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View Poll Results: Would you make sacrifices for the war effort?
I support the war in Iraq, and would support rationing 22 23.40%
I support the war in Iraq, but I'm not rationing 3 3.19%
I do not support the war, but would support rationing 20 21.28%
I do not support the war, nor would I support rationing 40 42.55%
Bill...you've got way too much time on your hands 9 9.57%
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:03 AM   #41 (permalink)
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So the best solution is to surrender, and fuck over the Iraqi people?
No, their "best solution" is to do everything in their power to destroy the US as a superpower, to betray our allies overseas, to enable the delayed conclusion of the Holocaust (different hands implementing it, but it's still the same idea), and to in general emasculate the American population. Why would they want to do this? Because their guy isn't in power after the 2000 and 2004 elections. They NEED things to go badly for the US for them to try and regain power here. Want an example? See Cindy Sheehan's recent statement about Palestine.


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Old 08-14-2005, 01:48 PM   #42 (permalink)
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How would YOU react to being told that you had to put half the contents of your grocery cart back, because it was needed for the boys in Iraq?
I don't really have a say in this, since my country dispatched a thousand or so soldiers there, and we're not likely to get engaged there for that long. I think however, that when things come to a situation where Americans will have to ration anything in order to support the war effort, they would have effectively lost the war by then. Something like that can only be an attempt to minimize imminent losses.
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Old 08-14-2005, 11:54 PM   #43 (permalink)
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No, their "best solution" is to do everything in their power to destroy the US as a superpower, to betray our allies overseas, to enable the delayed conclusion of the Holocaust (different hands implementing it, but it's still the same idea), and to in general emasculate the American population. Why would they want to do this? Because their guy isn't in power after the 2000 and 2004 elections. They NEED things to go badly for the US for them to try and regain power here. Want an example? See Cindy Sheehan's recent statement about Palestine.
Do you have any perception of how your criticism of Cindy Sheehan plays with those of us (the vast majority now, 60 plus percent) Americans who see her for who she is.....a mother who lost her son in a military invasion and occupation of a country that was not a threat to the US or to it's neighbors...despite endless declarations by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, et al to the contrary....all since discredited?

Cindy believes her son died for nothing. She is asking Bush to explain the "noble cause" that justifies other mothers going through the loss of their children in "his" war.

Take stock of how you look, daswig....criticizing a woman who is trying to deal with the belief that her son died for nothing. I see nothing that inclines me to disagree with Cindy's conclusion. I see you bashing her, instead of examining how pathetically wrong and misleading and incompetent the president you defend, has actually been....on fiscal policy, foreign policy, defense strategy, intelligence, and in his penchant to promote incompetence and discourage any challenges to his administration's decision making, let alone any dissent from ordinary Americans.

If it takes a comment about Ms. Sheehan like you made above, or this one you made on another thread, to bolster your undocumented arguments here, I take no pleasure in watching the level you lower yourself towards. If your cause is so fragile, that it requires verbal broadsides aimed at a grieving mother, and cannot stand the scrutiny of Americans who want truthful statements, candor, and defense of our civil liberty as a minimum, from our elected federal executive branch leaders, it is neither legitimate or American.
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Due to your post, is there really a need for me to do that? If you insist, I suggest you "take a gander" at sites such as Buzzflash, Democratic Underground, or just listen to Cindy Sheehan. Or, you can simply look at anybody who refers to the insurgents in Iraq as "freedom fighters".
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:26 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I am placing this in here as an explanation, and clarification of a policy in TFP that may be unclear. We are all allowed one persona in here....and the use of multiple accounts is not accepted. This has become an issue with us as of late and needs to be understood.
If you have a secondary account within these forums, please notify an Administrator or Moderator BEFORE we find it....it can be deleted without any problem whatsoever. If instead we find it in the upcoming weeks, we may need to ban all accounts tied to the user.

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Old 08-15-2005, 09:18 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Let me make another clarification here. As tecoyah said, let us know if you have two accounts here so we can get rid of your inactive one(s). You shouldn't feel a threat of being banned or anything if you signed up once, forgot the password (or never received the confirmation e-mail) and signed up again. It happens, and we can generally tell when that is what happened. You *should* be worried (and "come clean" now) if you have multiple personalities that you actively use on the forums or if you were once banned for treating other TFP members with disrespect and came back with a new username (as was uncovered in the most recent case).
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