Partial Birth Abortion Debate: Elphaba vs. Politicophile - Page 2 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

FoolThemAll · 08-17-2005, 07:11 PM

But if you believe that all people that are past birth shouldn't be killed (barring a sufficient justification), can't you just read his post and substitute "has a right not to be killed" for "shouldn't be killed"? If you can do that, then I don't see an insurmountable barrier between your two worldviews.

Fwiw, I do agree that it's an assumption, but I don't believe that it's wrong. But then, it's one of those untestable beliefs from the moral realm of "ought". There's not much point in arguing it, aside from a desire to clarify the position or opposing positions.

vautrain · 08-18-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by politicophile

Finally, we have this category of fetuses that will surely die after birth. So long as this category is narrowly defined as being “fetuses that will certainly die within a week of their birth”, or something along these lines, I wouldn’t object to it. But really, what harm is there in asking a mother to carry this sort of fetus to term?

Perhaps the harm lies in legislating that the mother *must* carry this sort of fetus to term. It is one thing for a mother to be confronted with the reality that her baby will die after birth, it is quite another thing to require that she continue to nurture that baby inside of her and experience the birthing process, without giving her the option to end the situation as quickly as she can.

08-17-2005, 07:11 PM	#41 (permalink)
FoolThemAll Walking is Still Honest Location: Seattle, WA	But if you believe that all people that are past birth shouldn't be killed (barring a sufficient justification), can't you just read his post and substitute "has a right not to be killed" for "shouldn't be killed"? If you can do that, then I don't see an insurmountable barrier between your two worldviews. Fwiw, I do agree that it's an assumption, but I don't believe that it's wrong. But then, it's one of those untestable beliefs from the moral realm of "ought". There's not much point in arguing it, aside from a desire to clarify the position or opposing positions. __________________ I wonder if we're stuck in Rome.