Locke7

Well, it's sort of politics. So much for seeing the thongs with the low cut jeans I guess...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/09/lo....ap/index.html

But seriously, first you have policians in SC debating pro life messages on license plates, now you have virginians worried about boxers showing. Just wondering if there is anything better you all could be doing with your tax payers time and money...

stevo

Thats why I don't live in either one of those states.

Superbelt

Thank God we've cured hunger, achieved eternal utopia and cured aids/cancer/etc.... already.

/obligatory

ShaniFaye

It pisses me off to see a guy wearing pants so you can see his underwear...there is no point in it....its not attractive at all and makes them look very sloppy.

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roachboy

huh?

there are alot of things that i do not like out there in "fashion land": mullets, those strange hairstyles that make folk look like poodle (short and curly on the top, longer on the bottom), photogrey glasses, vests with rhinestones, toby keith, mainstream country music in general--and in the bigger culture: tent revivals, televangelists, family programming, disney, mcdonalds...dave matthews...the list could go on and on...
i dont like these things--they sometimes even annoy me in an ignatius p reilly kinda way---but i dont imagine anyone trying to write--let alone try to pass---a law that would effectively criminalize any of these obvious taste breakdowns by fining people who indulge these trends amongst some white people.

it is funny that south carolina would focus on this particular mode of interacting with pants. or it could be funny, if it does not pass.

i wonder if it is some kind of andy-kauffman-style prank being played on the south carolina legislature.

or it could be something generated to counter the "urban lifestyle" that suburban and rural white people want to shelter their kids from.
i say the above because i ran into it with my brother, who asked me a couple years ago to not buy anything too baggy for his kids for xmas because they did not want them looking or becoming "too urban"---there was no mystery in what he meant. there is no mystery in what this legislation means either.

o brave new world
everyplace a new singapore.

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KMA-628

I can't say I support legislation on this. At what point do we overwhelm ourselves with new laws?

Side note: The part I find odd about this manner of dress is the history behind it. In the 60's, there was a problem with prisoners using their belts as weapons or as a means to commit suicide. So, belts became outlawed and were not issued when a prisoner checked into Motel 6. Since the pants didn't always fit well, many of the prisoners walked around with their pants hanging down.

It was then picked up by the local chicano (yes, I used that word on purpose) gangs as a way of showing support for their brothers incarcerated.

So....in other words.....this fashion statement is simply a way of emulating being a prisoner.

When I see kids dressing like this, I just look at them, shake my head and smile. They have no clue.

Just like I had no clue when I was a kid, dressed in jungle boots and a trenchcoat (long, long before Columbine).

ShaniFaye

Its virginia, not south carolina....and there are lots of clothes I wish they'd outlaw....capri pants for one.... but I think a law about it is silly, I just love to laugh at the people that think its cool to wear their pants that way( somehow my last sentance disappeard when I made my post)

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KMA-628

I dunno roach, I might support legislation against mullets.....

Mojo_PeiPei

blue law anyone (that's what their called right?)?

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roachboy

ah--virginia, not south carolina. ok then. all a function of reading a thread too quickly....

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flstf

This is beyond hilarious. How do these folks (delegates) go home and face their families and friends after voting such a stupid law in?

Let's see, it's against the law to display underpants and I guess underpants are any pants worn under an over garment. So if you take the over garment off the underpants become just a pair of shorts since they are no longer under anything. What kind of mental process must these delegates go through to pass this law?

jorgelito

Just wear a belt, or better yet, buy pants that fit. Badabingbadabang, and you're done. Is it that hard? Ah, fuggedaboutit!

Boo

I had a prison guard in AZ tell me that the "baggy pants with drawers showing" look actually came from the CA prison system. He said that when a guy got his "first date" that he would have to walk around baggy the next day or get his ass beat. Some kind of submissive gesture?

/rant - I am tired of getting handed food by a person with their cracks showing. Scratchin' and handling food is friggin nasty. If a person cannot dress appropriately for food service work then they need to find a new job.

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KMA-628

Boo -

sort of but not really, read my post above

ObieX

I would sit and try to comprehend this latest trend toward idiocy among our government officials, but i would rather not vomit right now.

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Kadath

I hope you mean Ignatius J. Reilly, because I love that book and it would be cool if you liked it enough to reference it in such an offhand way and not worry if people recognized it or not .

This is a stupid law that is a waste of time and taxpayer money.

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roachboy

yes--ignatius j.

"it is an offense against all taste and geometry."

i love the guy. i used to think i was him. then i met the dude.

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matthew330

The cutoff point defined as "exposure of underwear" is over-the-top. The longer this trend continues, the more extreme it gets which is how i'm sure this bit of legislation was born. Perhaps the cutoff point should be "if i can see 4 inches of your asscrack or base of your jonx" (both of which i've seen, though the "base of the penis" only once) then your getting fined.

Superbelt

That is exposure.
I should be able to walk around town in nothing but a pair of boxer shorts if I want to.
(I can, and I do)

This law is just wrong.

stevo

I guess the prison thing has some merit, but if my memory serves me correctly, people didn't always walk around with their pants down. If I recall, it appears to have all started after MC Hammer had a video come out where he was wearing real baggy jeans with the super-low inseam. After that, it appears that people started imitating his fasion, and since you couldn't just buy your normal pair of jeans with a really low crotch/inseam, than the only way to imitate that look is to wear larger sizes without a belt and sag the pants real low. Then over decade and a half (with prison influence) we ended up with fashion gone haywire.

Just my observation

KMA-628

i grew up in L.A. and the low-hung pants thing happened a long time before MC Hammer.

It was very big among the chicano gangs.

Unfortunately, it was one of those identifying traits that cops used to spot bangers. And we are talking the 70's here.

stevo

Well, to admit, I don't actually remember the fasion before '91, or maybe growing up in texas they are a little behind the times when it comes to that sort of thing. Prison it is.

jujueye

Exactly. No need to waste time with them now, eh? Too boring. Too technical or medical to worry about.

daswig

"lewd or indecent" being the operative word here...

BTW, y'all ever see somebody lose their pants while dressed in this manner? I have, repeatedly.

One thing you have to say about fat people wearing tight clothes....they don't fall off.

MSD

This law threatens my right to express the fact that I am, in fact, wearing underpants. It's my constitutional right to express that.

daswig

Nah, it doesn't. You just can't demonstrate that you're wearing underpants by having your ass hanging out in a "lewd" manner.

Either way, it's moot.