02-03-2005, 07:12 PM | #1 (permalink) | |
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The GOP gets caught in yet another media scam
First they buy off journalists with taxpayer money, now this. Looks like the GOP is guilty of all kinds of media scams that are even worse than the liberal reporting they like to call unethical. Good to see they have such a good grasp of ethics. Maybe they should actually start trying to be ethical and show that they have an ounce of principle. Fat chance of that.
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02-03-2005, 08:29 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Wow, pretty damning stuff you dug up there.
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02-03-2005, 08:48 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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...is the media usually very slow to pick up on right-wing conspiracies?
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02-03-2005, 10:02 PM | #6 (permalink) | |
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it's just sleezy. planting a friendly to disrupt journalists from asking tougher questions...it shows a contempt for the press. i happen to think it is imporant to know what's going on...
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02-03-2005, 10:11 PM | #7 (permalink) | |
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I say this is just the beginning. I'd be willing to bet this goes a lot further before something serious is put into action to stop it. Gannon should not ever be allowed to be connected with the media in any way, and the Talon should be yanked from news shelves and put into the trash can. If someone wants to hear biased crap, they have Fox News. |
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02-03-2005, 10:17 PM | #8 (permalink) |
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I think this is viable news. I mean if the GOP want to point out every single mistake the press they don't like makes and tries to make it a big issue, it is only fair to expose the GOP's "friendlies".
There can also be a lot said if any of these "friendlies" persuaded voters. Much the same as CBS's story. (Of course the latter was exposed BEFORE the election and the first exposed AFTER.) Either way, it shows an abuse of the press on both sides. The sad thing is this "war" shows how dirty ALL MEDIA is.
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02-04-2005, 12:22 AM | #9 (permalink) | |
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Isn't "freedom" (freedom of the press, freedom of expression etc) of the things the war is about? :-) Don't tell me you're thinking of supporting state control of the media?! Mr Mephisto |
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the same propagandists who brought us "campaign 2004", WMDs, and the unnecessary and unjustified war in Iraq. They cleansed HEW websites of safe sex information resources, and advocate the teaching of "intelligent Design" alongside what was formerly known as the theory of evolution, but is now modified by their affiliates into the new term "biological changes over time". Amusing if it wasn't so potentially damaging and revealing of their obsessive ideology and pettyness. They make an earnest argument that the earth is less than 10,000 years old, and that the Grand Canyon was created during the flood that floated Noah's Ark. Stay tuned for more absurdity from the most corrupting and criminal White House in history. Quote:
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02-04-2005, 04:42 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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This actually could be the part of something damning Lebell. This Jeff Gannon guy is being looked into as being an integral part of the revelation of Valerie Plame as an undercover CIA Agent.
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Soviet Russia under Stalin. When someone close to Stalin fell out of favor, his likeness would be removed from all official photos. I'm as nauseated as I am fascinated. People actually voted for another helping of these fascist thugs..............(you really think the Gannon "plant" is amusing, Lebell ?). Quote:
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02-04-2005, 06:47 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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cry cry cry. So what. They let someone in that is going to ask something other than, "So when is the president going to admit he was wrong?" I watch these press confrences and you've got this one guy and a dozen bush-haters. Whats the big deal? This is really a boring thread, next time find something dirtier about "bushco" so at least I can laugh instead of feeling sorry for such a feeble attempt.
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02-04-2005, 07:12 AM | #14 (permalink) |
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Like I said, this guy is part of the investigation over Valerie Plame.
He received top secret CIA memos from someone in the WH that identified Valerie as Joe Wilson's wife and as a CIA agent. And he revealed this in an interview with Wilson. And published it. That's so what. |
02-04-2005, 07:20 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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bush is the discourse of democracy what stalin was to the discourse of socialism.
the qualification added a bit later: it seems that in their paranoia about dissent--which extends to a hostility toward pluralism, the administration makes a mockery of the principles that it espouses. its handling of the press--which is in the great tradition of the reagan administration (who in turn got their inspiration from thatchers degrading control over the british press during the falklands war)--is a good microcosm for this. the parallel bush/stalin has to do only with their corrosive effect on the ideological language that they use to legitimate themselves and their actions--a language that is opposed at almost every meanignful level to what they are in fact doing on the ground. i make the parallel as a function of the work i have done in my real life on the gradual implosion of marxism through the post world war 2 period: the long grinding away of referentiality ion the language of marxism came to a head with the hungarian revolution--in france, this lines up with a collapse of a whole tradition of worker mobilization at the factory-floor level.... you have a parallel process going on with the discourse of democracy now. which is in many ways the worst possible outcome for the abiilty of folk in oppressive situations to imagine something other than what exists.
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02-04-2005, 11:10 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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watching some of the diehard republican supporters really offends my independent sensibilities. sooner or later all of the 'so whats', redirections, and 'baseless liberal' remarks are going to backfire on you. Will you then raise the MSM flag when you're outed as 'out of touch with reality?'
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02-04-2005, 02:03 PM | #18 (permalink) |
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I didn't have any one person in particular that I was thinking specifically of when I wrote the post.
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02-04-2005, 03:38 PM | #19 (permalink) | |
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http://www.gopusa.com/news/2003/octo...nterview.shtml
Link 1 is where Jeff Gannon does his thing, helping to out a CIA agent. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...¬Found=true Quote:
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02-10-2005, 03:11 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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Looks like it got a little too hot for the Pawn:
Inside Politics White House reporter's credentials questioned Man worked for Web site owned by Republican activist Thursday, February 10, 2005 Posted: 9:04 AM EST (1404 GMT) James Guckert reported from the White House under the name "Jeff Gannon." WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A New York congresswoman asked the White House to explain Wednesday why a man who worked for a news Web site owned by a GOP activist was able to obtain White House press credentials under an assumed name. James Guckert, who reported from the White House for the Talon News Service under the name "Jeff Gannon," announced he was quitting the business "in consideration of the welfare of me and my family." "Because of the attention being paid to me, I find it is no longer possible to effectively be a reporter for Talon News," he said in a statement posted Wednesday on his Web site. In a letter to President Bush, Rep. Louise Slaughter, a Democrat, questioned why Guckert routinely received credentials for White House news briefings. Slaughter linked Guckert's case to recent revelations that two conservative columnists who supported Bush administration policies had received government money. "It appears that 'Mr. Gannon's' presence in the White House press corps was merely as a tool of propaganda for your administration," Slaughter wrote. The White House had no comment. The House and Senate press galleries declined Guckert's request for credentials in 2003. Julie Davis, chairwoman of the Senate press gallery's executive committee, said Guckert could not demonstrate any separation between Talon News and GOPUSA, a Republican consulting group. Both organizations are run by Bobby Eberle, a Texas GOP activist. Many Talon News articles also appeared as news releases on the GOPUSA Web site, said Davis, a reporter for The Sun newspaper of Baltimore, Maryland. In a statement on the Talon Web site, Eberle referred to "Gannon's" resignation and said, "I understand and support Jeff's decision." Slaughter said she was writing at the request of senior editors of the Niagara Falls Reporter in her Buffalo-area district. The newspaper ran an open letter questioning "how a partisan political organization and an individual with no credentials as a reporter -- and apparently operating under an assumed name -- landed a coveted spot in the White House press corps." During White House press secretary Scott McClellan's regular briefings, Guckert routinely offered administration-friendly questions. He became the focus of liberal and media Web sites after Bush called on him during his news conference January 26. Guckert asked Bush how he could deal with Democratic congressional leaders "who seem to have divorced themselves from reality." Guckert told The Washington Post in an article published Tuesday that his political leanings were "admittedly" conservative "and that point of view is not represented in the briefing room at all." "Call me partisan, fine, but don't let my colleagues off the hook," he said. "They're partisan too, but they don't admit it." Slaughter said ideology had nothing to do with the dispute. "It doesn't matter whether he's a conservative reporter. The question is, is he a reporter?" she said. She told CNN that she believed the White House gave Guckert credentials to get a friendly questioner into the room during White House briefings. "I don't want to be fed propaganda from this White House," she said. "I don't want people to be paid to give it to me. We deserve the facts, or this democracy will suffer." Last month, conservative commentator Armstrong Williams apologized for not disclosing that his company had received $240,000 from a public relations agency hired by the Department of Education to promote Bush's No Child Left Behind education overhaul. Syndicated columnist Maggie Gallagher also apologized to her readers for not disclosing a $21,500 contract with the Department of Health and Human Services to help create materials used to promote Bush's $300 million initiative encouraging marriage to strengthen families. At the January 26 news conference, Bush said he disapproved of such practices and wanted them to stop. "There needs to be independence," he said. "All our Cabinet secretaries must realize that we will not be paying ... commentators to advance our agenda. Our agenda ought to be able to stand on its own two feet," Bush said. (Full story) HHS later disclosed that a third conservative columnist, Mike McManus, had received $10,000 to promote Bush's marriage initiative, according to an Associated Press report. His weekly column appears in about 50 newspapers. Several congressional Democrats have introduced a bill to stop what they termed taxpayer-funded "covert propaganda campaigns" that violate a provision included in annual appropriation acts since 1951. Under the new bill, dubbed the Federal Propaganda Prohibition Act of 2005, the prohibition on propaganda would become a permanent part of federal law. Federal agencies would also have to notify Congress about public relations, advertising and polling contracts, and the funding sources of all federally funded public relations materials would have to be disclosed. http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/...ouse.reporter/
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02-10-2005, 03:30 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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very interesting. sad, but very interesting. and sadly, probably nothing will come of this.
hopefully people will wake up and pull the wool from over their eyes.
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I don't know how true this is but I've read things about this guy being involved with gay porn and prostitution. I'll see what I can find out about it. |
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02-10-2005, 03:57 PM | #25 (permalink) | |
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Here it is:
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02-14-2005, 03:12 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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And finally.....the crowning achievement of our journalistic hero.
Seriously....you gotta go to this link...it is hilarious all by itself.....regardless of context Link NSFW http://web.archive.org/web/200107010....com/x/usmcpt/ Monday, February 14, 2005 A man called Jeff by John in DC - 2/14/2005 11:26:00 PM WARNING: A number of the links in this story are to x-rated photographs, and some of those might prove shocking to some people. Please exercise your own discretion when clicking. (And, as you read, please forgive the necessary typos - I'm going for rock-solid facts, rather than spelling.) WOLF BLITZER: Because one of the things, as you know, that were said is that you had some sexually explicit Web sites that you were working on. I don't understand what that is, but maybe you could explain that. JEFF GANNON: Well, several years ago, before I came to Washington, I had registered various domain names for a private client. I was doing Web site development. Those sites were never hosted. There's -- nothing ever went up on them. And the client went on to do something else. - CNN, 2/10/05 Site 1 The Web sites reflects the era in which it was built. A simple black background, white text, lots of kitschy images and bad puns. The theme is decidedly military. The logo at the top is borrowed from the US Marine Corps, an eagle standing atop an anchor. The letters USMCPT run across the logo, written in the colors of the flag. Below the strange acronym are four words: “Personal Trainer, Bodyguard, Escort.” Above it stands a muscular and headless man in black military boots, white socks, buck naked. In 1999, Paul Leddy, a Web designer and photographer, says he received an email from a man named Jeff from Wilmington, Delaware. Jeff wanted Paul to build him a new Web site for his business. Paul accepted the job, provided Jeff mailed him a check with half the money up front (Jeff had not provided a last name, and Paul wanted to make sure he was for real). Jeff sent the check, it cleared, and Paul built the site and launched it online for Jeff. Paul didn’t think about Jeff much until last week when he heard about a breaking scandal involving a man named Jeff who owned several military escort service Web addresses. “I saw the name Jeff Gannon, knew our Jeff, saw the militarystud.com Web address, and thought ‘hmmm, everything was military, that sounds like Jeff who we did the site for.’” Paul searched the Internet WhoIs director for militarystud.com and saw that the owner was Bedrock Corp of Wilmington, Delaware. “That’s definitely him,” Paul said. (Paul and a second source both recall Jeff paying with a check in the name of Bedrock Corp. The name stuck in their heads at the time because they asked Jeff why “Bedrock”? He replied something about the Flintstones, they recall.) Paul then went and checked his files. He found five invoices to Jeff from August 31, 1999 to March 30, 2000. (The file properties say they were created on those dates by Paul Leddy.)nsfw
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02-14-2005, 06:43 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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Yeah. This is why the story matters:
The White House gave a press pass to someone from a bogus right-wing "news" source (which actually came into existence only days before Gannon got his press pass) so that he could throw up softball questions to Bush or his press secretary when the real reporters were getting to tough. This guy was not only using a fake name, and had no press credentials, but also "wrote" his pieces by more or less copying verbatim the language used in Administration pamphlets, letters, and press briefings. This guy, however, is much more than just that. He is also the operative of at least two websites in which he prostitutes himself to men for money. More importantly, though, than the fact that an uncredentialled fake male prostitute news reporter was a White House plant during press briefings is the fact that this schmuck was given top-secret information on Valerie Plame's identity as a CIA operative by someone within the Administration, an act President George Bush the first calls treason. That is why this story matters. Edit - I almost forgot to mention that Gannon is also a tax evader. Tsk, tsk.
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02-14-2005, 09:06 PM | #28 (permalink) |
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pan6467 pretty much nailed it. Both political parties try to influence the press and, through them, the inclinations of voters. Compounded upon that is the prejudice which every journalist brings to the table...hopefully, no one here is naive enough to believe that journalists aren't coloring, liberally or conservatively, the facts to the point of sometimes profoundly massaging them.
Still, as Mephisto points out, we can't have it any other way. The lesson is a simple one...be critical of journalists, as they are trying to persuade us to adopt their views of facts or issues. This is a case in point, and one which makes the Bushies look pretty stupid. OT: loved your post, tecoyah; the nsfw link was a hoot |
02-15-2005, 09:30 AM | #29 (permalink) |
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Why this story matters is the way this Administration is basically dishonest about the press and the public; it pays commentators, it admits phony journalists who they know will provide supportive questions to their agenda, they ban all but supporters to public speeches by the President, and they produce phony news reports.
I don't care that GannonGurket was a gay prostitute. I care that this is only the tip of the iceberg. Who else is the Administration funding? And, by the way, why the heck is the executive spending so much on PR firms? In a January report, the U.S. House Committee on Government Reform found that federal agencies spent more than $250 million on contracts with PR agencies between 2001 and 2004 – nearly twice as much as the $128 million that Clinton spent between 1997 and 2001. Why did not only the Bush administration but the Clinton administration spend money on PR firms? I don't want my $$$ going to push any administration's policies. We have whole departments that do that already!!! There. I feel better.
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02-15-2005, 09:44 AM | #30 (permalink) |
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...And don't forget this man, which all his lies and illegal actions was given access to secret government documents that identified a CIA operative.
It's very important to find out which individual(s) were so evil and treasonous to do something like that. |
02-15-2005, 04:47 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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Way to direct a thread...........................Kerry as usual
One has to wonder if there is a subject in this world, which you cannot tie into Mr. Kerry
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02-15-2005, 06:24 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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Perhaps I'm just an idiot, but does the fact that John Kerry protested the Vietnam War mean that Gannon WASN'T a plagiarizing, uncredentialed male prostitute plant for a fake news organization who was granted access to the White House Press Corps for the express purpose of giving Bush and/or McClellan easy questions?
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the connection. Perhaps someone could explain it to me.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/19/po...rtner=homepage interesting development in that the administration appears to systematically produce fake news and feed it to their lackies in television--in a way this is the logical extension of pooling the press in high reagan period style--a practice that the bushites have brought to a fine pitch. behind this lay an interesting conception of popular opinion for a group that expends so much discursive energy talking about "democracy": public opinion is a problem that requires management--producing things like fake news stories that can simply be broadcast as if administration propaganda was fact at any level is just one part of their management strategy. i am not sure that it is possible not to see a contradiction in this. maybe bush supporters do not see one--in the gap that seperates the notion of democratic practice from the authoritarian manipulation of information. the logic of bushworld appears increasingly to be that of a dictatorship within which everyone is required to talk about democracy.
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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus...418539,00.html this is a more wide-ranging piece from the guardian on the information discussed above.
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02-20-2005, 06:16 AM | #37 (permalink) | |
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As it is....that was my NICE way of telling you to increase the content in your reply's.
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02-26-2005, 08:56 PM | #38 (permalink) |
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In a room of committed anti-bush ideologues, why not plant a friendly.
It is politics is it not. Did not the administration answer the questions everyone asked.... You will never convince me that the media didn't carry Bill Clintons water. I'd take jeff gannon over that damned Helen Thomas any day.
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02-26-2005, 09:26 PM | #39 (permalink) |
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There would be so much credibility in someone saying: "this shit has got to stop, enough is enough, it's serious and it matters and it's sick and wrong."
The trick is it has to come from both sides of the aisle, no matter who is doing the shit. Saying: "the other side did it too, there is no problem" just perpetuates the inanity. Not to mention the insanity. But everyone is just too partisen. More fun that way, i guess... edit: just for clarity, i don't exempt myself from that observation. but i sure as hell try more every day to live to values, not position. Last edited by boatin; 02-26-2005 at 09:31 PM.. |
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Jeff Gannon - No journalism education, No publishing credentials, lied about his background and even his NAME on FBI security clearance applications. I guess we all have our own priorities, huh? Very telling.
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