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maypo · 10-14-2004, 09:43 AM

If you have heard about Bill O'Reilly's being sued for sexual harassment this article from the daily news can only seem funny. Yes, I know he is innocent until proven guilty, none-the-less, I present, for your entertainment:

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written by Bill O'Reilly NY DAILY NEWS:
Taste for the notorious
is coarsening America

Perhaps the most profound change in American society over the past 40 years is how bad behavior is processed. When I grew up in the 1960s, bad boys and girls were usually held accountable for their misbehavior, punishment was almost a lock and very few scandals resulted in profit participation.
Today, all that has changed. In the latest of a long line of rewards for questionable activity, Monica Lewinsky has been hired to host a prime-time television program called "Mr. Personality." Since Ms. Lewinsky has no TV experience, one can assume that the only reason she is doing "Mr. Personality" is that ... well, you know what I mean.

Lewinsky's employment follows a long list of people who have profited from notorious incidents. G. Gordon Liddy has a syndicated radio show, Oliver North works for Fox News, Winona Ryder is doing commercials fresh off her shoplifting conviction, Robert Downey Jr. got a role on "Ally McBeal" right out of drug rehab. The list goes on and on.

Paula Jones, who made a federal case out of sexual-harassment allegations against then-Gov. Bill Clinton, was paid six figures for showing her figure in Penthouse magazine. After seeing the pictures, I wanted to sue for sexual harassment. Jessica Hahn and Tonya Harding also made good money in the aftermath of their scandals. Many rappers will tell you the more they are busted by the police, the bigger their recording contracts. R. Kelly has a hit album after being charged with sexually abusing a minor.

The message here is that American society really doesn't care how anyone behaves and that some in corporate America will reward tawdry behavior all day long. Believe me, this situation is not lost on children. They see Lewinsky scoring in the media, and they know exactly how the play was made. Surely, TV programs starring Anna Nicole Smith and Lewinsky send a signal that the U.S.A. is a place where hard work doesn't really matter if you are ready to marry an 89-year-old guy or exceed your internship job description.

While it is true that we Americans love a story of redemption, contrition is not needed to capitalize on scandal. Few of the infamous ever admit wrongdoing, and it is certainly not required by those who hire them. No, the only thing that is required is a famous name, and it really doesn't matter how you become famous, just as long as you are.

You would think that NOW - the National Organization for Women - would be outraged over Lewinsky's "Mr. Personality" gig. Aren't there any women in America who are actually qualified to host a reality program of this kind, women who actually worked for years developing communications skills? Where is NOW on this?

In fact, where is anybody on this? I know these TV programs are culturally insignificant, but there is a larger issue here. Isn't there?

Unfortunately, very few of us care about the issue. Americans are numb to tawdry actions because we see so much of them, and the celebration of boorishness has now been elevated to a level the decadent Roman emperors would have enjoyed. The result is that America unquestionably has become a coarse society, a country where crude can be very profitable. And we're not talking oil here.

File the hiring of the infamous under freedom of expression. The Constitution gives us all the right to profit from our mistakes. And never has the business of bad behavior been better.

and lest you think this is some mild locker banter check out the actual documents at the smoking gun. I credit Bill with a great imagination

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from http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...3mackris1.html

O'Reilly Hit With Sex Harass Suit
Female Fox coworker details lewd behavior of cable TV star

OCTOBER 13--Hours after Bill O'Reilly accused her of a multimillion dollar shakedown attempt, a female Fox News producer fired back at the TV star today, filing a lawsuit claiming that he subjected her to repeated instances of sexual harassment and spoke often, and explicitly, to her about phone sex, vibrators, threesomes, masturbation, the loss of his virginity, and sexual fantasies. Below you'll find a copy of Andrea Mackris's complaint, an incredible page-turner that quotes O'Reilly, 55, on all sorts of lewd matters. Based on the extensive quotations cited in the complaint, it appears a safe bet that Mackris, 33, recorded some of O'Reilly's more steamy soliloquies. For example, we direct you to his Caribbean shower fantasies. While we suggest reading the entire document, TSG will point you to interesting sections on a Thailand sex show, Al Franken, and the climax of one August 2004 phone conversation.

kutulu · 10-14-2004, 09:48 AM

During the August 2004 phone conversation O'Riely supposedly was jerking off and using a vibrator on himself.

Bill O'Reilly is a big blubbering vagina.

Lebell · 10-14-2004, 10:02 AM

Is there a serious thread here?

Certainly those few sexual antics listed are tame as far as TFP goes.

That the woman apparently tried to extort money out of Fox doesn't come accross too well.

OpieCunningham · 10-14-2004, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lebell

That the woman apparently tried to extort money out of Fox doesn't come accross too well.

Hahah! That the man accusing her of extortion also happens to be the man she accuses of sexual harrasment doesn't give much weight to the extortion accusation.

According to sexual harrassment laws, if O'Reilly sexually harrassed her, Fox is held responsible.

The extortion claim is patently nonsense. The only way to prove that is to prove that the woman knowingly filed a false sexual harrassment claim. That would be exceptionally hard to prove, impossible if they have nothing to base it on other than their word.

Lebell · 10-14-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OpieCunningham

Hahah! That the man accusing her of extortion also happens to be the man she accuses of sexual harrasment doesn't give much weight to the extortion accusation.

This isn't a flame, but I'm a fairly bright guy and half the time, I can't figure out what you are saying or what you say makes no sense to me.

*shrug*

OpieCunningham · 10-14-2004, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lebell

This isn't a flame, but I'm a fairly bright guy and half the time, I can't figure out what you are saying or what you say makes no sense to me.

*shrug*

This isn't a flame, but maybe you over estimate your brightness?

*shrug*

Kalibah · 10-14-2004, 10:42 AM

I watch the no spin zone each night. I dont think bill o rielly talks about vibrators to anyone... he just doesnt seem like that kinda guy...

its always funny to watch the viewer email though- half of it says hes kissing Kerrys ass, other half says hes a zombie to the president.... like the day before his interview with the preisdent aired he got email saying it was biased - i dont envy him- but I HONESTLY BELIEVE HE IS ONE OF THE MORE FAIR PERSONS ON TV
he has no problem pointing out mistakes the president makes, but he is clearly republican... but not mindlessly so

but again... i dont see him as the kinda guy talking about vibrators et al
but I didnt see R.Kelly pissing on people either

Lebell · 10-14-2004, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OpieCunningham

This isn't a flame, but maybe you over estimate your brightness?

*shrug*

I don't know. I got a 29 on my college ACTs, which puts me in the top 2%.

I currently have a 3.7 average in my Comp Sci degree.

I have a 4.0 average in my math minor.

I've managed an analytical xray section and put together training programs and technical presentations for my management team.

So I would have to say the evidence indicates, "no".

Kalibah · 10-14-2004, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lebell

I don't know. I got a 29 on my college ACTs, which puts me in the top 2%.

I currently have a 3.7 average in my Comp Sci degree.

I have a 4.0 average in my math minor.

I've managed an analytical xray section and put together training programs and technical presentations for my management team.

So I would have to say the evidence indicates, "no".

Ultimate Test:
so are you liberal or conservative

Lebell · 10-14-2004, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalibah

Ultimate Test:
so are you liberal or conservative

Neither.

I am more libertarian than anything, with a healthy dose of reality to balance out their more looney ideas.

theusername · 10-14-2004, 10:56 AM

*Looks at thread, contemplates crying

Most of these posts are petty and try for humour. That isn't the goal when in the politics forum, if this thread was serious it'd belong here, but rather it belongs in humor in my opinion.

Kalibah · 10-14-2004, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lebell

Neither.

I am more libertarian than anything, with a healthy dose of reality to balance out their more looney ideas.

That passes in my book

OpieCunningham · 10-14-2004, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lebell

I don't know. I got a 29 on my college ACTs, which puts me in the top 2%.

I currently have a 3.7 average in my Comp Sci degree.

I have a 4.0 average in my math minor.

I've managed an analytical xray section and put together training programs and technical presentations for my management team.

So I would have to say the evidence indicates, "no".

Wow. Impressive. And how much money do you expect to make when you get out of school?

I guess I'm just smarter than you and I should simplify my responses to your posts.

Should I post my credentials to "prove" it?

filtherton · 10-14-2004, 11:28 AM

My cat's breath smells like cat food!

Averett · 10-14-2004, 11:30 AM

Wow, this got really far off track. I'm suprised that Lebell went with the flame type talk and flame inducing posts.

My cat's breath smells like cat food too

sixate · 10-14-2004, 12:08 PM

This is so far off topic I don't know where to begin.... So it ends now.

Lets all stop the childish sarcasm.

Lebell · 10-14-2004, 09:06 PM

My appologies to Opie and the Forum.

I know better, but I let my temper get the best of me.

10-14-2004, 10:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Is there a serious thread here? Certainly those few sexual antics listed are tame as far as TFP goes. That the woman apparently tried to extort money out of Fox doesn't come accross too well. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

10-14-2004, 10:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
theusername Insane	*Looks at thread, contemplates crying Most of these posts are petty and try for humour. That isn't the goal when in the politics forum, if this thread was serious it'd belong here, but rather it belongs in humor in my opinion. __________________ ?

10-14-2004, 11:30 AM	#15 (permalink)
Averett Is In Love Location: I'm workin' on it	Wow, this got really far off track. I'm suprised that Lebell went with the flame type talk and flame inducing posts. My cat's breath smells like cat food too __________________ Absence is to love what wind is to fire. It extinguishes the small, it enkindles the great.

10-14-2004, 09:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	My appologies to Opie and the Forum. I know better, but I let my temper get the best of me. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

10-14-2004, 09:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	During the August 2004 phone conversation O'Riely supposedly was jerking off and using a vibrator on himself. Bill O'Reilly is a big blubbering vagina.

10-14-2004, 10:42 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kalibah Insane Location: Padded Playhouse	I watch the no spin zone each night. I dont think bill o rielly talks about vibrators to anyone... he just doesnt seem like that kinda guy... its always funny to watch the viewer email though- half of it says hes kissing Kerrys ass, other half says hes a zombie to the president.... like the day before his interview with the preisdent aired he got email saying it was biased - i dont envy him- but I HONESTLY BELIEVE HE IS ONE OF THE MORE FAIR PERSONS ON TV he has no problem pointing out mistakes the president makes, but he is clearly republican... but not mindlessly so but again... i dont see him as the kinda guy talking about vibrators et al but I didnt see R.Kelly pissing on people either

10-14-2004, 11:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	My cat's breath smells like cat food!

10-14-2004, 12:08 PM	#16 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	This is so far off topic I don't know where to begin.... So it ends now. Lets all stop the childish sarcasm.