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cthulu23 · 10-05-2004, 05:06 PM

Does anyone care enough to comment?

docbungle · 10-05-2004, 05:08 PM

He (Cheney) totally ignored the opening question...

mattevil · 10-05-2004, 05:09 PM

pretty early and even right now.

cthulu23 · 10-05-2004, 05:10 PM

Cheney certainly seems more confident then Bush was, although that is hardly a revelation.

Locobot · 10-05-2004, 05:10 PM

Waiting for Edwards to pull the Halliburton ace from his sleeve....

docbungle · 10-05-2004, 05:11 PM

Cheney diverting already...

cthulu23 · 10-05-2004, 05:12 PM

It's strange to see a debate between professional apologists...

Locobot · 10-05-2004, 05:13 PM

Bush and Cheney are really attacking the "global test" statement from Kerry, don't they understand that there IS a court of world opinion, to quote Stevenson, and that the U.S. is failing in that court.

cthulu23 · 10-05-2004, 05:18 PM

Hehe, the actions of the US in Central and South America during the 80's were hardly shining examples of humanitarianism.

cthulu23 · 10-05-2004, 05:20 PM

They are both better sparrers then their "better halves."

Edit: I guess my perception comes from their relative lack of rhetoric...they are sniping on the details.

docbungle · 10-05-2004, 05:21 PM

Oh no...it's the flip-flop card!

Rdr4evr · 10-05-2004, 05:22 PM

Cheney will have a heart attack almost any minute. He is a very angry man.

mosha · 10-05-2004, 05:22 PM

I think Cheney is kicking some ass early in this debate

cthulu23 · 10-05-2004, 05:26 PM

Ahh, here comes the truth at last...Cheney also wanted to dissolve many of the same weapons systems that Kerry did.

It looks like it's gonna be "flip-flop" all the way through.

Rdr4evr · 10-05-2004, 05:26 PM

OMG!! Get off the f'n flip flop bs...Nobody "flip flops" more than Bush....Pathetic.

docbungle · 10-05-2004, 05:27 PM

Cheney repeating himself just like Bush....Edwards keeps calling Cheney liar just like Kerry did

It's like a mini-me of the first debate (I guess that's to be expected)

Ruse · 10-05-2004, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docbungle

Cheney repeating himself just like Bush....Edwards keeps calling Cheney liar just like Kerry did

It's like a mini-me of the first debate (I guess that's to be expected)

That pretty much sums it up... seems pretty close still but Im waiting for more flip-flop references and defences

Locobot · 10-05-2004, 05:31 PM

errrr, Cheney just said our coalition in the current Iraq war was equal to the 1991 gulf war coalition? What's he smoking? Poland is not Germany or France or Spain or etc.

MSD · 10-05-2004, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdr4evr

OMG!! Get off the f'n flip flop bs...Nobody "flip flops" more than Bush....Pathetic.

Not to mention that a normal person who doesn't "flip flop" is consdiered a stubborn asshole.

off topic: The more Cheney talks, the more constipated he looks.

docbungle · 10-05-2004, 05:33 PM

The moderator herself keeps stumbling over her words....kind of annoying

Rdr4evr · 10-05-2004, 05:38 PM

Lets ignore Iraq. Lets ignore no WMD's. Lets ignore 200 billion. Lets ignore no Osama. Lets ignore no connection between 9/11 and Iraq. The only thing that is important here is that Kerry is inconsistent, therefore vote Bush again.

JumpinJesus · 10-05-2004, 05:39 PM

Here it comes, Haliburton, Haliburton, Haliburton.

Superbelt · 10-05-2004, 05:40 PM

There we go, bring out the Cheney flip-flops
Call him a hypocrite!

Rdr4evr · 10-05-2004, 05:40 PM

"Well thats all you got", LOL!

docbungle · 10-05-2004, 05:42 PM

LOL!!! Cheney accusing Edwards of a smokescreen? Oh, the hypocricy!

archer2371 · 10-05-2004, 05:45 PM

So is Edwards suggesting we invade Iran? I just want a clarification about that. However, we do have two able launching platforms to strike quickly and furiously in a pincer move upon Iran...

cthulu23 · 10-05-2004, 05:45 PM

The Bush ticket shouldn't be accusing anyone of being absent...don't we all need to clear a little brush occasionally?

Locobot · 10-05-2004, 05:45 PM

Should ask Sen. Leahy what it's like to meet Cheney on the Senate floor.

pan6467 · 10-05-2004, 05:46 PM

Where Bush and Kerry seemed to be civil and actually respect each other... Cheney looks like he wants to kill Edwards. He keeps with these "you dumbass snot nosed kid" looks. And Edwards looks like he wants to say "bring it Dick".

I don't know these 2 men are showing me they are both hotheads (Cheney by far moreso).

Makes me glad it's Kerry and Bush and not Cheney and Edwards.

My take Cheney is a very greedy, angry man who does not like to be questioned and is constantly on the attack. Edwards is a little laidback homey type that is prepared to defend what he believes in.

IMHO ONLY..... IT's like watching a self righteous Archie Bunker debating Sheriff Andy Taylor. No matter how deep a hole Cheney/Archie refuses to accept any responsibility for anything. And Edwards/Andy is trying a down home folksy approach but can't get to a point and hammer it down.

Think Kerry and Bush need to switch running mates to match their style better.

Kerry/Cheney vs. Bush/Edwards

Esen · 10-05-2004, 05:46 PM

Cheney is owning this debate, he keeps putting Edwards in his place. It is so funny to see Edwards keep trying to interupt.

Edwards theatrics are amazing. He must think he is in the court room.
He comes off so fake.

docbungle · 10-05-2004, 05:46 PM

Look on cheney's face "oh shit....I voted for that?"

docbungle · 10-05-2004, 05:49 PM

Cheney keeps ignoring the questions asked him.....and just randomly speaking

Superbelt · 10-05-2004, 05:50 PM

Good stuff from Edwards
voting for evil > not voting
This debate is...

Locobot · 10-05-2004, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer2371

So is Edwards suggesting we invade Iran? I just want a clarification about that. However, we do have two able launching platforms to strike quickly and furiously in a pincer move upon Iran...

Realistically there is no way we could win a conventional war against Iran by ourselves. Considering the nuclear capabilities of Iran you can pretty much kiss Jerusalem goodbye if we invade Iran.

Ruse · 10-05-2004, 05:50 PM

Apparently everything "speaks for itself" when it comes to Cheney, I dont see how that is winning the debate

JumpinJesus · 10-05-2004, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locobot

Realistically there is no way we could win a conventional war against Iran by ourselves. Considering the nuclear capabilities of Iran you can pretty much kiss Jerusalem goodbye if we invade Iran.

But with Poland on our side...

docbungle · 10-05-2004, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumpinJesus

But with Poland on our side...

thats funny. I mean Really Funny.

cthulu23 · 10-05-2004, 05:59 PM

Yep...taxes are about percentages of income, not gross amounts.

Neither one of these guys wants to back gay marriage.

Edit: Would marriage by any other name smell as sweet?

JumpinJesus · 10-05-2004, 06:01 PM

Cheney's daughter: Thanks for stepping up for family, Dad.

JumpinJesus · 10-05-2004, 06:02 PM

answer the trial lawyer question, Dick.

10-05-2004, 05:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	Veep Debate thread Does anyone care enough to comment?

10-05-2004, 05:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	He (Cheney) totally ignored the opening question... __________________ Bad Luck City

10-05-2004, 05:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	Cheney diverting already... __________________ Bad Luck City

10-05-2004, 05:20 PM	#10 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	They are both better sparrers then their "better halves." Edit: I guess my perception comes from their relative lack of rhetoric...they are sniping on the details. Last edited by cthulu23; 10-05-2004 at 05:22 PM..

10-05-2004, 05:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	Oh no...it's the flip-flop card! __________________ Bad Luck City

10-05-2004, 05:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
mattevil Addict Location: Virginia	pretty early and even right now.

10-05-2004, 05:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	Cheney certainly seems more confident then Bush was, although that is hardly a revelation.

10-05-2004, 05:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Locobot is awesome!	Waiting for Edwards to pull the Halliburton ace from his sleeve....

10-05-2004, 05:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	It's strange to see a debate between professional apologists...

10-05-2004, 05:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
Locobot is awesome!	Bush and Cheney are really attacking the "global test" statement from Kerry, don't they understand that there IS a court of world opinion, to quote Stevenson, and that the U.S. is failing in that court.

10-05-2004, 05:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	Hehe, the actions of the US in Central and South America during the 80's were hardly shining examples of humanitarianism.

10-05-2004, 05:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	Cheney will have a heart attack almost any minute. He is a very angry man.

10-05-2004, 05:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
mosha Crazy Location: Htown, NJ	I think Cheney is kicking some ass early in this debate

10-05-2004, 05:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	Ahh, here comes the truth at last...Cheney also wanted to dissolve many of the same weapons systems that Kerry did. It looks like it's gonna be "flip-flop" all the way through.

10-05-2004, 05:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	OMG!! Get off the f'n flip flop bs...Nobody "flip flops" more than Bush....Pathetic.

10-05-2004, 05:39 PM	#22 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	Here it comes, Haliburton, Haliburton, Haliburton. __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

10-05-2004, 05:45 PM	#26 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	So is Edwards suggesting we invade Iran? I just want a clarification about that. However, we do have two able launching platforms to strike quickly and furiously in a pincer move upon Iran... __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

10-05-2004, 05:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	Cheney repeating himself just like Bush....Edwards keeps calling Cheney liar just like Kerry did It's like a mini-me of the first debate (I guess that's to be expected) __________________ Bad Luck City

10-05-2004, 05:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
Locobot is awesome!	errrr, Cheney just said our coalition in the current Iraq war was equal to the 1991 gulf war coalition? What's he smoking? Poland is not Germany or France or Spain or etc.

10-05-2004, 05:33 PM	#20 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	The moderator herself keeps stumbling over her words....kind of annoying __________________ Bad Luck City

10-05-2004, 05:38 PM	#21 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	Lets ignore Iraq. Lets ignore no WMD's. Lets ignore 200 billion. Lets ignore no Osama. Lets ignore no connection between 9/11 and Iraq. The only thing that is important here is that Kerry is inconsistent, therefore vote Bush again.

10-05-2004, 05:40 PM	#23 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	There we go, bring out the Cheney flip-flops Call him a hypocrite!

10-05-2004, 05:40 PM	#24 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	"Well thats all you got", LOL!

10-05-2004, 05:42 PM	#25 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	LOL!!! Cheney accusing Edwards of a smokescreen? Oh, the hypocricy! __________________ Bad Luck City

10-05-2004, 05:45 PM	#27 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	The Bush ticket shouldn't be accusing anyone of being absent...don't we all need to clear a little brush occasionally?

10-05-2004, 05:45 PM	#28 (permalink)
Locobot is awesome!	Should ask Sen. Leahy what it's like to meet Cheney on the Senate floor.

10-05-2004, 05:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Where Bush and Kerry seemed to be civil and actually respect each other... Cheney looks like he wants to kill Edwards. He keeps with these "you dumbass snot nosed kid" looks. And Edwards looks like he wants to say "bring it Dick". I don't know these 2 men are showing me they are both hotheads (Cheney by far moreso). Makes me glad it's Kerry and Bush and not Cheney and Edwards. My take Cheney is a very greedy, angry man who does not like to be questioned and is constantly on the attack. Edwards is a little laidback homey type that is prepared to defend what he believes in. IMHO ONLY..... IT's like watching a self righteous Archie Bunker debating Sheriff Andy Taylor. No matter how deep a hole Cheney/Archie refuses to accept any responsibility for anything. And Edwards/Andy is trying a down home folksy approach but can't get to a point and hammer it down. Think Kerry and Bush need to switch running mates to match their style better. Kerry/Cheney vs. Bush/Edwards __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

10-05-2004, 05:46 PM	#30 (permalink)
Esen TFPer formaly known as Chauncey Location: North East	Cheney is owning this debate, he keeps putting Edwards in his place. It is so funny to see Edwards keep trying to interupt. Edwards theatrics are amazing. He must think he is in the court room. He comes off so fake. __________________ ~Esen What is everyone doing in my room?

10-05-2004, 05:46 PM	#31 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	Look on cheney's face "oh shit....I voted for that?" __________________ Bad Luck City

10-05-2004, 05:49 PM	#32 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	Cheney keeps ignoring the questions asked him.....and just randomly speaking __________________ Bad Luck City

10-05-2004, 05:50 PM	#33 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Good stuff from Edwards voting for evil > not voting This debate is...

10-05-2004, 05:50 PM	#35 (permalink)
Ruse Crazy	Apparently everything "speaks for itself" when it comes to Cheney, I dont see how that is winning the debate

10-05-2004, 05:59 PM	#38 (permalink)
cthulu23 Banned	Yep...taxes are about percentages of income, not gross amounts. Neither one of these guys wants to back gay marriage. Edit: Would marriage by any other name smell as sweet?

10-05-2004, 06:01 PM	#39 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	Cheney's daughter: Thanks for stepping up for family, Dad. __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses

10-05-2004, 06:02 PM	#40 (permalink)
JumpinJesus Junkie Location: Chicago	answer the trial lawyer question, Dick. __________________ "I can normally tell how intelligent a man is by how stupid he thinks I am" - Cormac McCarthy, All The Pretty Horses