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cthulu23 10-05-2004 05:06 PM

Veep Debate thread
 
Does anyone care enough to comment?

docbungle 10-05-2004 05:08 PM

He (Cheney) totally ignored the opening question...

mattevil 10-05-2004 05:09 PM

pretty early and even right now.

cthulu23 10-05-2004 05:10 PM

Cheney certainly seems more confident then Bush was, although that is hardly a revelation.

Locobot 10-05-2004 05:10 PM

Waiting for Edwards to pull the Halliburton ace from his sleeve....

docbungle 10-05-2004 05:11 PM

Cheney diverting already...

cthulu23 10-05-2004 05:12 PM

It's strange to see a debate between professional apologists...

Locobot 10-05-2004 05:13 PM

Bush and Cheney are really attacking the "global test" statement from Kerry, don't they understand that there IS a court of world opinion, to quote Stevenson, and that the U.S. is failing in that court.

cthulu23 10-05-2004 05:18 PM

Hehe, the actions of the US in Central and South America during the 80's were hardly shining examples of humanitarianism.

cthulu23 10-05-2004 05:20 PM

They are both better sparrers then their "better halves."

Edit: I guess my perception comes from their relative lack of rhetoric...they are sniping on the details.

docbungle 10-05-2004 05:21 PM

Oh no...it's the flip-flop card!

Rdr4evr 10-05-2004 05:22 PM

Cheney will have a heart attack almost any minute. He is a very angry man.

mosha 10-05-2004 05:22 PM

I think Cheney is kicking some ass early in this debate

cthulu23 10-05-2004 05:26 PM

Ahh, here comes the truth at last...Cheney also wanted to dissolve many of the same weapons systems that Kerry did.

It looks like it's gonna be "flip-flop" all the way through.

Rdr4evr 10-05-2004 05:26 PM

OMG!! Get off the f'n flip flop bs...Nobody "flip flops" more than Bush....Pathetic.

docbungle 10-05-2004 05:27 PM

Cheney repeating himself just like Bush....Edwards keeps calling Cheney liar just like Kerry did

It's like a mini-me of the first debate (I guess that's to be expected)

Ruse 10-05-2004 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docbungle
Cheney repeating himself just like Bush....Edwards keeps calling Cheney liar just like Kerry did

It's like a mini-me of the first debate (I guess that's to be expected)

That pretty much sums it up... seems pretty close still but Im waiting for more flip-flop references and defences

Locobot 10-05-2004 05:31 PM

errrr, Cheney just said our coalition in the current Iraq war was equal to the 1991 gulf war coalition? What's he smoking? Poland is not Germany or France or Spain or etc.

MSD 10-05-2004 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdr4evr
OMG!! Get off the f'n flip flop bs...Nobody "flip flops" more than Bush....Pathetic.

Not to mention that a normal person who doesn't "flip flop" is consdiered a stubborn asshole.

off topic: The more Cheney talks, the more constipated he looks.

docbungle 10-05-2004 05:33 PM

The moderator herself keeps stumbling over her words....kind of annoying

Rdr4evr 10-05-2004 05:38 PM

Lets ignore Iraq. Lets ignore no WMD's. Lets ignore 200 billion. Lets ignore no Osama. Lets ignore no connection between 9/11 and Iraq. The only thing that is important here is that Kerry is inconsistent, therefore vote Bush again.

JumpinJesus 10-05-2004 05:39 PM

Here it comes, Haliburton, Haliburton, Haliburton.

Superbelt 10-05-2004 05:40 PM

There we go, bring out the Cheney flip-flops
Call him a hypocrite!

Rdr4evr 10-05-2004 05:40 PM

"Well thats all you got", LOL!

docbungle 10-05-2004 05:42 PM

LOL!!! Cheney accusing Edwards of a smokescreen? Oh, the hypocricy!

archer2371 10-05-2004 05:45 PM

So is Edwards suggesting we invade Iran? I just want a clarification about that. However, we do have two able launching platforms to strike quickly and furiously in a pincer move upon Iran...

cthulu23 10-05-2004 05:45 PM

The Bush ticket shouldn't be accusing anyone of being absent...don't we all need to clear a little brush occasionally?

Locobot 10-05-2004 05:45 PM

Should ask Sen. Leahy what it's like to meet Cheney on the Senate floor.

pan6467 10-05-2004 05:46 PM

Where Bush and Kerry seemed to be civil and actually respect each other... Cheney looks like he wants to kill Edwards. He keeps with these "you dumbass snot nosed kid" looks. And Edwards looks like he wants to say "bring it Dick".

I don't know these 2 men are showing me they are both hotheads (Cheney by far moreso).

Makes me glad it's Kerry and Bush and not Cheney and Edwards.

My take Cheney is a very greedy, angry man who does not like to be questioned and is constantly on the attack. Edwards is a little laidback homey type that is prepared to defend what he believes in.

IMHO ONLY..... IT's like watching a self righteous Archie Bunker debating Sheriff Andy Taylor. No matter how deep a hole Cheney/Archie refuses to accept any responsibility for anything. And Edwards/Andy is trying a down home folksy approach but can't get to a point and hammer it down.

Think Kerry and Bush need to switch running mates to match their style better.

Kerry/Cheney vs. Bush/Edwards

Esen 10-05-2004 05:46 PM

Cheney is owning this debate, he keeps putting Edwards in his place. It is so funny to see Edwards keep trying to interupt.

Edwards theatrics are amazing. He must think he is in the court room.
He comes off so fake.

docbungle 10-05-2004 05:46 PM

Look on cheney's face "oh shit....I voted for that?"

docbungle 10-05-2004 05:49 PM

Cheney keeps ignoring the questions asked him.....and just randomly speaking

Superbelt 10-05-2004 05:50 PM

Good stuff from Edwards
voting for evil > not voting
This debate is...
http://humour.blague.free.fr/page/ph...nde/sniper.jpg

Locobot 10-05-2004 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archer2371
So is Edwards suggesting we invade Iran? I just want a clarification about that. However, we do have two able launching platforms to strike quickly and furiously in a pincer move upon Iran...


Realistically there is no way we could win a conventional war against Iran by ourselves. Considering the nuclear capabilities of Iran you can pretty much kiss Jerusalem goodbye if we invade Iran.

Ruse 10-05-2004 05:50 PM

Apparently everything "speaks for itself" when it comes to Cheney, I dont see how that is winning the debate

JumpinJesus 10-05-2004 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locobot
Realistically there is no way we could win a conventional war against Iran by ourselves. Considering the nuclear capabilities of Iran you can pretty much kiss Jerusalem goodbye if we invade Iran.


But with Poland on our side...

docbungle 10-05-2004 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumpinJesus
But with Poland on our side...


thats funny. I mean Really Funny.

cthulu23 10-05-2004 05:59 PM

Yep...taxes are about percentages of income, not gross amounts.

Neither one of these guys wants to back gay marriage.

Edit: Would marriage by any other name smell as sweet?

JumpinJesus 10-05-2004 06:01 PM

Cheney's daughter: Thanks for stepping up for family, Dad.

JumpinJesus 10-05-2004 06:02 PM

answer the trial lawyer question, Dick.


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