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Old 09-30-2004, 05:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Live debate thread

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First thoughts on Bush and Kerry. Bush skirted the second question and didn't answer it. And it took a whole 10 seconds to mention flip flop (not by name). Kerry needs to look at the camera not at the person leading the debate.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Bush has better eye contact but is also looking at jim a lot
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Notice how they both keep glancing off screen? It makes me think there are some guys with towels over their shoulders shouting "Now jab on Iraq!" "That's it, hit him on weapons inspections!" "You got him, baby!"
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm glad they are filming the reactions by other canidates occasionally.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They both look all "hot and bothered" when the other guy is speaking.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Bush keeps trying to be snide and insulting. That could burn him a lot.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Heh, looks like Kerry needs to clarify his position on Iraq authorization. Went from calling it a mistake and bringing up his service in Vietnam in one sentence to saying it was the right thing to do.

Perhaps it's not what he meant, but he really missed the ball on this one, way he spoke definently looked like he called going to Iraq bad, rather then how we are fighting it.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"You forgot poland!" doesn't change the point Bush.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:38 PM   #10 (permalink)
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This debate is making me very, very angry at my President.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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He has a start every rebuttle with a insult policy
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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could kerry shake his head more emphatically?
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Kerry has been consistent on Iraq...it's interesting that Bush keeps asserting that Kerry has been inconsistent without offering an example of said inconsistency.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Kerry is plugging his website, ithink hes trying to get a free iPod
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:48 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Bush needs to have more rebuttles. He has a small group that he keeps using.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Kerry's plan on iraq seems to be made of things that are already being implemented (summits, increased funding, more troops, UN involvement) by the President.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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What about the fact they they're shooting it to make Bush look as tall as Kerry?

Also, Fox appears to be on a delay.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:51 PM   #18 (permalink)
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haha thats funny
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:51 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Bush does keep harping on the fact that Kerry keeps changing his position. We get it already. He also keeps trying to convince us that being the president is hard work. Of course it is.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:52 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Yes, Allawi is a brave, brave man considering how dangerous it is to be Prime Minister in a country like Iraq.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
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They have to keep their heads at the same position on the screen. They need to cut off the podiums.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:54 PM   #22 (permalink)
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"The enemy attacked us" iraq did not attack the US
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:54 PM   #23 (permalink)
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"How do you tell the troops 'Wrong war, wrong time?'" Wtf? He has said this three times already.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:55 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Do you think there are any psychological associative implications about the colors (dark blue/purple for bush, lighter blue for kerry) behind President Bush and Senator Kerry? Things like that can play a role in the way people percieve both candidates.
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:57 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Anyone else notice Bush keeps getting the one minute extensions?
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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What are you referring to, willravel? Ties? Because Kerry's tie is red.
Maybe the color under their podium in the shot?
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:58 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Do you think there are any psychological associative implications about the colors (dark blue/purple for bush, lighter blue for kerry) behind President Bush and Senator Kerry? Things like that can play a role in the way people percieve both candidates.

i'm not seeing these colors your talking about? Where are these colors at?
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Old 09-30-2004, 05:59 PM   #28 (permalink)
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On C-Span they are constantly showing the candidates on a split screen. I just switched to another channel and realized that others aren't seeing that.
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:01 PM   #29 (permalink)
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abc has a split screen but the colors are the same. I think...
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:01 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Even on C-Span they make Bush seem as tall. WTF is that?! Bush is shorter than Kerry! Deal with it.
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:03 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Kerry looks pretty smug and confident. Almost as if he knows that he may be scoring more points. Who do ya'll think is ahead so far? I think Kerry.
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:04 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Kerry atm. Bush seems to be backed into a corner with only 3 weapons that are getting duller every time he uses them.
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:05 PM   #33 (permalink)
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i thought fox news was controlling the only cameras being used by all networks....
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:05 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Even on C-Span they make Bush seem as tall. WTF is that?! Bush is shorter than Kerry! Deal with it.
No network wants to be accused of influencing the election by showing Bush in an inferior position.
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:07 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I say Kerry is ahead, but I'm definitely biased, as are probably 90% (or more) of the posters here.
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:08 PM   #36 (permalink)
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All the networks are using the same video feed. Who is controlling the feed I don't know.
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:10 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Sactions on Iran are from the CLINTON administration. He should have said instead of just alluding to it.
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:11 PM   #38 (permalink)
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is there a live webcast of this debate?
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:12 PM   #39 (permalink)
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All the networks are using the same video feed. Who is controlling the feed I don't know.
On the radio this morning I heard them say it was fox and that they were straying from the rules of only keeping the camera on the person speaking, hence the split screen
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Old 09-30-2004, 06:12 PM   #40 (permalink)
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The question on the sanctions is should they have been modified/updated in light of recent developments.
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