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stevie667 · 04-23-2004, 01:27 AM

Since we seem to have a lot of attention towards the american side of politics at the moment, i thought i'd bring things home for those of us on this side of the pond.

now, for the unenlightened, the EU is accepting 10 new member states from east europe (poland, hungary e.t.c.) on may 1st. This will give them all the rights and privilages of a member state, including free travel inside EU boarders, rights to settle and a multitude of other things.
The EU constitution was written back when there where only 6 member states, and hasn't been updated since to any major degree.
The planned consitution will effectivly centralise power for all states in brussels and change things in ways that i can't particulary remember because i drank too much last night.
The British government made a U-turn in policy monday gone by saying that it would in fact hold a referendum to decide if it would accept the constitution and abide by it (only to be told if we voted no, we'd have to take another one).

The question is, what are your views on the constitution, and if your in Britain, which way do you plan to vote on the referendum being held to decide if britain will endorse it?

tecoyah · 04-23-2004, 04:05 AM

As I am in the U.S. , I cant vote but wanted to get your poll started. Given a choice, I would have voted yes, as the E.U. (in my opinion) should set the example for the world that the U.S. has failed to do. That bieng worldwide cooperation, and global community.

seretogis · 04-23-2004, 04:27 AM

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Originally posted by tecoyah
As I am in the U.S. , I cant vote but wanted to get your poll started. Given a choice, I would have voted yes, as the E.U. (in my opinion) should set the example for the world that the U.S. has failed to do. That bieng worldwide cooperation, and global community.

It has?

Mephisto2 · 04-23-2004, 05:07 AM

Yes it has.

I vote yes. Still an EU citizen, even though I live down under!

Mr Mephisto

irateplatypus · 04-23-2004, 10:23 AM

i'm on the left side of the pond, so i'll not vote in the poll.

but were i a british citizen, i would choose "no".

View Poll Results: How do you intend to vote on the referendum?
Yes	4	50.00%
No	1	12.50%
Not sure	0	0%
Refer-what-now?	3	37.50%
Voters: 8. You may not vote on this poll

04-23-2004, 01:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	EU constitution (and the referendum for the brits) Since we seem to have a lot of attention towards the american side of politics at the moment, i thought i'd bring things home for those of us on this side of the pond. now, for the unenlightened, the EU is accepting 10 new member states from east europe (poland, hungary e.t.c.) on may 1st. This will give them all the rights and privilages of a member state, including free travel inside EU boarders, rights to settle and a multitude of other things. The EU constitution was written back when there where only 6 member states, and hasn't been updated since to any major degree. The planned consitution will effectivly centralise power for all states in brussels and change things in ways that i can't particulary remember because i drank too much last night. The British government made a U-turn in policy monday gone by saying that it would in fact hold a referendum to decide if it would accept the constitution and abide by it (only to be told if we voted no, we'd have to take another one). The question is, what are your views on the constitution, and if your in Britain, which way do you plan to vote on the referendum being held to decide if britain will endorse it?

04-23-2004, 04:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	As I am in the U.S. , I cant vote but wanted to get your poll started. Given a choice, I would have voted yes, as the E.U. (in my opinion) should set the example for the world that the U.S. has failed to do. That bieng worldwide cooperation, and global community. __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

04-23-2004, 10:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	i'm on the left side of the pond, so i'll not vote in the poll. but were i a british citizen, i would choose "no". __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

04-23-2004, 05:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mephisto2 Junkie	Yes it has. I vote yes. Still an EU citizen, even though I live down under! Mr Mephisto