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tehblaed · 09-28-2003, 07:30 AM

Who am I?

* I attacked and took over two countries.
* I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury.
* I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
* I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
* I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
* In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history.
* I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by any president in US history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.
* I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
* I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
* I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
* I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV.
* I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history.
* I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
* I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
* I cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
* I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind
* I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
* I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.
* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).
* I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
* I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.
* I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
* I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.
* I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of Congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
* I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
* I withdrew from the International Criminal Court.
* I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.
* I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
* The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEOof Enron Corporation).
*I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
* I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.
* I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and
world history).
* I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
* I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for gov't contracts.
* I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.
* In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war.
* I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down, record unemployment being the most recent achievement..
* I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas drug conviction has been erased and is not available).
* I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
* I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

edit: I didn't write this, I took it from my friend's aim profile. I'm not claiming that what said is entirely true or false in any sense, but I have read through it and didn't find anything remarkably false. If there's a problem with anything, tell me, and I'll take it off the list.

lurkette · 09-28-2003, 07:34 AM

I'm no fan of GWB but I think you could make just such a laundry list of every president's failures and fuckups - personal and presidential.

rogue49 · 09-28-2003, 07:49 AM

I don't know, I've seen lists like this before for every president.
This one is quite substantial and large.

He must be proud.

Whether contextually accurate or not
I would prefer a new administration.

Peryn · 09-28-2003, 01:13 PM

Quote:

* I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.

That list is full of items like this. There is no facts behind this. How do you prove a presidency secretive? Its total opinion and no fact. Then how would you show its the most secretive in our history. You cant. This list throws around things being the worst in our history is totally false. Most of the crap isn't a record. He throws that term around as if he has done any research to back it up. How many years did FDR do without people knowing he couldn't walk on his own? Something like 10 years (cant remembr off the top of my head). Thats less secretive than not answering a few questions that dont deserve an answer somehow i guess....

Anyway, you could easily make a list that long or longer of other presidents and you could make it sound impressive by tackin on "...most in history..." or "Its a record...really. dont look it up" on the end of that. Then if you stick in a bunch of opinions and state them as records it would grow even longer. Some of that stuff is true, yes. But its mostly a bunch of BS "records". Also one of those says he has acheived the record unempolyment. Note : i dont ahve actualy numbers for unempolyment in front of me now. BUT, Do we really have more people unemployed than we did during the depression? Were there really more women working then than there are now? Do we really have hords of people begging in the streets because they cant get a job and feed there family? People flocking across teh country to find work? I guess we really are in a bad situation. Its a miracle i can afford this computer and the internet with how bad unemployment and the economy is...

I guess my point is you can make a list of nyone. And that list inparticular is heavily biased, opinionated, and even innacurate and false.

Downtownat10 · 09-28-2003, 01:28 PM

It is true that you can make a list like this for any President, but the one comment above inre: making the presidency most secretive and unaccountable, Kenndy actually kept far more secrets than Bush has. However, he was, at times, remarkably accountable. Also, look back through history books for pictures of FDR in a wheelchair. Chances are, you will find VERY few of them. He did not like to be photographed or seen in public in his wheelchair, for fear that it would show him as being weak. If he were around today and had his entire life documented on TV, he would never have been President just on image alone.

Also, as far as Bush being the worst "in history" for some of these, bear in mind that everything has been "super-sized," if you will, as time goes on. It would be impossible for all but a few Presidents to spend in the billions or trillions. Also, some of the programs that have finally had the final nail in their coffins have been on a steadily declining path. If they had all been in tip-top shape from the beginning, they might have lasted another 10 years or so.

On, and for the record, I do NOT support Bush, but I try to look at everything from every angle before pointing the finger.

Food Eater Lad · 09-28-2003, 01:32 PM

In late August, the AFL-CIO issued a press release titled "U.S. Workers Struggle in Worst Job Slump Since Great Depression." They said this with a straight face even though, at that time, the unemployment rate was 6.2%. In the Depression it was above 20% and in the early 1980s, at the height of union membership, unemployment was 10.8%. --Brian S. Wesbury

This just shows one of the lies in the above list. Remember proper ettiquette folks, if it bashes Bush, it doesnt have to be true.

Downtownat10 · 09-28-2003, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Food Eater Lad
In late August, the AFL-CIO issued a press release titled "U.S. Workers Struggle in Worst Job Slump Since Great Depression." They said this with a straight face even though, at that time, the unemployment rate was 6.2%. In the Depression it was above 20% and in the early 1980s, at the height of union membership, unemployment was 10.8%. --Brian S. Wesbury

Well, you must remember that it was the worst job slump since the depression when considering how many people were unemployed, rather than the percentage.

Really, a lot of these statements seem like an outline for a new first-person Michael Moore flick.

Food Eater Lad · 09-28-2003, 04:24 PM

Really I thought that the unemployment Rate was based on percentages. I am sure that Germany's 18 % unemployment rate is better cause their population is lower?

reconmike · 09-28-2003, 07:28 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tehblaed
[B] Who am I?

* I attacked and took over two countries.
Bravo.
* I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury.
Brankrupt? Hey atleast my tax money was spent.
* I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
Get a job.
* I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
Bigger then the crash? How about Black friday?
* I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
A felon that recieves the death penalty should be fried.
* I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
* In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history.
* I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by any president in US history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.
The papers are full of jobs.
* I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
* see get a job
* I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
Get a job
* I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
* I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV.
* I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history.
* I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
* I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
* I cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
My benifits havent changed one bit.
* I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind
* I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
Most were signed by non-backbone having dems.
* I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.
* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).
Well if they can make money they know how to do business.
* I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
Jersey has a balanced budget, so make it 49
* I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.
* I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
Sometimes you have to say fuck-it, and do what is best.
* I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
* I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.
And appoint libya, great move UN.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.
* I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of Congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
* I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
About time!!!
* I withdrew from the International Criminal Court.
See (about time)
* I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
What POW's, as per the convention.
* I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.
* I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
Must be a whole hell of a lot of supporters.
* The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEOof Enron Corporation).
See whitewater.
*I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
Good, always good to see how the public feels.
* I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
Kidding right, an aircraft was flown into the pentagon.
* I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.
* I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and
world history).
Check out Rome,
* I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
* I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for gov't contracts.
* I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.
* In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war.
* I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down, record unemployment being the most recent achievement..
* I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas drug conviction has been erased and is not available).
* I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
* I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
[
I have grown tired of this crap, maybe I'll add more some other time.
(working on Slick Willies at this moment)

Conclamo Ludus · 09-29-2003, 08:08 AM

Doesn't it take a little more than an executive order to amend the Constitution? Maybe I'm not reading it correctly but that sounds like quite the overstatement.

Mojo_PeiPei · 09-29-2003, 09:31 AM

I thought it took a 2/3's vote by congress, the President can veto laws/bills, but I don't think he can nullify or amend them (God I hope I am right).

Quote:

"The Amendment Process"

There are essentially two ways spelled out in the Constitution for how it can be amended. One has never been used.

The first method is for a bill to pass both halves of the legislature, by a two-thirds majority in each. Once the bill has passed both houses, it goes on to the states. This is the route taken by all current amendments. Because of some long outstanding amendments, such as the 27th, Congress will normally put a time limit (typically seven years) for the bill to be approved as an amendment (for example, see the 21st and 22nd).

The second method prescribed is for a Constitutional Convention to be called by two-thirds of the legislatures of the States, and for that Convention to propose one or more amendments. These amendments are then sent to the states to be approved by three-fourths of the legislatures or conventions. This route has never been taken, and there is discussion in political science circles about just how such a convention would be convened, and what kind of changes it would bring about.

Regardless of which of the two proposal routes is taken, the amendment must be approved by three-fourths of states. The amendment as passed may specify whether the bill must be passed by the state legislatures or by a state convention. See the Ratification Convention Page for a discussion of the make up of a convention. Amendments are sent to the legislatures of the states by default. Only one amendment, the 21st, specified a convention.

So if you were a reasonable human being you would bitch at the congress, and not Bush for amending the constitution.

Dibbler · 09-29-2003, 09:50 AM

Is the answer Bill Clinton? I see a lot of the items were taking place during Billy's reign so he should at least get credit for them.

Conclamo Ludus · 09-29-2003, 09:53 AM

My God! I had no idea we were so close to civil war.

The_Dude · 09-29-2003, 10:52 AM

Reconmike, i like it how you went through the list and responded to some of them, while skipping over many.

does that mean that you are not going to counter those statements, meaning they could actually be true?

and "get[ting] a job" is not going to solve all the problems.

09-28-2003, 07:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
tehblaed Insane Location: land of the merry	Do you like riddles? Who am I? * I attacked and took over two countries. * I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury. * I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history. * I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period. * I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market. * I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner. * I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record. * In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history. * After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history. * I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by any president in US history. * In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs. * I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history. * I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. * I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history. * I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV. * I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history. * I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed. * I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have. * I cut healthcare benefits for war veterans. * I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind * I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history. * I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history. * Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her). * I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt. * I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world. * I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community. * I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States. * I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history. * I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission. * I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board. * I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of Congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history. * I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. * I withdrew from the International Criminal Court. * I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions. * I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections. * I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations. * The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEOof Enron Corporation). I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history. I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1) * I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government. * I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history). * I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability. * I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea. * I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. * I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for gov't contracts. * I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. * In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war. * I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down, record unemployment being the most recent achievement.. * I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas drug conviction has been erased and is not available). * I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war. * I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use. * All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. * All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. * All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. * Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. edit: I didn't write this, I took it from my friend's aim profile. I'm not claiming that what said is entirely true or false in any sense, but I have read through it and didn't find anything remarkably false. If there's a problem with anything, tell me, and I'll take it off the list. Last edited by tehblaed; 09-28-2003 at 07:56 AM..

09-28-2003, 07:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
lurkette My future is coming on Moderator Emeritus Location: east of the sun and west of the moon	I'm no fan of GWB but I think you could make just such a laundry list of every president's failures and fuckups - personal and presidential. __________________ "If ten million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing." - Anatole France

09-28-2003, 01:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Downtownat10 Crazy Location: A Fortified Compound, East Coast	It is true that you can make a list like this for any President, but the one comment above inre: making the presidency most secretive and unaccountable, Kenndy actually kept far more secrets than Bush has. However, he was, at times, remarkably accountable. Also, look back through history books for pictures of FDR in a wheelchair. Chances are, you will find VERY few of them. He did not like to be photographed or seen in public in his wheelchair, for fear that it would show him as being weak. If he were around today and had his entire life documented on TV, he would never have been President just on image alone. Also, as far as Bush being the worst "in history" for some of these, bear in mind that everything has been "super-sized," if you will, as time goes on. It would be impossible for all but a few Presidents to spend in the billions or trillions. Also, some of the programs that have finally had the final nail in their coffins have been on a steadily declining path. If they had all been in tip-top shape from the beginning, they might have lasted another 10 years or so. On, and for the record, I do NOT support Bush, but I try to look at everything from every angle before pointing the finger. __________________ Heh. Oops. Sorry about that one...

09-28-2003, 07:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
reconmike Thank You Jesus Location: Twilight Zone	[QUOTE]Originally posted by tehblaed [B] Who am I? * I attacked and took over two countries. Bravo. * I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury. Brankrupt? Hey atleast my tax money was spent. * I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history. * I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period. Get a job. * I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market. Bigger then the crash? How about Black friday? * I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner. A felon that recieves the death penalty should be fried. * I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record. * In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history. * After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history. * I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by any president in US history. * In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs. The papers are full of jobs. * I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history. * see get a job * I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. Get a job * I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history. * I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV. * I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history. * I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed. * I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have. * I cut healthcare benefits for war veterans. My benifits havent changed one bit. * I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind * I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history. Most were signed by non-backbone having dems. * I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history. * Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleezza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her). Well if they can make money they know how to do business. * I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt. Jersey has a balanced budget, so make it 49 * I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world. * I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community. Sometimes you have to say fuck-it, and do what is best. * I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States. * I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history. * I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission. And appoint libya, great move UN. * I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board. * I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of Congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history. * I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. About time!!! * I withdrew from the International Criminal Court. See (about time) * I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions. What POW's, as per the convention. * I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections. * I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations. Must be a whole hell of a lot of supporters. * The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEOof Enron Corporation). See whitewater. I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history. Good, always good to see how the public feels. I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1) Kidding right, an aircraft was flown into the pentagon. * I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government. * I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history). Check out Rome, * I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability. * I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea. * I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. * I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for gov't contracts. * I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. * In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war. * I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down, record unemployment being the most recent achievement.. * I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas drug conviction has been erased and is not available). * I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war. * I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use. * All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. * All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. * All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. * Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. [ I have grown tired of this crap, maybe I'll add more some other time. (working on Slick Willies at this moment) __________________ Where is Darwin when ya need him?

09-29-2003, 08:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
Conclamo Ludus Modern Man Location: West Michigan	Doesn't it take a little more than an executive order to amend the Constitution? Maybe I'm not reading it correctly but that sounds like quite the overstatement. __________________ Lord, have mercy on my wicked soul I wouldn't mistreat you baby, for my weight in gold. -Son House, Death Letter Blues

09-28-2003, 07:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
rogue49 Loser	I don't know, I've seen lists like this before for every president. This one is quite substantial and large. He must be proud. Whether contextually accurate or not I would prefer a new administration.

09-28-2003, 01:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	In late August, the AFL-CIO issued a press release titled "U.S. Workers Struggle in Worst Job Slump Since Great Depression." They said this with a straight face even though, at that time, the unemployment rate was 6.2%. In the Depression it was above 20% and in the early 1980s, at the height of union membership, unemployment was 10.8%. --Brian S. Wesbury This just shows one of the lies in the above list. Remember proper ettiquette folks, if it bashes Bush, it doesnt have to be true.

09-28-2003, 04:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Food Eater Lad Banned	Really I thought that the unemployment Rate was based on percentages. I am sure that Germany's 18 % unemployment rate is better cause their population is lower?

09-29-2003, 09:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
Dibbler Psycho Location: Initech, Iowa	Is the answer Bill Clinton? I see a lot of the items were taking place during Billy's reign so he should at least get credit for them.

09-29-2003, 09:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
Conclamo Ludus Modern Man Location: West Michigan	My God! I had no idea we were so close to civil war. __________________ Lord, have mercy on my wicked soul I wouldn't mistreat you baby, for my weight in gold. -Son House, Death Letter Blues

09-29-2003, 10:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	Reconmike, i like it how you went through the list and responded to some of them, while skipping over many. does that mean that you are not going to counter those statements, meaning they could actually be true? and "get[ting] a job" is not going to solve all the problems. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal