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prosequence · 08-26-2003, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Markaz
He goes to jail, I pay more tax to keep him there. No abortion = more jackoffs in jail = more tax. And I hate how much my taxes are!

I always fantasise about people getting responsible and making sure they don't raise "jackoff" kids, or have sex before they are ready to have kids for that matter... but you do have a bit of a point.... kinda ties into my original post about capital punishment.

Thagrastay · 09-01-2003, 03:36 PM

Most christian churches do NOT believe in Original Sin. Most churches teach that Sin is a choice. Recreational sex results in pregnancy quite often. The child of the sex is not responsible for its own creation and as a human should be treated as such. After all, if it is not a baby, it's not a pregnancy.
The consequences of Rape and Incest are not the fault of the child and adoption is as viable a choice as death. We have already ended the lives of millions of children, and for what reason? What is our purpose in this? Eugenics? Recreation? Convenience? Frivolity?
Beethoven was the child of a rape.
The government regulates seat belts and such because there are lobbies that pressure elected officials and very little opposition by others. If you disagree with the use of seat belyts, start lobbying.
The government has been at a stalemate in the question of
To equalize human and animal life is ridiculous. To demand that the taking of a life is acceptable because that life might be one of misery or lack contribution is nothing less than savage. If that is the case, anyone who does not contribute to society must be eliminated and we should let animals roam the streets as cattle do in India because they are of an equal worth to humans.
It is impossible for anyone to be so naiive except by choice.

Bobdoler · 09-01-2003, 04:19 PM

You know, I dont even think males should be allowed to have an opinion on the subject(me being one)

Let the women work it out amongst themselves, they're the ones that have to deal with the consequences.

prosequence · 09-03-2003, 02:16 PM

Physically yes, mentally no. I do recognise the fact not everyone wants the responsibility to make that choice, I guess it's a personal thing.

Theresa · 09-04-2003, 01:05 AM

Some of my views

I disagree with EVERY man who says he shouldn't have a choice in the matter. You just wait until you are paying child support for a child you didn't want the woman to have, then you might have wanted a say in it.
Unfortunately though, men never will be able to have a say because it IS always the womans choice. Women should listen to a mans opinion but more often than not, women don't.

I am pro choice. What is the big deal with us feeling that the human life is so damned unexpendable? We have this divine right to life yet we take it away from every other species without relent.

If you are pro life - would you deem a tape worm in your stomach dispensible? You may think I am being ridiculous but an unwanted child is equally parasitic. Women sometimes die during child birth and if not, their bodies are left distorted.

I am also opposed to capitol punishment. It's too expensive and you may say that "justice shouldn't have a price" but those millions of dollars that are wasted on those trials could have gone to the local police force which might have aided in keeping that POS from murdering whoever he did. Taxes in cities with criminals on death row are very high.

If you do some research you will find that capitol punishment is not a deterant to crime. There is no correlation whatsoever. I would post a link here but the information was taken away with my other computer.

There are lots of suicides in prison. David Hammer was quoted in saying that he couldn't wait for his execution. Why give the criminal what he wants? Those men could be living in shame and guilt.

Many don't know that when you are dying, oxygen goes to the right temporal lobe in the brain. This causes a feeling of extacy and floating. Our bodies are designed to make death a pleasant experience.

The government still operates under religious influence here in America and we are just in a hurry to get our criminals off to hell "where they belong".

Capitol punishment is a religious practice. Have you ever heard of "An eye for an eye."

Separation of Church and state? I'd like to think so. . .

Theresa · 09-04-2003, 01:09 AM

I apologize in advance for posting in exhibition.

Bush decreased a lot of subsidies that went to schools to teach about safe sex and increased subsidies to teach about abstinence. Personally I don't feel like this is right, kids are going to have sex you might as well inform them on how to do it more safely.

filtherton · 09-06-2003, 11:21 AM

I think killin kids is alright in the context of "fighting the war on terror"
Right to life until you're actually alive, then to hell with you.
I think the pro-life movement should actually be called the pro-birth movement. It seems that beyond making sure every mush sack of futurehuman gets its day, the pro-life don't really have much concern for the "life" aspect of, well, life.

wannabenakid247 · 09-06-2003, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by j8ear
what country is that?

Is abortion really slaughtering an innocent child? (title/sentence extrapolated).

-bear

I agree bear its a difficult question. Its not even developed. Surely the mother should have a say while its only 1 inch big?

prosequence · 09-06-2003, 07:58 PM

Let's say a woman is pregnant and wants the child, the male doesn't. The male finds a way to get the woman to abort (physicall means / herbal / chemical ) and does so. The woman loses the child.
Can he be charged? What with? Should he be charged?

Theresa · 09-10-2003, 02:45 AM

He could be charged if he resorted to physical violence. If he was secretely giving a woman herbs or chemicals as not to be trapped into paying child support if he doesn't want the kid, more power to him, in my opinion.

XenuHubbard · 09-11-2003, 08:51 AM

Prosequence;

This happened a year ago.
My brother-in-law's wife works in a kindergarten. She had a miscarriage after one of the children ran into her.

My question is:
What should we charge the child with?
Manslaughter, perhaps?
What repercussions should there be?
Should the parents lose custody of the child?
He has already killed once!

prosequence · 09-14-2003, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XenuHubbard
This happened a year ago.
My brother-in-law's wife works in a kindergarten. She had a miscarriage after one of the children ran into her.

My question is:
What should we charge the child with?
Manslaughter, perhaps?
What repercussions should there be?
Should the parents lose custody of the child?
He has already killed once!

Good questions, so what did happen?

XenuHubbard · 09-14-2003, 04:47 PM

Nothing happened.

prosequence · 09-16-2003, 05:55 PM

Nothing happened? And everyone was OK with that? Any apology from the family etc...?

filtherton · 09-16-2003, 06:43 PM

The child should be sent to the chair. It is okay to kill if the person is post-womb and deserves it.

09-01-2003, 03:36 PM	#42 (permalink)
Thagrastay Crazy Location: Handrail, Montana	Most christian churches do NOT believe in Original Sin. Most churches teach that Sin is a choice. Recreational sex results in pregnancy quite often. The child of the sex is not responsible for its own creation and as a human should be treated as such. After all, if it is not a baby, it's not a pregnancy. The consequences of Rape and Incest are not the fault of the child and adoption is as viable a choice as death. We have already ended the lives of millions of children, and for what reason? What is our purpose in this? Eugenics? Recreation? Convenience? Frivolity? Beethoven was the child of a rape. The government regulates seat belts and such because there are lobbies that pressure elected officials and very little opposition by others. If you disagree with the use of seat belyts, start lobbying. The government has been at a stalemate in the question of To equalize human and animal life is ridiculous. To demand that the taking of a life is acceptable because that life might be one of misery or lack contribution is nothing less than savage. If that is the case, anyone who does not contribute to society must be eliminated and we should let animals roam the streets as cattle do in India because they are of an equal worth to humans. It is impossible for anyone to be so naiive except by choice. __________________ "That's it! They've got the cuffs on him, he's IN the car!"

09-01-2003, 04:19 PM	#43 (permalink)
Bobdoler Crazy	You know, I dont even think males should be allowed to have an opinion on the subject(me being one) Let the women work it out amongst themselves, they're the ones that have to deal with the consequences. __________________ woot

09-03-2003, 02:16 PM	#44 (permalink)
prosequence Psycho Location: YOUR MOM!!	Physically yes, mentally no. I do recognise the fact not everyone wants the responsibility to make that choice, I guess it's a personal thing. __________________ And now here I stand because of you, Mister Anderson, because of you I'm no longer an agent of the system, because of you I've changed...

09-04-2003, 01:05 AM	#45 (permalink)
Theresa Upright Location: Olympia Washington	Some of my views I disagree with EVERY man who says he shouldn't have a choice in the matter. You just wait until you are paying child support for a child you didn't want the woman to have, then you might have wanted a say in it. Unfortunately though, men never will be able to have a say because it IS always the womans choice. Women should listen to a mans opinion but more often than not, women don't. I am pro choice. What is the big deal with us feeling that the human life is so damned unexpendable? We have this divine right to life yet we take it away from every other species without relent. If you are pro life - would you deem a tape worm in your stomach dispensible? You may think I am being ridiculous but an unwanted child is equally parasitic. Women sometimes die during child birth and if not, their bodies are left distorted. I am also opposed to capitol punishment. It's too expensive and you may say that "justice shouldn't have a price" but those millions of dollars that are wasted on those trials could have gone to the local police force which might have aided in keeping that POS from murdering whoever he did. Taxes in cities with criminals on death row are very high. If you do some research you will find that capitol punishment is not a deterant to crime. There is no correlation whatsoever. I would post a link here but the information was taken away with my other computer. There are lots of suicides in prison. David Hammer was quoted in saying that he couldn't wait for his execution. Why give the criminal what he wants? Those men could be living in shame and guilt. Many don't know that when you are dying, oxygen goes to the right temporal lobe in the brain. This causes a feeling of extacy and floating. Our bodies are designed to make death a pleasant experience. The government still operates under religious influence here in America and we are just in a hurry to get our criminals off to hell "where they belong". Capitol punishment is a religious practice. Have you ever heard of "An eye for an eye." Separation of Church and state? I'd like to think so. . . Last edited by Theresa; 09-04-2003 at 01:10 AM..

09-06-2003, 07:58 PM	#49 (permalink)
prosequence Psycho Location: YOUR MOM!!	Let's say a woman is pregnant and wants the child, the male doesn't. The male finds a way to get the woman to abort (physicall means / herbal / chemical ) and does so. The woman loses the child. Can he be charged? What with? Should he be charged? __________________ And now here I stand because of you, Mister Anderson, because of you I'm no longer an agent of the system, because of you I've changed...

09-04-2003, 01:09 AM	#46 (permalink)
Theresa Upright Location: Olympia Washington	I apologize in advance for posting in exhibition. Bush decreased a lot of subsidies that went to schools to teach about safe sex and increased subsidies to teach about abstinence. Personally I don't feel like this is right, kids are going to have sex you might as well inform them on how to do it more safely.

09-06-2003, 11:21 AM	#47 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	I think killin kids is alright in the context of "fighting the war on terror" Right to life until you're actually alive, then to hell with you. I think the pro-life movement should actually be called the pro-birth movement. It seems that beyond making sure every mush sack of futurehuman gets its day, the pro-life don't really have much concern for the "life" aspect of, well, life.

09-10-2003, 02:45 AM	#50 (permalink)
Theresa Upright Location: Olympia Washington	He could be charged if he resorted to physical violence. If he was secretely giving a woman herbs or chemicals as not to be trapped into paying child support if he doesn't want the kid, more power to him, in my opinion.

09-11-2003, 08:51 AM	#51 (permalink)
XenuHubbard Cute and Cuddly Location: Teegeeack.	Prosequence; This happened a year ago. My brother-in-law's wife works in a kindergarten. She had a miscarriage after one of the children ran into her. My question is: What should we charge the child with? Manslaughter, perhaps? What repercussions should there be? Should the parents lose custody of the child? He has already killed once! __________________ The above was written by a true prophet. Trust me. "What doesn't kill you, makes you bitter and paranoid". - SB2000

09-14-2003, 04:47 PM	#53 (permalink)
XenuHubbard Cute and Cuddly Location: Teegeeack.	Nothing happened. __________________ The above was written by a true prophet. Trust me. "What doesn't kill you, makes you bitter and paranoid". - SB2000

09-16-2003, 05:55 PM	#54 (permalink)
prosequence Psycho Location: YOUR MOM!!	Nothing happened? And everyone was OK with that? Any apology from the family etc...? __________________ And now here I stand because of you, Mister Anderson, because of you I'm no longer an agent of the system, because of you I've changed...

09-16-2003, 06:43 PM	#55 (permalink)
filtherton Junkie Location: In the land of ice and snow.	The child should be sent to the chair. It is okay to kill if the person is post-womb and deserves it.