04-15-2009, 02:26 PM | #81 (permalink) |
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Location: Back in Ohio
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I don't care. I didn't care that Bush did it, I don't care if Obama continues it.
As long as it's only used as intelligence gathering against people who may carry out violent acts, I have no problem with it. Now, they should try and get a warrant, but if they need to do it right then and don't have a warrant, I will let them. If anything it is streamlining and making government more efficient and cheaper. Last edited by ASU2003; 04-15-2009 at 02:28 PM.. |
04-16-2009, 08:38 PM | #82 (permalink) |
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Location: San Antonio, TX
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ASU2003: The whole point is that they wiretapped Americans who were not under any particular suspicion, without a warrant. Because they could. Because there was no oversight. Going down that road leads to a police state. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
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04-20-2009, 07:13 PM | #85 (permalink) |
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Location: San Antonio, TX
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Right and left are only two artificial choices, along a whole spectrum of political thought. Both the Republic and Democratic parties in this country are very much authoritarian in their mindset, which allows apparent contradictions like this one, where a 'lefty' like O'Bama is supporting the travesty of wiretapping American citizens.
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04-21-2009, 06:07 AM | #87 (permalink) |
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Location: bedford, tx
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ROFL, thats an awesome avatar MM.
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01-23-2010, 08:54 AM | #88 (permalink) | |
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One thing I don't understand is how Obama gets away with what he does when it is in direct contradiction to how he said he would govern. I am not surprised by his inability or unwillingness to govern as he said he would, just the fact that people seem to ignore it. I knew early on that Obama's rhetoric was empty. If I had voted for him and bought into the "change" and "hope" stuff I would be embarrassed.
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01-23-2010, 09:08 AM | #90 (permalink) |
You had me at hello
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If I had voted for any ticket with Palin on it, I would hide my face in shame.
I'm very disappointed in Obama's continuation of the failed Bush policies, as well as some new failures regarding job creation that he's adding to the mix. Frankly, I didn't vote for him and he's really kind of pissing me off. I did have hope that we'd see something new and different. Fail.
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01-23-2010, 09:57 AM | #91 (permalink) | |
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---------- Post added at 05:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:54 PM ---------- Palin actually had a record as an executive in office. She had a track record of success in many endeavors. She had a track record of going against her own party and winning. What was Obama's track record? What were his accomplishments? When did he ever take on his party?
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01-23-2010, 10:15 AM | #92 (permalink) |
You had me at hello
Location: DC/Coastal VA
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Palin also has a record of being a quitter when it got too hard. Plus, her views are so ridiculously simplistic she makes Bush look like Stephen frickin' Hawking.
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01-23-2010, 10:36 AM | #94 (permalink) | |
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I proudly supported Palin, with no apology. She may or may not run for national office again and depending on who she is running against, I could support her again without hesitation. Would you say the same regarding Obama, why or why not? ---------- Post added at 06:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:34 PM ---------- Why the silence? What are they doing about it?
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01-23-2010, 10:37 AM | #95 (permalink) |
You had me at hello
Location: DC/Coastal VA
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I didn't support him the first time around. I haven't heard of any real contenders for 2012 yet (other than Palin, which, no). If he starts the pullout, if he actually accomplishes something with hiseconomic stimulus, then I'll support him.
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