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The_Jazz 03-11-2008 06:18 PM

Shit, Hank, if that's true, it might be the biggest karmic bitchslap I've ever seen.

mixedmedia 03-11-2008 06:24 PM

I still don't care.

Tully Mars 03-11-2008 06:36 PM

If it's not me or someone I'm seeing then I don't see where it's my concern.

I find it ironic that this guy prosecuted prostitution as a DA and sold himself as squeaky clean. How come the people who scream the loudest (see Haggard et el) end up being the biggest freaks?

I read an article tonight that said he may have spent up to 80k over the past year or so with this escort service. If it turns out it's tax payer money I'll have a little different take on the subject. Since I don't pay taxes in NY it will be a very little different take.

ngdawg 03-11-2008 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by host
Spitzer is a wealthy man of impeccable reputation,

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Troopergate anyone?
Spitzer was and IS an arrogant SOB who thought he was above the law. Period. Paid cash or not, it wasn't HIS cash, hence the wiretapping.

Bet you stood up for McGreevey too.....

Best line I heard on this morning's news radio broadcast from a bystander: "I guess now his wife will be running for president in four years."

Tully Mars 03-11-2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg
Bet you stood up for McGreevey too.....

My problem with McGreevey is he hired a lover to be in charge of his states security. The lover it turns out knew nothing about security, state or otherwise. I'd be surprised to find out he knew how to operate his homes' alarm system.

I felt sorry for his wife, but figured she had to know something. I mean if he's gay his sex drive with her had to be limited at best. Some things you just can't fake, well at least men can't.

In a small way I felt sorry for him. Being openly gay takes a lot courage, IMO. If it were up to me being gay wouldn't be any different then being straight.

ngdawg 03-11-2008 07:29 PM

There are similarities between the two govs....both were known to be as they were "discovered" to be. McGreevey's sexual orientation was no secret when he was mayor of Woodbridge-he went to gay bars, was never seen dating women until he met and married the former Mrs.
Spitzer was a known arrogant liar and twister of law to suit his own needs.
The surprise is not that either was disgraced by their actions, but that it took this long and they got that far before being found out.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy Giuliani
... after being in a room with Spitzer, "I feel like I need a shower."

Read good article here

Tully Mars 03-11-2008 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngdawg
There are similarities between the two govs....both were known to be as they were "discovered" to be. McGreevey's sexual orientation was no secret when he was mayor of Woodbridge-he went to gay bars, was never seen dating women until he met and married the former Mrs.
Spitzer was a known arrogant liar and twister of law to suit his own needs.
The surprise is not that either was disgraced by their actions, but that it took this long and they got that far before being found out.

Read good article here

Well if the Weekly Standard says he's a bad guy then case closed.

QuasiMondo 03-12-2008 04:36 AM

And like Rudy should be anybody to talk about dirty officials.

The_Jazz 03-12-2008 04:37 AM

ng, I'm shocked (shocked, I say) that you would disparage Spitzer like that. Don't you know that he's holier than you?

Personally I think that the most interesting thing of the story is the sound of the crickets coming from the rest of prominent Democrats. Even when Barney Frank got in trouble back in the 80's there were folks that came to his defense, which was brave considering the times.

Something else to think about - Spitzer is a superdelegate pledged to Clinton. Will he get seated now?

ngdawg 03-12-2008 04:40 AM

The article as it stands points out the man's MO regardless of the leanings(which are probably right of center).
But no worries, I'm sure Host will justify every point.....
Ironically, except for the fact that there doesn't seem to be any criminality on Daddy's part, Spitzer is action for action, no better and now, worse, than McCain. At least so far, McCain hasn't been pointed out as a user of the very acts he's tried to shoot down. Yet.
I love irony....

Tully Mars 03-12-2008 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Jazz
ng, I'm shocked (shocked, I say) that you would disparage Spitzer like that. Don't you know that he's holier than you?

Personally I think that the most interesting thing of the story is the sound of the crickets coming from the rest of prominent Democrats. Even when Barney Frank got in trouble back in the 80's there were folks that came to his defense, which was brave considering the times.

Something else to think about - Spitzer is a superdelegate pledged to Clinton. Will he get seated now?


This morning on Morning Joe, MSNBC, seemed to think there wouldn't be a replacement superdelegate. The number would simply be 794 instead of 795.

Doesn't that mean it's possible for a tie?

Jinn 03-12-2008 07:58 AM

Quote:


I'd say June.

Shoot date of June with it being on shelves in September but the teaser pics hitting the internet in August.

And posted by Loquitur on the Titty Board on, say, 8/15/08. Place your bets.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...-_n_90768.html

"Teaser" screengrabs of everyone but "Kristen" it seems..

QuasiMondo 03-12-2008 08:00 AM

For $80,000 'Kristen' better be a looker.

Tully Mars 03-12-2008 08:06 AM

31k a day for some ladies. Maybe he didn't do this as often as I thought.

31K to get laid, might as well get married. Oh yeah, I forgot. Getting married to get laid is like buying an airline for the free peanuts.

Jinn 03-12-2008 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quasimondo
For $80,000 'Kristen' better be a looker.

Whaa? Last I heard it wasn't even $10,000.. where'd you read $80,000?

roachboy 03-12-2008 08:07 AM

i dont find anything interesting about this--spitzer's just another sanctimonious shithead hoisted by his own petard.

the jokes are too easy.

QuasiMondo 03-12-2008 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JinnKai
Whaa? Last I heard it wasn't even $10,000.. where'd you read $80,000?

It's all over the AP newswire.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/nat...icleid=1079507

I sure hope he didn't pull any kinky Marv Albert shit.

loquitur 03-12-2008 08:52 AM

It's hardly uncommon for powerful people to believe their own bullshit and conclude that the rules don't apply to them. Spitzer is just the latest in a long line. His particular partisan preference is irrelevant.

He also managed to piss off a lot of people along the way. He got the reputation of being an arrogant, hot-headed, unscrupulous, power-hungry SOB. You'll notice that pretty much no one in either party has spoken up in his defense (except some of the partisan posters on this board).

And yes, I voted for him for governor. I thought we needed an SOB to clean up Albany. Little did I know.

Redlemon 03-12-2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JinnKai
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...-_n_90768.html

"Teaser" screengrabs of everyone but "Kristen" it seems..

And now, from the same site, possibly Kristen...
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/627/originallj0.jpg

The_Jazz 03-12-2008 10:24 AM

Not my first choice on the Emporers website, but not bad.

Jinn 03-12-2008 10:28 AM

Nor mine, and there don't seem to exist any non-redacted versions. Right now she looks like the witch that melts in the rain after Hurricane Katrina..

My face is meeeeeeeeeelttttttttingggggggg...

QuasiMondo 03-12-2008 10:45 AM

Well, she doesn't look as bad as Monica Lewinsky, so that's a start.

percy 03-12-2008 11:09 AM

The worst part of it all was seeing Alan Dershowitz on CNN. Does any one take this guy seriously anymore. Seems with the advent of plastic surgery, hopefully doctors can add several mouths to his head so that he doesn't have to keep contradicting himself using the one he has.

And Spitzer is an idiot. Given his knowledge he should have known well better.

We'll see his story about a year from now when it hits the book stands. Should be a best seller. He'll probably get a tv show too.

loquitur 03-12-2008 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by percy
We'll see his story about a year from now when it hits the book stands. Should be a best seller. He'll probably get a tv show too.

Will the book be illustrated? :lol:

powerclown 03-12-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuasiMondo
Well, she doesn't look as bad as Monica Lewinsky, so that's a start.

Haha.

Ustwo 03-12-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuasiMondo
Well, she doesn't look as bad as Monica Lewinsky, so that's a start.

Hey but Monica didn't even charge for taking her dress to the cleaners.

Tully Mars 03-12-2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
Hey but Monica didn't even charge for taking her dress to the cleaners.

I'd be willing to bet Hillary would have paid that tab herself.

Cynthetiq 03-12-2008 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loquitur
It's hardly uncommon for powerful people to believe their own bullshit and conclude that the rules don't apply to them. Spitzer is just the latest in a long line. His particular partisan preference is irrelevant.

He also managed to piss off a lot of people along the way. He got the reputation of being an arrogant, hot-headed, unscrupulous, power-hungry SOB. You'll notice that pretty much no one in either party has spoken up in his defense (except some of the partisan posters on this board).

And yes, I voted for him for governor. I thought we needed an SOB to clean up Albany. Little did I know.

Exactly... There are some neighbors that are in tight with Sheldon Silver. I'm waiting to hear some of the gossip from that source. There will be some interesting things I'm quite sure of it.

Speculation from the government sources is wondering where the state troopers were during these trysts since they are supposed to be "guarding" him, and that there's more heads to roll.

Ustwo 03-12-2008 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
Speculation from the government sources is wondering where the state troopers were during these trysts since they are supposed to be "guarding" him, and that there's more heads to roll.

Well we NEED to protect public officials as a rule, I don't think thats a bad thing.

But I think there needs to be a 'don't ask don't tell' type of policy for those protecting.

People should be allowed to lead some sort of private life while serving office.

Yes it gets tricky, and even SNL did a skit of cops as Arkansas troopers lying to Hilary Clinton as Bill got it on, but I don't want to see the guards to be anything besides guards. Lets leave the minders to the north Koreans.

powerclown 03-12-2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
Hey but Monica didn't even charge for taking her dress to the cleaners.

Cmon now...if money was no object (and you were that kinda guy) who would you pick: Monica Lewinsky or "Kristen"?

Cynthetiq 03-12-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerclown
Cmon now...if money was no object (and you were that kinda guy) who would you pick: Monica Lewinsky or "Kristen"?

I thought Bill liked'em juicy.

percy 03-12-2008 01:23 PM

It might be my imagination but there is a clip of Silda Spitzer giving a speech at the end of January '08 and she looks 15 years younger than she did in the apology/I am a shithead press conference her husband gave.


Makes me wonder if she hardened (made herself look older) to soften the blow to her prick of a husband. Wouldn't doubt it. Or to be the victim to collect more come settlement time. Either way.

The heartless prick probably gets tingly feelings looking at his daughters and their friends making him want to fuck the young'uns.

Now if he would just declare war on Canada, Clinton and Obama would be competing for the V.P job.

Tully Mars 03-12-2008 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
I thought Bill liked'em juicy.

I think you're thinking about his choice in burgers and ribs.

When it comes to women I don't think he turns anyone down. I mean look at Paula Jones sans nose job.

loquitur 03-12-2008 01:43 PM

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The_Jazz 03-12-2008 01:45 PM

I'm pretty sure Bill would fuck anything with tits and a heartbeat. And he might be negotiable on the heartbeat.

Ustwo 03-12-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerclown
Cmon now...if money was no object (and you were that kinda guy) who would you pick: Monica Lewinsky or "Kristen"?

Honestly I'd pick Monica.

Not on looks obviously, and most likely not on 'skill' but I'd always rather have the one thats turned on by me and not the 4 grand sitting on the table.

SirSeymour 03-12-2008 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
Honestly I'd pick Monica.

Not on looks obviously, and most likely not on 'skill' but I'd always rather have the one thats turned on by me and not the 4 grand sitting on the table.

Not sure she liked Bill for Bill either. Power is often more of an aphrodisiac then money...

Hanxter 03-12-2008 02:12 PM

does she come with pizza?

loquitur 03-12-2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanxter
does she come with pizza?

There are so many ways to read that, Hanxter........ Where to start?

QuasiMondo 03-12-2008 02:17 PM

From the Home Office in Grand Rapids, Michigan, here's Dave Letterman's Top Ten Reasons Why Eliot Spitzer Did It With A Hooker:

10 Oh come on, like you were never involved in a prostitution ring

9 Hookers is fun

8 Just trying to help the economy

7 Have you ever been to Albany?

6 It's part of my new MTV prank show "Spitz'd"

5 Haven't been myself since Roy Schieder died

4 Uh, tainted beef?

3 Whether it's a hooker or your wife, you're always paying for it -- you married fellas know what I'm talking about

2 Wanted to be known as the Charlie Sheen of politics

1 I thought Bill Clinton legalized this years ago


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