Where are the WMD? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

maximusveritas · 04-21-2003, 06:07 AM

http://news.independent.co.uk/low_re...&host=3&dir=75

The original purpose of this war was to disarm Saddam Hussein and to destroy the weapons of mass destruction that he possessed. The Bush administration has sought to change the purpose of this war to liberation of the Iraqi people and regime change. Is this because the original reasons for going to war were manufactured? Its too early to tell, but if so, how can this war ever be considered a success if it was built completely upon false accusations?

Nad Adam · 04-21-2003, 06:16 AM

This is the thread where people will tell you that there are several reasons for the war, they will tell you that wmd will be found, they will tell you that the name of the operation is Iraqi Freedom and they will tell you not to dwell in the past.

EDIT: Interesting article by the way...

Dragonlich · 04-21-2003, 06:17 AM

Patience, dude. Patience...

maximusveritas · 04-21-2003, 06:32 AM

Funny, where was the patience for the inspectors? Now, Bush has the nerve to say we need unlimited time to find the weapons and that we may not find them at all without Iraqi cooperation.

reconmike · 04-21-2003, 06:46 AM

Blix had his own agendas, why on the last day he reported to the UN did he fail to mention the chemical spraying drone?
This is a new and improved United States, we are becoming the world power that was lost under 8 years of Bubba.
Hey check it out Syria and a few others want a dialogue with the US. Why?

Because they do not want us coming a knocking on their door when some fringe radical group fucks up.

Lebell · 04-21-2003, 09:11 AM

Yeah, Max,

Funny is the word alright. See my new post

It's freakin HILARIOUS!

maximusveritas · 04-21-2003, 11:06 AM

I read that article before I posted mine. It's full of nothing but further speculation. As the division commander says at the end, "work must still be done to validate the information." I just posted some more of my thoughts on it in that thread.

Daval · 04-21-2003, 11:21 AM

The drone in question was in fact a balsawood and duct tape plane. Not nearly the highly technological weapon that the US threatened.

i8one2 · 04-22-2003, 01:52 PM

Ask the Russians, I'm positive they know.
While at it, check India, Pakistan, syria, and Saudi's too..

SLM3 · 04-22-2003, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by zmiley
The resolutions did not simply call for compliance, they called for <b>active participation</b> in revealing WMDs.

This kind of thinking is what screwed Iraq. It's like you KNOW they're there and it's just a matter of time. Maybe they'll show up, maybe the wont, but does it really matter anymore? The US already blew up another 3rd world country, who cares if the proof shows up now?

Iraq says it doesn't have any WMD which means they must be lying therefore the US is justified in invading. Iraq says it does have WMD then the US is justified in invading. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Does it really matter anymore? It was all about liberating the Iraqi people, right?

Phaenx · 04-22-2003, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SLM3
This kind of thinking is what screwed Iraq. It's like you KNOW they're there and it's just a matter of time. Maybe they'll show up, maybe the wont, but does it really matter anymore? The US already blew up another 3rd world country, who cares if the proof shows up now?

Iraq says it doesn't have any WMD which means they must be lying therefore the US is justified in invading. Iraq says it does have WMD then the US is justified in invading. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Does it really matter anymore? It was all about liberating the Iraqi people, right?

Iraq said a lot of things. Like, for example "We have a bunch of anthrax and shit, sorry..hahaha, no really, fuck you guys." This of course is the stuff we knew they had, they said they had, and never proved they didn't destroy a few months ago. That's why 1441 is worded like it is, see? The reason they had to prove they didn't have that stuff is because we knew they previously did have it. They didn't, the UN pussed out, we didn't. We do know they have this crap, the Iraqi regime doesn't matter any more, and the Iraqi people are liberated as a result.

SLM3 · 04-22-2003, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phaenx
The reason they had to prove they didn't have that stuff is because we knew they previously did have it. They didn't

They didn't? According to who?

Sun Tzu · 04-22-2003, 07:49 PM

zmiley your right the past is an extremely good guide.

www.chronicillnet.org/PGWS/tuite/chembio.html

http://www.chronicillnet.org/PGWS/tuite/2NDINDEX.HTM

http://www.archives.gov/records_of_congress/

Dragonlich · 04-22-2003, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SLM3
They didn't? According to who?

Hans Blix, the leader of the UN weapons inspector. Tons of VX was missing, along with a lot of Anthrax and various other things.

It's simple. Iraq had WMDs, destroyed some of it (and proved it), and claims it destroyed the rest too (without any proof). The UN didn't believe Saddam. That was the reason for this whole resolution 1441 thing.

Nad Adam · 04-22-2003, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by zmiley
Nad Adam had most of it right - the WMDs will be found, but it'll take some time.

Did I say that? When... where... you must have me confused with someone else.

Nad Adam · 04-22-2003, 11:15 PM

Aha, you are thinking of my reply to this thread where I try to foresee the outcome of this thread. Those are not my views but how I think the argument will go. My bad for not being clear enough,

Sun Tzu · 04-23-2003, 03:34 PM

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MSD · 04-23-2003, 06:19 PM

[quote]Where are the WMD?[/quote}

Syria, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the US, UK, Israel, Palestine, Lybia, Lebanon, Pakistan, Afghanistan, China, N. Korea, Egypt, Turkey, you get the idea ... everywhere but Iraq. If Saddam had any more than 3 brain cells, he would have been running the only country in the world without WMD's. He threw them out to his buddies in Syria and Iran, and they'll be able to hand them back when Iraqi officials reform into a terrorist cell.

04-21-2003, 06:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
maximusveritas Winner	Where are the WMD? http://news.independent.co.uk/low_re...&host=3&dir=75 The original purpose of this war was to disarm Saddam Hussein and to destroy the weapons of mass destruction that he possessed. The Bush administration has sought to change the purpose of this war to liberation of the Iraqi people and regime change. Is this because the original reasons for going to war were manufactured? Its too early to tell, but if so, how can this war ever be considered a success if it was built completely upon false accusations?

04-21-2003, 06:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
Nad Adam Psycho Location: Sweden	This is the thread where people will tell you that there are several reasons for the war, they will tell you that wmd will be found, they will tell you that the name of the operation is Iraqi Freedom and they will tell you not to dwell in the past. EDIT: Interesting article by the way... __________________ Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. - Psalms 137:9 Last edited by Nad Adam; 04-21-2003 at 06:22 AM..

04-21-2003, 06:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
reconmike Thank You Jesus Location: Twilight Zone	Blix had his own agendas, why on the last day he reported to the UN did he fail to mention the chemical spraying drone? This is a new and improved United States, we are becoming the world power that was lost under 8 years of Bubba. Hey check it out Syria and a few others want a dialogue with the US. Why? Because they do not want us coming a knocking on their door when some fringe radical group fucks up. __________________ Where is Darwin when ya need him?

04-21-2003, 09:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Yeah, Max, Funny is the word alright. See my new post It's freakin HILARIOUS! __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

04-21-2003, 11:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
Daval Junkie Location: The True North Strong and Free!	The drone in question was in fact a balsawood and duct tape plane. Not nearly the highly technological weapon that the US threatened. __________________ "It is impossible to obtain a conviction for sodomy from an English jury. Half of them don't believe that it can physically be done, and the other half are doing it." Winston Churchill

04-21-2003, 06:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dragonlich 42, baby! Location: The Netherlands	Patience, dude. Patience...

04-21-2003, 06:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
maximusveritas Winner	Funny, where was the patience for the inspectors? Now, Bush has the nerve to say we need unlimited time to find the weapons and that we may not find them at all without Iraqi cooperation.

04-21-2003, 11:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
maximusveritas Winner	I read that article before I posted mine. It's full of nothing but further speculation. As the division commander says at the end, "work must still be done to validate the information." I just posted some more of my thoughts on it in that thread.

04-22-2003, 01:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
i8one2 COMPLETED and A TRAINER Location: BEAN_TOWN	Ask the Russians, I'm positive they know. While at it, check India, Pakistan, syria, and Saudi's too.. __________________ LEATHER, LATEX and LACE "SSC" "Nothing That Gives Pleasure is Bad" Quality is for those who know what they want and are at peace with what they have. "S/M is about emotion; the erotic tension between my impulse toward something and my resistance against it."-- Virginia Barker

04-22-2003, 07:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sun Tzu Conspiracy Realist Location: The Event Horizon	zmiley your right the past is an extremely good guide. www.chronicillnet.org/PGWS/tuite/chembio.html http://www.chronicillnet.org/PGWS/tuite/2NDINDEX.HTM http://www.archives.gov/records_of_congress/ __________________ *To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking*

04-22-2003, 11:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
Nad Adam Psycho Location: Sweden	Aha, you are thinking of my reply to this thread where I try to foresee the outcome of this thread. Those are not my views but how I think the argument will go. My bad for not being clear enough, __________________ Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. - Psalms 137:9

04-23-2003, 03:34 PM	#17 (permalink)
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04-23-2003, 06:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	[quote]Where are the WMD?[/quote} Syria, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the US, UK, Israel, Palestine, Lybia, Lebanon, Pakistan, Afghanistan, China, N. Korea, Egypt, Turkey, you get the idea ... everywhere but Iraq. If Saddam had any more than 3 brain cells, he would have been running the only country in the world without WMD's. He threw them out to his buddies in Syria and Iran, and they'll be able to hand them back when Iraqi officials reform into a terrorist cell.