Marvelous Marv

I absolutely have to quit reading Ann Coulter in the morning. I'm going broke paying to replace keyboards I've spit coffee into.

That said, here is a recent one of hers. I put my favorite parts in yellow, and my comments in red.



I would wonder how anyone, after watching this debate, could possibly think that

1. Obama is more knowledgeable, and would therefore make a better president than ANYONE, including George W. Bush.

2. John Edwards is the poor man's friend. John Edwards, who amassed a $38 million fortune by blaming every OB/GYN in NC for cerebral palsy, and every psychiatrist for patients who commit suicide. As long as the major qualification for office is good hair, he's a shoo-in. Maybe Sanjayah could be his running mate. Oops--he's too young. Okay, we'll go with a cabinet-level position instead.

Unless things have changed around here, the responses will include:

1. One member who will refer to all Republicans (never mind that the obvious tactic would be to refute the above--since it's all true, if sarcastic, the only option is to attack Republicans) as "greedy and mean-spirited." The same member once made a post which said, in its entirety, "The president's word = dogshit." That is no longer in the archives, but things never disappear completely.

2. One or more disjointed and incomprehensible compilations of "sources," which take up four or five screens. Every post of this nature that has ever been made here can be summed up as "Death to Bush, Rove, and Cheney!!!"

3. A few "Yeah, but your guys are worse" posts.

Come to think of it, this thread may not get any responses. I've already posted all of them.

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tecoyah

Actually Marv....I would very much like to reply.

It was rather funny to see the great Anne at her best, (which isn't very good) trying to tear apart the words of people who obviously didnt need much help to look bad. The Bias she throws is no longer even funny for most thinking people (conservatives included), and has to be something of an embarassment.
That said, I would agree the Dems pretty much sucked as expected, but still said more than the Republicans during the debate they tried to hold. Neither side has much to be proud of at this point, and it seems we the people have a bunch of losers to choose from for the highest office in the country.
I would recommend however, you pick someone a bit less...uh....whats the word......pointless to quote in the future. You do yourself an injustice everytime you place her words in a context of seriousness.

filtherton

I agree, this type of thing requires a good sense of humor. If only so that one doesn't feel the need to collapse into a pile of hate when pondering the condition of popular political discourse in this country.

That being said, i don't really understand your point. Is it that ann coulter can be moderately clever and disingenuous at the same time? I think if the people who signed her checks were of a different political ideology than they are now she could have written an equally moderately clever and disingenuous piece of commentary about the republican debates.

robot_parade

I haven't seen the debate, so I can't comment on it. However, Ann Coulter is an evil, nasty woman, who is popular mostly because people revel in the filth she spews out. I wouldn't give credence to what she says if she were running around claiming that the pope is catholic.

Also, claiming to know what all the responses will be, and paraphrasing isn't debate. It's annoying. At best, it's masturbation.

mixedmedia

I think this is a low-point for the voracious wit of Ann Coulter due obviously to the glaring lack of material she had to deal with.

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tecoyah

Nah....Mostly its stuff like this that made me decide not to read her opinions anymore:

“(Liberals say) (t)he death penalty does not deter. How do liberals know? This is an article of faith, not a statement of empirical fact. If the death penalty doesn’t deter murder, how come Michael Moore is still alive and I’m not on death row?”

“When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.”

“They’re [Democrats] always accusing us of repressing their speech. I say let’s do it. Let’s repress them. Frankly, I’m not a big fan of the First Amendment.”

“Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity (as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of ‘kill everyone who doesn’t smell bad and doesn’t answer to the name Mohammed’)”.

“Press passes can’t be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the President.”

“God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, ‘Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It’s yours.’”

“The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man’s dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet–it’s yours. That’s our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars — that’s the Biblical view.”

“I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t.”

“I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote. No, they all have to give up their vote, not just, you know, the lady clapping and me. The problem with women voting — and your Communists will back me up on this — is that, you know, women have no capacity to understand how money is earned. They have a lot of ideas on how to spend it. And when they take these polls, it’s always more money on education, more money on child care, more money on day care.”

“When we were fighting communism, OK, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we’re up against absolutely insane savages.”

“Our book is Genesis. Their book is Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring, the original environmental hoax.”

“I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo.”

“We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren’t punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That’s war. And this is war.”

“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.”

“I would like evolution to join the roster of other discredited religions, like the Cargo Cult of the South Pacific. Practitioners of Cargo Cult believed that manufactured products were created by ancestral spirits, and if they imitated what they had seen the white man do, they could cause airplanes to appear out of the sky, bringing valuable cargo like radios and TVs. So they constructed ”airport towers“ out of bamboo and ”headphones“ out of coconuts and waited for the airplanes to come with the cargo. It may sound silly, but in defense of the Cargo Cult, they did not wait as long for evidence supporting their theory as the Darwinists have waited for evidence supporting theirs.”

mixedmedia

I like that picture of Ann and the Rev., though. Leaves me wondering who's feeling up who.

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roachboy

ann coulter.
what an idiot.

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Willravel

I wonder if she's ever been to a Presidential debate. You see, of all the responsibilities of the nominees, picking the light bulbs is not one of them. Also, Ann presents a false choice (something she uses commonly in the stead of a decent argument). It's not integrity OR character OR truthfulness OR low energy lightbulbs, it all of the above. Speaking from experience, a father can teach all of those things at once! My daughter very rarely lies at age 3.5, she is a character, and she knows about the 'energy star' sticker on the washer. It's good to know that Obama is as wise a father as I.
Again Ann's complete lack of knowledge comes into play. a) the question asked for allies, not allied countries, and b) the EU is an ally to the US in MANY ways. Just because they didn't support the ass backwards invasion of Iraq doesn't mean that they are going to continue freely trading with us or meeting with us at the UN.
Anne Coulter is a blatant racist and she wouldn't know what a European was thinking if she had telepathy because she's so closed minded herself. Or was this to try and make people laugh? Ha ha! Muslims hate us! Everyone join in the racist good time! Sorry, but Ann isn't a comedian. This is hate filled rhetoric. Also, many Europeans hate our government, just like most Americans.
Which is funny coming from Ann Coulter. In this very article, she has completely misrepresented all European Muslims and broke the third commandment 20 times. Ann Coulter is the ultimate pot calling the kettle black, and the funny thing is, the kettle isn't even black. Obama is. There's your Coulter-esque humor of the day.

host

Maybe it's time, again....for real change.....

connyosis

Correction: The European Union happens to be composed by people amazed that Ann Coulter isn't commited to some insane asylum. Then again what do we know? We're bat shit crazy liberals who hates God, the US and children. Not necessarily in that order...

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aceventura3

I love Ann Coulter. She has a way of striking a certain nerve in liberals that makes them go into fits. I am not sure whats funnier, her humor or the liberal response.

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loquitur

I think she knows exactly what she is doing, and does it deliberately to get attention and goose her sales figures. If the usual suspects didn't react to her the way she tries to get them to react, she wouldn't get half as much attention or make half as much money. I doubt she really believes half the things she says.

roachboy

it's almost funny that the "she really gets the goat of liberals" is the best you can do, ace.

conservatism does not have to be stupid.
you seem to have forgotten: i guess protracted exposure to contemporary american conservatism will do that to you.

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aceventura3

Occasionally I just sit down and have a good laugh. I like political humor, I even like Doonebury. Which reminds me, I have to find my copy of; In Search of Regan's Brain - that had to be his best compilation. I also like the guy named Al Gore - he did this bit in front of Congress - ...wheen yoour baabby's on fire, yoou puut the fire oout..., when I heard that, I laughed for at least an hour.

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"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions on vegetarianism while the wolf is of a different opinion."
"If you live among wolves you have to act like one."
"A lady screams at the mouse but smiles at the wolf. A gentleman is a wolf who sends flowers."

tecoyah

I'm seriously curious though Ace....please read the quotes from her I posted above, and give me your opinion on how beneficial they are to the country, the conservative cause, and the goal of peaceful coexistance of Amercans. Also, of you would please take her comments as a literal truth in her mind, as that is how she portrays it....rather than political humor.

Then look at the way people who might actually care about society, and civilized communication would take such commentary, and how they might feel about someone that "Loves" what she stands for.

skier

George Bush's Education:

Bush attended Yale University, where he received a Bachelor of Arts degree in history in 1968. By his own characterization, Bush was an average student. Coming out of the army to obtain an MBA from Harvard University, he again received average grades.


Barack Obama's Education:

Obama studied at Occidental College for two years, then transferred to Columbia University, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations. He received his B.A. degree in 1983, then worked for one year at Business International Corporation. Afterwards he went to Harvard law and he completed his J.D. degree magna cum laude in 1991. He was a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago from 1993 until 2004.


I have no idea how i could POSSIBLY think Obama was knowledgeable and how his knowledge could apply to his potential presidency... especially that silly "Lecturing constitutional law" to university students for 11 years, or his graduating magna cum laude. I must be confused.

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Willravel

skier wins the thread. Well played.

aceventura3

About as beneficial as the political skits on SNTL.

Liberals focus on her humor rather than focusing on their liberal causes.

A wise man once said - when liberals learn to laugh, peace will prevail.

You have to admit that Gore testimony about the baby was pretty funny, even if you are a liberal.

She takes a line of truth and stretches it to it's extreme limits for the sake of humor. She is right at the "edge" and it depends, but sometimes she is serious and somtimes not. Generally, when she is being interviewed and can hardly contain her laughter, she knows she has taken a step over the "edge" and is kinda toying with the qudiance or interviewer. That is when I start to loose it.

What she called the Edwards went too far, but for the most part, I think her voice is healthy, no worse than the left political humor.

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"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions on vegetarianism while the wolf is of a different opinion."
"If you live among wolves you have to act like one."
"A lady screams at the mouse but smiles at the wolf. A gentleman is a wolf who sends flowers."

Willravel

The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, and Real Time with Bill Maher are all very popular.

aceventura3

As a conservative I laugh when I watch those shows. I even read a few pages from Al Franken's last book at the book store and laughed a few times. Why can't liberals see the humor in Ann?

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"Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions on vegetarianism while the wolf is of a different opinion."
"If you live among wolves you have to act like one."
"A lady screams at the mouse but smiles at the wolf. A gentleman is a wolf who sends flowers."

Willravel

Ann is cruel and bigoted. Jon, Stephen and Bill aren't.

aceventura3

What was cruel and bigoted in what was shown in the OP?

Did you see SNTL Saturday night, the opening skit with Pelosi and "San Francisco Values", that is o.k., but Ann is cruel?

I think I understand.

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"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions on vegetarianism while the wolf is of a different opinion."
"If you live among wolves you have to act like one."
"A lady screams at the mouse but smiles at the wolf. A gentleman is a wolf who sends flowers."

robot_parade

Yes, this is part of it. Also, AFAIK, Jon, Stephen, and Bill are all *always* billed as essentially political comedians. The impression I get is that Ann is *not* viewed as merely a voice of comedy - she is (supposed to be) more of a comentator, a mouthpiece of conservative thought. If she were a comedian spouting her hateful thoughts, that woud be one thing. But she's not. She's held up as some sort of conservative icon. If the lines tecoyah quotes were from a comedian, I would mostly just think they weren't very funny. Maybe some of them are for comedic effect, and not intended to be taken seriously at all. Impossible to tell without context. But, from what I've heard from her, I think she *really* means most of them, and that scares the hell out of me, when they come from someone that is supposed to represent conservative thought in this country.

So, if she's meant to be the right's version of Stephen Colbert, and nothing she says is meant to be taken seriously, then I have to say I just don't find her funny. But I think she's not trying to be funny. I think, like I said before, she is an evil woman, best ignored.

mixedmedia

I echo robot_parade's line of thought.

If she's supposed to be a comedian, she just sucks at it.

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The_Jazz

My opinion of Ann Coulter has always been that if she wasn't tall, blonde and a good dresser she wouldn't be nearly as popular. Let's face it, the Right in this country is dominated by white males, and from an aesthetic standpoint, she's going to be appealing to that group. If she was fat with a big hairy facial mole, I sincerely doubt she'd be anywhere close to the phenomenon she is.

Personally, I don't find her particularly witty or insightful. Her writing comes off as shrill, but I'm also the first to admit that there hasn't been a politcal columnist that I've consistently read since Royko died. I grew up reading his stuff, and he was actually one of the reasons (albeit way down the list)that I moved to Chicago all those years ago.

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loquitur

She gets attention because her targets rise to the bait. She's doing it deliberately, or at least seems that way to me. For her it's good business. The more shrill and over-the-top the better. She's a political carnival barker, parading her freak show around. If people didn't come by to gawk and cluck disapprovingly, she'd fade real fast.

Willravel

So you're saying Ann Coulter is Ali G?

dc_dux

Lil Junior Miss Conservative?


http://www.whitehouse.org/initiative...brownshirt.asp

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roachboy

nice dc...

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The_Jazz

Personally I prefer the Bartcop clown picture, but I can't find it. This one is funny too, dc.

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FoolThemAll

That sums up my thoughts on Coulter. She's just annoying to me. More annoying than Carrot Top, less annoying than Carlos Mencia.

Also, to me, she's less annoying than the fans who take her seriously.

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ubertuber

Why does she call Barack Obama "Hussein Obama"?

I don't get it.

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Willravel

It's his middle name: Barak Hussain Obama.

robot_parade

So, conservatives on the board: Is Ann Coulter just a comedian who we shouldn't take seriously? Or do her views represent conservatism in any way?

shakran

Oh heck Ace, maybe you're right. Everyone else has already torn her article to shreds so I guess I don't need to chime in there.

Hell I'll even give her props - considering her other work, I think she was pretty nice in this column. After all, she didn't call anyone a faggot this time.

Willravel

Tell me, is the whole of Ann's writings in the OP? No? Then that's a strawman.
You mean SNL? I didn't see it. Do you have a link?

37OHSSV

I may be new here, but is this no longer in effect? I wouldn't categorize the OP as satire. Humor, maybe, but not fictional, and not a made-up joke. The cartoon, however ...

37OHSSV

Actually, instead of discrediting what she said, they just hated on her.

Jinn

This has nothing to do with humor and everything to do with political standing. I don't find it funny, because I find it QUITE disingenuous.

"I just woke up from watching the Democrats' debate last Thursday"

HILARIOUS! BAHAHA ! CHUCKLE CHUCKLE. She's a Conservative, and she watched the Democratic debate! BAHAH!

"To prove his bona fides to the environmentalist nuts, Obama said: "We've also been working to install lightbulbs that last longer and save energy. And that's something that I'm trying to teach my daughters, 8-year-old Malia and 5-year-old Sasha."

This wasn't his response to gay marriage, and she knows it. It was taken out of context.

"In case you missed this profile in Democrat machismo, the Democratic presidential candidates are refusing to participate in a debate hosted by Fox News Channel because the hosts are "biased." But they'll face down Mahmoud Ahmadinejad!
At this, even Hillary Clinton was thinking, "Come on, guys — let's grow a pair."

This ALMOST warrants a chuckle.

"(When he mentioned his spouse as a "moral leader," Hillary visibly tensed for fear that she might be asked the same question.)
In fairness to Edwards, asking a trial lawyer to name his favorite moral leader is like asking the president of Iran to name his favorite Jew. (Answer: George Soros.)"

Another "almost."

Oh - AND, to be quite honest - she's a bigoted idiot bitch. If John Stewart was vocally political outside of his show, going so far as to attack others, he wouldn't be funny, either.

There's funny, and there's funny with a motive. Guess which one Coulter likes?

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