fevre

From tomorrow's Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...900880_pf.html

This man that often refers to himself as commander in chief - this Bush person that we speak of - has so completely involved himself in his own narrative, it appears he is unable to see or hear much of anything that exists outside it.

Bit by bit, one by one, he has whittled away at the sources of information he allows the chance to be heard - those that do not fit comfortably within the protection of his self-imposed narrative cocoon.

A living, breathing, Mr. MaGoo, if you will.

We will not send more troops but we will also send more troops. We are winning but we are not winning, but we are definitely not losing. We will listen to our generals on the ground on Tuesdays and Thursdays and maybe on Saturdays.

But never on Mondays.

This Bush person has an astounding habit of claiming that left is right. Up is down. Black is white. In is out. What he said yesterday is of no importance because, well, pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Pure, raw, uncut logic.

It seems that he awakes each day as a new man, with no recollection of the man that preceded him.

He says things and then does not say them. Ridicules ideas and then embraces them as his own.

I find the Bush narrative too convoluted to even discuss on a verbatim basis.

Someone save this man from his own cocoon. Soon, he won't be able to see us at all.

But to look past this man is where the real darkness can be seen, lurking on the horizon. When he is gone, I see a nation standing suddenly motionless, slowly blinking its eyes, as if awoken in the middle of the night by the glare of flourescents.

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Willravel

Darkness over the horizon? There's no way the next president will be a Republican. Even with all the "but we hate Bush, too" talk coming from the Republicans now, it's too little too late. Our next president will be a Democrat by a margin of 5-8%.

fevre

I do not see how this is relevant.

The idea of putting a democrat (as a generic descriptive term) in office, with the implied assumption that democrats "do the right thing" does nothing to address anything in any real way, and doesn't seem to even consider the very likely possibility that a democrat is just another person working for his/her party and not for you or I or even America.

What is a democrat?

It is nothing.

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The_Jazz

In that case, what's your point? As it stands, I just see you post as another Chicken Little warning of the falling sky or Eyore saying that it'll never work.

I also like how you've reduced the entirety of American politics to simple self-interest.

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reconmike

Just like when we awoke from the Jimma Carter years to a great 8 years of Reagan, Carter was the worst mistake this country ever put in office, and if we recovered from his butchering 4 yrs we will be fine in 08

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pan6467

Don't be too sure Will, the Dems truly have to do something to prove themselves and to show they have a plan.

If they just try to live on an Anti-Bush/ anti-war sentiment they won't get anywhere.

If they run Hilary in '08 they will lose.

IMHO the Dems are on a very fine line and truly need to find and promote better ideas.

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florida0214

WOW. To assume that the Country will be better off with a democrat in office is truly ignorant. Our two party political system is flawed to the core. This flaw is called human nature. Humans naturaly have a CYA complex. Politicians are no differant. They will do whatever suits their agenda. Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Green Party ETc.. Our elections have turned into a choice between the lesser fo two evils. America wil recover. We have a way of healing ourselves. We also have to remember that we are a young country and nation. We are approaching the point in our reign what will determine whether or not we can survive and thrive or choke and die.

Bush is not the only problem this country has. But he is an easy target.

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Willravel

What is this thread about? I took a stab at it meaning that the 'darkness over the horizon' (cheezy) was another bad president or mistake-ridden party in office. Comparaing our most modern representation of the Republicans in office (Bushco.) against the most modern representation of the Democrats in office (Clintonco.), we'd be better off Dem. Now I'm really not sure what this thread is about.

The_Jazz

I think that the point here is to bitch without any discussion. This thread seems sort of useless.

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Paq

i felt like a lot of people's eyes were opened before the 2006 elections and i feel that breath of fresh air in 2008 when we get some real leadership changes going on. and yes, i'd be happy with the ABB proposition..anybody but bush. i think the OP had it right...listen to the generals two-three days a week, but never on monday and never on anything more important than where to drop poptarts...

here is a president that just had a full commission condense the situation into something most people can understand..then give alternative solutions and he goes with ...the original course...more troops it is.

times like this make me glad we do have the military we do bc a lesser one would really be in trouble..

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docbungle

The article linked in the OP (and most others I've read recently) states that GW is intent on sending more troops to Iraq, despite most advisors - and most of the country - telling him this would not be a great idea. And, truthfully, what would throwing more troops at Iraq possibly accomplish, other than adding to the mess?

You don't hire people for a job before you have a job for them to do.

As for Bush spinning his own reality, yes, he's been doing that for some time, hasn't he? What's alarming is how succesfull he's been at selling it to the rest of the country.

And Will, a democrat in the white house is just about the most empty hope for improvement that I can imagine. Since when is a democrat a cure all?

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