10-12-2005, 01:59 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Are dogs sensetive to spirits?
Was wondering if anyone else has experienced something like this. My dog will sometimes stand there barking at nothing, but looking at something if you know what i mean. It's like he's barking at something I can't see. Also, sometimes he is terrified of going in the basement and will even run past the door to the basement like he doesn't want to be near it. Other times he runs right down the steps. I tried to get him to come down stairs with me when I have seen him in this "scared" mode and he'll have nothing to do with it and is a very obedient dog. He's quite young and not senile and at the times he has been afraid to go downstairs, when i go down, i get goosebumps like there's something watching me. have also felt this feeling when i step into a blank space that he's barking at. Has anyone ever eperienced such a thing or heard of animals that are sensitive to spirits?
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10-12-2005, 06:29 PM | #2 (permalink) |
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Sure, why not?
I mean, I've heard stories of animals acting funny before earthquakes. The old-timers around here swear that if you need to figure out if bad weather is coming, check the cows. If they're standing up grazing, everything's fine. If they're hunkered down, bad weather is on the way. I seem to remember a story right after the big tsunami about animals running inland, although, to be honest, I could just be pulling that out of ass and not know it. I've seen dogs do some freaky weird stuff, so if they can see dead folks, it wouldn't surprise me too much.
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10-12-2005, 09:13 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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At the Tower of London in England, the police take dogs in to search for drugs and such every once in a while. Apparently there's one part that the dogs absolutely will not go into, for whatever reason. I like to think that it's because they sense the death and spirits in there, but then, why would they not refuse to go into the other parts?
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10-17-2005, 02:56 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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You can feel bad vibes yourself. Go inear a bad neighborhood, go next to a house with "negative energy"....you'll definitely feel it yourself. so dogs can feel it too.
My girlfriend's dogs are constantly barking. If they hear a car in the driveway, if they see someone move from a room to another, so I wouldn't be able to detect shit through them about "weird vibes" in her house, although I do feel some myself. |
10-18-2005, 05:01 PM | #9 (permalink) | |
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As for dogs seeing spirits...they can sense earthquakes, bad storms, and sickness....why not spirits as well? It makes sense to me.
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10-18-2005, 06:00 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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Am I a bad person because I expected this thread to be about getting your dog drunk?
For the actual topic - I don't know about spirits, but I definately think they're very receptive to the mood in the room or the people they are around...I think it's related to the smell sense. It's tough to say if they are keying off some nervous energy you're giving or not sometimes. I'm not too sure where I stand on ghosts and so forth, but I'm not ruling it out...
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10-18-2005, 07:35 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
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well.. dogs are very sensitive to lots of things. Like certain dogs can detect a heart attack in a person before the person themself will know. and of course they have very sensitive senses of smell and hearing so they can hear many things we cant. When i hear you guys talking about bad "vibes" it may very well be exactly that.. bad vibrations in/from a certain area of a building due to maybe traffic from far away (a basement being partly/mostly in the ground would give off diferent vibrations than the top floor of your house.. there's a different accoustic to the area, it may absorb/reflect sound and air movement differently and dogs definitely notice these things. They may seems slight to us but to them it could b as loud as a thunderstorm.
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Also keep in mind you dog does sense your change in action and mood and many other factors when you try to do something like lure them into an area or stuff like that. If you're walking around the house acting normal then all of a sudden go into the basement and all attention is suddenly focusedon the dog they'll react a bit oddly sometimes. etc etc .. *tired* Edit: wow, lots of typos.. too tired to fix now.
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10-19-2005, 05:41 PM | #12 (permalink) | |
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Well, more and more, everyday, I become a bit more of a 'believer'. When it comes to exactly pinpointing what I am a believer of, its difficult. But yeah, I'm one of "those" people. Reading about of lot of stuff, researches and all, have directed me to the acknowledgements of energetic fields. I do believe that we have energy waves radiating from our body. That they are affected by have to do with our mood, self confidence, life energy (something I can begin to understand but can't explain yet), and some of that stuff which most people and even myself think is "freaky". I'm not a religious person. But I do believe that there are things that we don't comprehend, strange feelings, premonitions and all. Where I stand about the subject of ghosts, however, is very uncertain. In order to believe in ghastly spirits, I would have to believe that there is something about death. Which I don't. However the subject interests me extremely and some "evidence" or experiences can point towards the existence of spirits. So yeah. I believe in some "paranormal" stuff, and I think that they are the origin of those strange "vibes". |
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10-19-2005, 06:07 PM | #13 (permalink) | |
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Absolutely. Two examples, beyond my psychotic cat who has e.s.p....
Big pit bull. Thinks he's a lap dog. His 17 year old boy goes into the hospital. Dog starts howling for no reason at 4:30 one afternoon. In the hospital 30 miles away, his boy had a seizure and his heart stopped for 45 seconds at that moment. Two days later, mom and dad come home. Dog has been freaking out since 1:30 am per the neighbors. Dog greets mom and dad, smells them, takes off for his boy's bedroom and pees all over his bed. Boy died at 1:35 am. This happened three weeks ago today. Little bitty mutt dog. Sweet 13 year old puppy. Snapped at every person that came near her 3 y.o. girl. Starts trembling for apparently no reason on Friday. No one had noticed that her girl had been apneic for almost a minute. Girl comes back and puppy relaxes. Puppy starts barking every morning at about 4:25 am. At 4:30 am on Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, all of the girl's toys start playing music and turning themselves on. Wednesday morning, 3am. Puppy refuses to leave girl's side for the first time since she became comatose on previous Thursday. Girl takes her last breath at 4:30 am. Puppy refuses to go into the room after funeral home leaves with her girl. Puppy will randomly run into the center of the room and throw herself on the floor, belly up. All of girl's toys start playing music. Everyone in room gets goosebumps. That was my morning today. So, yeah. I don't believe in God, but I sure as heck believe in spirits. And animals are so very sensitive to them. I went to a college that was haunted. I didn't believe then. Until I experienced it firsthand. One still lives with me today. And my cat loves him/her. Will weave in circles like he does around my legs when he wants what I'm cooking. But no one is there. Never had a negative experience, just scary a few times and quite helpful others.
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10-19-2005, 08:24 PM | #14 (permalink) | |
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There's been studies that show electro-magnetic fields can cause a person to "feel a presence". Like if you blindfold and earplug someone and put something with a field near their head they will let you know they feel a presence where that object is. Also people's bodies do have that type of field around them. ( i dont mean aura.. but i guess it is a kind of aura) There's even types of devices that are currently being developed that work through these fields. For example, wireless headphones could possibly work using your body's field, using it as a wire. So our bodies do generate fields, whether or not they stick around in a ghostly form after we die under our control is another story. But you never know.. ghosts could exist. Oddly believing in spirits doesn't seem to effect people's behavior. If i knew for a fact people turned into a ghost when they die I probably would stop whackin it, cuz i dont want my passed family to watch me do it. But since the question remains upin the air, i whack on.
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10-20-2005, 08:59 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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I don't know about "spirits", but my dog senses things that I do not.In particular, distant thunder that is outside my range of hearing will send her scurrying to find me. 30 minutes later, the storm will move closer and I'll figure out why she got so friendly. She is also afraid of dark "holes". Caves and dark open doors scare her, she will go out of her way to avoid them.
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10-20-2005, 01:44 PM | #16 (permalink) | |
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10-20-2005, 05:03 PM | #17 (permalink) | |
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10-21-2005, 04:21 AM | #18 (permalink) |
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on the radio station i listen to they some times tell 'tingly stories' or ghostie type stories not scary onesbut.
anyway one story went some thing like this......... there was a granddaughter who used to visit her grandparents with mum and dad once a month or son and she used to love playing out side and sitting on the edgeof the carpet and used to have a pretend dog there who she used to pat and play with the dog never had a name just doggie, then as she got a little older about 9 or so the photo album came out and she was looking through it and said there is my dog i play with when i am atnana's and poppy's. he had passes away from old age before she was born! so if a child can see a dog's spirit why not the other way around? i believe they can. |
10-24-2005, 08:16 PM | #19 (permalink) | |
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As for me; I think they can detect paranormal things. My parent's house has spirits. My mom owns an australian cattle dog that is very protective of her. My dad had what he calls a weird dream but it was more than that. When my mom woke up to him making choking noises and saying get out she realized her dog that usually is sleeping on the bed was in the back of her kennel shaking like a leaf. My dad said a form was by him and told him to leave and my dad told him to get out and then it started choking him. He tried to pass it off as a dream but I know better. I grew up in that house. Too many freaky things happen. My aunt did a cleansing and to my knowledge they haven't had a problem with him again.
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10-26-2005, 10:15 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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My dogs have convinced my wife that our house is haunted... Nothing weird has happened, but every now and then, especially in the upstairs rooms, they will look into the corner of the rooms and growl or bark, just get real skitchy.
I think its a squirrel.
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11-10-2005, 11:53 AM | #21 (permalink) |
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Don't have a dog, but my cats sense stuff. My SO and I have just bought a house built in 1939. We know of at least one owner who passed away in his sleep there in 1996. he was a kindly man according to everyone in town. We find our thermosat changed all the time. Our stereo in the parlor will turn on as my SO comes downstairs in the morning and it will play "Drops of Jupiter" by Train for her, sometimes without that CD in the stereo (creepy). We also have a pair of sock monkeys that our mom's made us when we were little. They sit on the book self side by side with their arms around each other. One time I found them sitting on each others laps, but the next morning they were as usual. The cats will often sit in the middle of the room and stare into space for an hour or more, as welll as do the weave in and out of the legs thing referenced above. I think we have a kind ghost with a sense of humor.
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11-15-2005, 07:09 PM | #22 (permalink) |
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Of course your opinon on this will surely be greatly effected by you opinon on spirits ingeneral. I personally have had direct experience with the parnormal, I can't explain (not in a convincing way that would make a non believer believe me anyway) but I know its true and thats enough for me. The real thing here is can animals be senstive. I personally believe that SOME can. This isn't just limited to dogs btw, all animals may or may not be. I think some dogs are just dumb as rocks and wouldn't know a ghost from their own anus. The good thing about dogs that are senstive though, is with no stigma against it they can go on being sensetive without feeling need to repress it. I personally believe nearly all human children are senstive at birth. To the point that I am convinced that many of them can actully see and hear spirits. Its through both the "noise" of modren life and the condition of parents and those around them that causes them to stop seeing them.
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11-29-2005, 06:21 PM | #23 (permalink) |
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Yeah I believe that dogs can sense spirits. Once I was sitting on the balcony of my room with my cousin at about 3 in the morning. All of the sudden my neighbour's dog just woke up and started barking. It barked for a while and then started to whimper. But there wasn't anything there and I'm not the only one who saw it. Then the dog went to a corner and was practically crying. That freaked the shit out of me as it was very early in the morning and we're the only one there who witnessed that.
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12-02-2005, 04:00 PM | #24 (permalink) |
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I have had experiences that tend to convince me that dogs and other animals are aware of some things that we are not- for example, there was one stretch of woods near my house, where a body was found murdered years before ( yes I checked my local papers back issues), that had an odd feel to it, like someone was watching you, and none of my friends dogs would go into it- were they just reacting to something in the background, or was it something else- beats me, but it was damn wierd........
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12-02-2005, 07:41 PM | #25 (permalink) |
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Fire - dogs don't 'see' the way you or I do. For one, they're partially colourblind; they lack the long-wavelength cone cells that allow us to process red and green light. On top of that, they have a much higher ratio of rods to cones in their retinas. This allows them to see much better in low-light conditions, but further reduces colour sensitivity and also affects visual acuity - it's estimated that normal vision for a dog equates to roughly 20/75 vision in a human, which is considered practically blind for us. They are, however, much better at detecting and distinguishing movement than we are.
Also worth remembering is that dogs hear in a completely different spectrum than we do and they also have much more sensitive hearing - thus a near-ultrasonic sound at a low intensity may not even be noticeable to us, but might be both noticeable and very irksome to a dog. And they also have a much more refined sense of smell, being able to pick up odours that are completely undetectable to humans. Why do I bring this up? I'm just pointing out that the way Fido perceives the world is very different from the way you or I do. A dog might pick up on a scent, such as urine, which will make him hesitant to enter an area that might be viewed as somebody else's territory. There may have been coyotes, foxes, wolves or other canines in those woods who had marked the area, making the dogs wary of it, while you were completely unable to detect anything amiss. Or perhaps there were some high-tension wires or some other source emitting near-ultrasonic sounds. I've noticed that I can sometimes barely pick up these tones and that they tend to set my teeth on edge - sort of a buzzing or whining in my inner ear. Televisions have always been a strong source for me - I can always tell if a tv is on in the general vicinity. If I don't notice it at first however, I may simply realize that for some reason I'm feeling a bit jumpy (that 'being watched feeling') without knowing why. A noise of sufficient intensity would likely upset a dog as well and if it's just a few Hz higher than the human range, you may not consciously pick up on it. I'm not saying there wasn't something funky going on in those woods. I'm just pointing out that there are other possible explanations. Me, I like to look for the natural ones before concluding that it must be the supernatural.
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12-04-2005, 12:28 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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my 5 year old border collie, Oliver, was feeling ill. I took him to my vet a couple of times for some studies and we concluded he probably had a malignant tumor that needed surgical resection. I took him to the vet for the procedure ... when I opened the car door Oliver started to get out then stopped in his tracks as if something just startled him. It looked like he was staring past me and didn't want to come out of the car. (I've never seen him look fearful at anything) I kept coaxing him and he finally came out. Inside I gave him a big hug and kiss before going home. Hours later I got a phone call that his tumor was not resectable and that he probably wouldn't last post-operative recovery and suggested I allow them to put him to sleep. My heart broke completely that day. I keep thinking Oliver knew that he wouldn't see me again ... all he wanted was to be home with the people who love him - That was 2 years ago. I still feel guilt.
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12-05-2005, 04:39 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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Hey if the dogs can see 'em and I can't, even the better for me. I'd rather not see spooky things. Watch me jinx myself for saying that. oh no.
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12-15-2005, 12:59 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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Last night I was up late reading. I got a chill up my spine and right after that my dog started growling and staring at a corner of the room. Did she see something? I don't know but she wouldn't take her eyes off that corner for about five minutes. The she put her head down and went to sleep and I kept reading.
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12-16-2005, 04:35 AM | #30 (permalink) |
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Ok for the purpose of this Thread i have to tell you guys why animals can see or sense things we cant hear or see.
In brief every animal in their brain is to have founded by scienctist magnetitium. A magnetised iron compound. These have appeared in birds aswell so they are able to tell which is north and south by feeling the earth's magnetic waves. However humans also has these kind of material but we dont have enough of this to a extent that we can sense the world's magnetic waves or ghost relates things. You may call seeing ghost ur 6th sense or saying that all animals has 6th sense. I've came across a site where i learnt alot about this and it sells the pills that gives you the necessary amount of magnetitium for your brain to be able to sense things like animals aswell. The site is www.magneurol.com admins im not sure if im allowed to post this delete it if i violated. anywayz guys learn from this. It doesnt necessary mean u can see ghost but it enchanced your 6th sense or open your 6th sense |
12-16-2005, 05:04 AM | #31 (permalink) |
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Yes, I believe that dogs (and animals in general) are much more attuned to the unseen than we are. Dogs haven't built up a set of "logical" preconceptions that filter what their brains are able to detect.
For that reason, I think that children are also much more sensitive to spirits than adults...but that's another thread.
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12-25-2005, 10:28 AM | #32 (permalink) |
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i would not jump to that conclusion unless you've got other reasons to believe that you have spirits in your basement.
Dogs are afraid of vacuums and other appliances, so it's quite possible that yours is afraid of the pipes or the water heater or something.
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12-29-2005, 09:11 AM | #33 (permalink) | |
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12-29-2005, 03:24 PM | #35 (permalink) | |
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Some people are sensative to this spirit of the wolf as well. The spirit will not harm those who don't fear it. Nor, will the spirit of the wolf enter the heart of those who don't welcome it.
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01-02-2006, 07:10 PM | #36 (permalink) |
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When I was away at college years ago, I never used to
tell my mother when I was travelling home 'cause I knew she would be worried until I got there safely. Every time I walked through the door our dog would be going crazy, jumping all over me all excited and looking like he was about to wet himself. My mum would say "I knew you were coming because he's been like this for about an hour or so." I would have been miles away and still on the train then. |
01-07-2006, 10:06 PM | #37 (permalink) |
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I personally feel that there's no reason to automatically suggest otherwise. I'm the type of person that likes to believe in things such as this. I've definitely seen dogs bark at "nothing", but I live in the country, this usually occurs outside, so that "nothing" could have just as easily been any kind of animal you could imagine. So it's hard for me to come up with a truly eerie personal example.
However, I cannot say the same for children. My girlfriend has a 3-year-old brother and a 2-year-old sister. I was never around kids before them, and they're totally awesome. But I have definitely seen them act strangely. The boy has become absolutely and completely petrified for no reason whatsoever, and he's normally a very brave and adventurous little guy. I've seen him stand completely still and stare at nothing at all, at least from my perspective, the whole while looking very frightened. I don't know what to make of this myself, but I'm sure the parents among you out there probably know what's up here, being much more accustomed to kids and all. (Note: Not at all my intention to threadjack, just throwing in some related experiences)
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