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HoneyPot · 08-04-2005, 04:59 PM

I was informed by my Uncle of 50 years old, that he is a true Empath. Meaning he can feel other people's feelings and this being a reason for constant depression. Crazy, I thought. Though thinking about it over and over again, I have come to the conclusion, I am one also. I know what people are thinking/feeling most of the time. Its crazy. I 'feel' for people all the time, literally. Its crazy. I thought I was pretty nutty thinking that I'm an empath, so if theres any empaths out there... help me out!

Willravel · 08-04-2005, 05:45 PM

Um, I guess I'm kinda an empath, but it's only because I'm empathetic by nature. I'm not clairvoyant or telepathic or anything of the sort, I can just relate to peoples feelings easily. When you say it outloud it sounds crazy, but I think it's quite normal. My wife and several of my friends are the same way. To be honest, I think it has more to do with the way one mentally processes other people than something supernatural.

rhaevyn · 08-04-2005, 06:03 PM

I'm an empath. I can feel people's emotions, and often physical pain, as well, if I don't block it out.

Gatorade Frost · 08-04-2005, 06:14 PM

I wouldn't say I'm an empath per se. I can read people pretty well and I trust my judgement, but I wouldn't deem myself special enough to be called an Empath of sorts.

Salomon · 08-04-2005, 06:18 PM

I would say there is a difference between calling oneself an Empath, and feeling empathetic towards your fellow man. I think psychopaths are characterized by a lack of empathy.

CSflim · 08-05-2005, 09:05 PM

E.T. Phone Home...

tecoyah · 08-06-2005, 01:32 AM

I suppose...in a way....we are all empaths, to one extent or another.
The degree varies with individuals, and can be increased with practice but, I think it is definately there.

Johnny Pyro · 08-06-2005, 01:41 AM

I can tell when someone is in emmotional pain. I don't feel that I'm feeling there emmotions, (like their sad, now I'm sad), but I can tell when someone is troubled.

ngdawg · 08-06-2005, 07:54 AM

I 'absorb' others' emotions in that I simply know what kind of day they are having, or if there's emotional upheaval and it doesn't take them telling me anything at all. But it generally doesn't affect my mental state-only once or twice did I react on an internal, personal level, not knowing why I was having the reactions until after finding out what was going on.
On a conversational level, many times I am NOT empathetic-I understand what is going on when we speak, but I don't internalize their feelings and make them my own.
My family (mother, sister, I) call it a 'sensitivity', some might call it telepathy, some have called me a witch.

It's just what I've had all my life and am just now finding out different names and the why's...Empath, eh?

amonkie · 08-06-2005, 10:23 AM

I am very aware of the people around me... when you take in the information around you, being able to feel or sense the feelings of others around you seems to follow... and the depth and ease comes with the practice and effort to continually make yourself more aware.

maleficent · 08-06-2005, 10:39 AM

I can read people very well, which comes in handy when dealing with customers and when doing demos, by judging reactions I know when to speedit up or slow it down.

But in every day life... feelings just really --- well -- I've grown immune to it-- Over the years I've encountered sooo many drama queens and emotionally needy people that I've just ceased to .... welll... care. it's like the boy who cried wolf...

ngdawg · 08-06-2005, 12:20 PM

I, too am a people reader...quickly able to process the information they give out about themselves-vibes or whatever name you would call it that makes you react to them in a certain way. As I understand the question though, being aware of how they are or reading their outward personality isn't being an "Empath", being one seems to be one who can literally put themselves in another's shoes and feel what they feel as they experience it, no?

kangaeru · 08-06-2005, 01:09 PM

You know it's weird I read this, I think i have some kind of empathic abilities...whenever I lay my hands on somebody, I can feel what they feel on my own body, like we're linked somehow.

I noticed it first when I would pet my cats and i could scratch them behind their ears and feel the itch on my own ears, but I couldn't scratch it, only theirs. I felt this ever since I was a little kid, but I never really recognized what it was until I was 15 or 16. That was at about the time I started fooling around with girls.

Giving people back massages, especially if they're emotionally open to me, it's like I'm working my own back...it's like a phantom sensation, its hard to describe.

I've found it's AMAZING for my sex life for obvious reasons...

My mom burns incense, bangs deer hide drums and chants a few times a month to 'cleanse' so I'm pretty sure I know where I got it from.

Zeraph · 08-07-2005, 12:47 PM

I'd say yes. My aunt is like me too. Took me awhile to figure out what was going on, and I'm still working on using it to my advantage rather than distancing myself from all emotions. Used to be hard to deal with when I was younger.

Ronin Tetsuro · 08-10-2005, 01:11 PM

There is a difference between being a 'natural' empath and being a 'studied' empath.

I used to have to know wen someone was about to beat the crap out of me as a kid, so I became a 'studied' empath. Out of necessity, I became aware of people's emotional states based on body language and vocal cues. But I think there ma be a bit of 'natural' empathy as well, getting shivvers and hard tingles when I see other's wounds, (a lot like the feeling I get between being injured and when the pain actually kicks in)

Now if you want to talk clarivoyance....oy. That's a for real thing, and everyone's got the ability, some just ignore it as 'coincidence'. Well, in order for coincidence to occur, there has to be a logical process that would make you choose one outcome as more probable out of the infinite matrix. That kind of calculation would take a while on paper. So what is it in the mind that allows you to do it in seconds?

I'll pick a common one that everyone just ignores. How many times have you known who was calling (without called ID) while the phone was still ringing?

Remember, kiddies. We only currently use 10-12% of our upper brain functions.

raeanna74 · 08-10-2005, 01:19 PM

I guess you could say that I am somewhat one. It would pertain to very intense emotions at any rate. To illustrate:

I was at college 2 hrs from home. One night I turned into an emotional wreck. I had no idea why. I was weaping, terrified of nothing, had numerous panic attacks and could not sleep. This lasted from about 11:00pm until around 1:00. The next day I got an e-mail. My Dad had been attacked, three ribs broken and the assailant apprehended in the woods and taken to jail by 1:00. It was frightening how clearly my emotions mirrors the upset at home. Clarvoyant, empath, telepathic - I don't care what you call it - I know there was something beyond my normal realm of existence that happened that night.

The only problem with this is that it has not been an ongoing thing. Only when intense situation occur do I feel the disturbance myself.

MSD · 08-10-2005, 06:06 PM

I can read people very well, and I have a knack for understanding their emotional state without being told. I wouldn't say it's paranormal, but it's definitely more than the average person.

I think it's possible that brain waves (electromagnetic radiation) can cause other peoples' brains to resonate in the same way that a note played on a stringed instrument will cause a string tuned to the same frequency to vibrate. Some of us may be more sensetive to these resonances, and some may have physical structures better suited to resonating. Nothing supernatural is required, just an unconventional application of standard scientific theory and fact.

Ragbags · 08-12-2005, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin Tetsuro

Remember, kiddies. We only currently use 10-12% of our upper brain functions.

While you kiddies are at it, you should also remember not to quote rubbish statistics with no basis in fact.

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
http://www.csicop.org/si/9903/ten-percent-myth.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain

Ronin Tetsuro · 08-12-2005, 09:35 AM

Deepest apologies, I had no idea. You learn something everyday.

HoneyPot · 08-14-2005, 09:18 PM

Thanks for sticking up for me Ragbags... I didn't want to think I was going nutty! haha

Akaneon · 08-17-2005, 08:16 PM

I came, because someone said 'Empath'.

Empath to me, being a natural, is a seperation from ordinary humans. I won't stuff your thread, but for anyone who is interested in asking questions, I will be more than happy to let you know why there are empaths, how empaths came to exist, what seperates a real empath from the average 'original' (or, a standard human being). Some people would refer to this type of knowledge as 'schizophrenia'. But for anyone who cares, I'll gladly take you for a walk on the paranormal side.

Send me a PM or something.

Martian · 08-17-2005, 10:16 PM

Right, so here's how it works.

Our emotions are not nearly as internal as we think they are. Lie detectors work based on this fact. Does a lie detector employ some mystical process to tell when an individual is prevaricating? Clearly not - rather it reads such signs as heart rate, blood pressure and moisture levels on the skin to determine if an individual is feeling nervous. With proper training and the right techniques, an individual can correlate this information with a recorded or live interview to determine which statements the interviewee believes to be true and which he or she believes false.

Empathy works in the same way. Through either conscious or unconscious study, it's possible to pick up on such indicators as posture, facial expression, speech mannerisms, gesturing and so on to determine an individual's emotional and physical state. These cues are myriad and extremely subtle in nature, down to such things as whteher somebody has one or both hands in their pockets of how their fingers are curled. It's further possible, due to the fallible nature of human memory, to even convince yourself after the fact that you felt a 'vibe' from an individual that you didn't register at the time. This can go so far as to attribute a muscular twinge (which we all get constantly, whether we notice them or not) to 'sympathy pain' with an individual, or even to imagine a pain that wasn't there for the purpose.

Am I saying it's impossible that such a mechanism exists? No, of course not. It hasn't been proven either way. I'm simply pointing out that there are much more plausible explanations than some mystical vibe you pick up off of someone.

Ronin Tetsuro - I often know who's calling me despite not having caller id. There's nothing otherworldly about this. I know who in my circle of friends and family are likely to call me at given times of day due to work schedules and habits. Further, when I suspect a specific caller is behind that ring and I'm wrong, I don't note it. It's only when I'm right that it seems unusual and registers. It's a bit like the street lamp phenomenon.

Got another example of clairvoyance?

Akaneon · 08-18-2005, 01:29 PM

The ability to sense someones state through cues is not empathic at all. A natural, such as myself, can read the energy waves put out by a specific person and transmit them into experiences that stimulate my existing senses. Adaptive empaths, or non-naturals, are not really empaths at all. They're just street magicians.

Ganggreen · 10-02-2005, 08:22 PM

Telepathy is all fun and games until one of those psycho telepaths show up like in that movie "Scanners" and starts makin' peoples heads blow up just by thinkin' about it.

Kalnaur · 10-03-2005, 07:12 AM

Emotion, not really.

Pain yes.

ngdawg · 10-03-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Martian

Right, so here's how it works.

Our emotions are not nearly as internal as we think they are. Lie detectors work based on this fact. Does a lie detector employ some mystical process to tell when an individual is prevaricating? Clearly not - rather it reads such signs as heart rate, blood pressure and moisture levels on the skin to determine if an individual is feeling nervous. With proper training and the right techniques, an individual can correlate this information with a recorded or live interview to determine which statements the interviewee believes to be true and which he or she believes false.

Empathy works in the same way. Through either conscious or unconscious study, it's possible to pick up on such indicators as posture, facial expression, speech mannerisms, gesturing and so on to determine an individual's emotional and physical state. These cues are myriad and extremely subtle in nature, down to such things as whteher somebody has one or both hands in their pockets of how their fingers are curled. It's further possible, due to the fallible nature of human memory, to even convince yourself after the fact that you felt a 'vibe' from an individual that you didn't register at the time. This can go so far as to attribute a muscular twinge (which we all get constantly, whether we notice them or not) to 'sympathy pain' with an individual, or even to imagine a pain that wasn't there for the purpose.

Am I saying it's impossible that such a mechanism exists? No, of course not. It hasn't been proven either way. I'm simply pointing out that there are much more plausible explanations than some mystical vibe you pick up off of someone.

Ronin Tetsuro - I often know who's calling me despite not having caller id. There's nothing otherworldly about this. I know who in my circle of friends and family are likely to call me at given times of day due to work schedules and habits. Further, when I suspect a specific caller is behind that ring and I'm wrong, I don't note it. It's only when I'm right that it seems unusual and registers. It's a bit like the street lamp phenomenon.

Got another example of clairvoyance?

If what you say was true, how do you explain me getting violently ill at the exact same moment a friend almost 400 miles away got devasting news? Or that I began choking in a store 3 miles from home at the exact same time my daughter, at home, choked on a bracelet? Or my urgent need to contact a friend and in doing so, found out there was some serious upheaval in his personal life?
Maybe once in a while, things are coincidental, but I believe that by and large, they are not.
I do believe some are sensitive, like lie detectors, as I have been 'read' by someone claiming to have that gift. But I also believe that there are some to whom we have connections. Taking a quote from a doctor I had, 'as much as we know, there is so much more we don't.'

Martian · 10-03-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ngdawg

Taking a quote from a doctor I had, 'as much as we know, there is so much more we don't.'

But that's faulty logic. That's like saying "we only know what 10% of the brain is used for, therefore 90% must be used for x." It's just not true. It's possible, but that we don't know doesn't make it true or even probable.

Consider :

You get ill one afternoon. Maybe you had some bad sushi for lunch, who knows. These things happen. That same afternoon your friend receives bad news. Later, upon talking to your friend and finding out that she received bad news on that afternoon, you remember 'hey, that's right around when I got sick!' Later, in future consideration of the event, you begin to think that maybe it wasn't just in the same afternoon, maybe it was around the same time. Or maybe it was exactly the same time. Then, with even more consideration, the maybe starts to blur. Eventually it disappears and you end up with 'I got sick at the same time that my friend received bad news, so one must follow the other (which is another logical fallacy; two things happening in succession aren't necessarily cause and effect).

Same goes for your daughter. You were 3 miles away in a department store. She choked on a bracelet. While at the department store, you choked. It happens to everyone. Saliva runs down the airway on occasion, or maybe there was something in the air that caused it, who knows. When you get home you find out about the events with your daughter and that they coincide within a few hours and your thought processes follow the same path, until again you're thinking of it as cause and effect.

Looked at another way, what about all the times your daughter choked or scraped her knee or got a bruise or whatever else and you had no idea about it? We're pretty frail creatures, mishaps like that occur on almost a daily basis. There are probably thousands of times that something happened to your daughter that you don't even know about because she or anyone else didn't even think to tell you about it. So whay makes that one event special? Why is it different? Do you see, it is coincidence, but it's also a numbers game. Eventually events are going to coincide. Eventually you're going to decide that you want to talk to a friend at approximately the same time that friend receives bad news. That doesn't mean it's cause and effect.

Judging by pictures I've seen of you, I'm going to guess that you're in your mid to late thirties. So lets put an arbitrary number of thirty years on it. In thirty years (that's over 10 000 days) , you have three specific instances that you remember things coinciding. But unless you're a shut in with no family, odds are that something bad is going to happen to a friend or family member of yours on nearly a daily basis. I know it's not pleasant to think about and it's not necessarily big things, but these things do happen. So looked at from that perspective, if you've got 10 000 instances where nothing registered and 3 where you had a 'connection', how can you look at it as anything but coincidence?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with coming to that conclusion or faulting those who do. It's human nature, everyone does it and I'm not excluded from that. But at the same time, when you look at it rationally it just doesn't seem likely. I've talked to a lot of people about these sorts of things, including a lot of people who claimed to be empaths. I have yet to meet someone who can give me more than five specific instances within their lifetime of experiencing such empathic situations and when taken in the context of someone's entire life, that isn't really that much.

I mentioned the lie detector thing, because I am a studied empath. I can read people and generally have a good idea of who they are and what they're about, along with whether they're telling the truth or not at any given point. I do it consciously, by looking for the signs I know and using information given to me to draw further conclusions (this technique is called cold reading by the way, in case you're interested).

And again, I'm not totally dismissing the concept because the fact is that nobody knows for certain whether it's possible for a person to have these abilities or not. I'm merely pointing out that there are much more plausible explanations out there and that personally, I'm going to side with those until some evidence comes up that forces me to re-evaluate that position.

ngdawg · 10-03-2005, 02:58 PM

Those are 3 examples that are the most recent. Actually, it happens almost daily with about 2-3 of the same people. Picking up moods, etc. and the only one I am in physical contact with is my daughter. At least one of those does it to me as well, almost daily-knows when things are 'off' without any communication.
Without total scientific 'proof', I would not expect people who don't got through empathic episodes to understand them. I look at it this way: every thing on this earth, in this universe, is made up of energy, has an energetic metabolism, ie: nothing is static, it is in constant motion of energy. Who's to say what is connected to what this way and who is to say what energies we can or cannot affect and when? As you said, there's the ability to 'read' people by the energies they give off to you-'signs'-so it is quite possible, as I have discovered in my many years, to be affected by the less than obvious energies or 'signs' that another gives. Some call it 'intuition' as well.

Menoman · 10-05-2005, 12:42 AM

I'd be interested for you to stuff this thread with the experiences and the like that you were speaking of Akaneon.

This is the right place for it and I am positive everyone would enjoy a good read on the subject.

SERPENT7 · 10-23-2005, 12:34 PM

I like to tell people i have psychic powers. Usually just to see how they handle the news.
But the truth is there is nothing supernatural about my 'abilities'.
I am very smart/perceptive and i trust my intuition. I do not block out the world around me. Ever. Everything i experience becomes a part of my perceptions, and is processed into a 'gestaldt' montage, and truth reveals itself to me. I understrand it for what it is, and act on it.
It has been my experience that many other people are most afraid of themselves, and thier own power. Almost as if they do not want to take responsibility for thier own actions, and so deny thier ability to act.

08-04-2005, 04:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
HoneyPot Crazy Location: Nunya	Are you an Empath? I was informed by my Uncle of 50 years old, that he is a true Empath. Meaning he can feel other people's feelings and this being a reason for constant depression. Crazy, I thought. Though thinking about it over and over again, I have come to the conclusion, I am one also. I know what people are thinking/feeling most of the time. Its crazy. I 'feel' for people all the time, literally. Its crazy. I thought I was pretty nutty thinking that I'm an empath, so if theres any empaths out there... help me out!

08-04-2005, 06:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
rhaevyn Insane Location: Pittsburgh, PA	I'm an empath. I can feel people's emotions, and often physical pain, as well, if I don't block it out. __________________ ~Alex~ You've come far, and though you're far from the end, you don't mind where you are, 'cause you know where you've been.

08-04-2005, 06:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gatorade Frost Rookie	I wouldn't say I'm an empath per se. I can read people pretty well and I trust my judgement, but I wouldn't deem myself special enough to be called an Empath of sorts. __________________ I got in a fight one time with a really big guy, and he said, "I'm going to mop the floor with your face." I said, "You'll be sorry." He said, "Oh, yeah? Why?" I said, "Well, you won't be able to get into the corners very well." Emo Philips

08-05-2005, 09:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
CSflim Sky Piercer Location: Ireland	E.T. Phone Home... __________________

08-06-2005, 01:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	I suppose...in a way....we are all empaths, to one extent or another. The degree varies with individuals, and can be increased with practice but, I think it is definately there. __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

08-04-2005, 05:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Um, I guess I'm kinda an empath, but it's only because I'm empathetic by nature. I'm not clairvoyant or telepathic or anything of the sort, I can just relate to peoples feelings easily. When you say it outloud it sounds crazy, but I think it's quite normal. My wife and several of my friends are the same way. To be honest, I think it has more to do with the way one mentally processes other people than something supernatural.

08-04-2005, 06:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Salomon Loser	I would say there is a difference between calling oneself an Empath, and feeling empathetic towards your fellow man. I think psychopaths are characterized by a lack of empathy.

08-06-2005, 01:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Johnny Pyro Hey Now! Location: Massachusetts (Redneck, white boy town. I hate it here.)	I can tell when someone is in emmotional pain. I don't feel that I'm feeling there emmotions, (like their sad, now I'm sad), but I can tell when someone is troubled. __________________ "From delusion lead me to truth, from darkness lead me to light, from death lead me to eternal life. - Sheriff John Wydell

08-06-2005, 07:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch	I 'absorb' others' emotions in that I simply know what kind of day they are having, or if there's emotional upheaval and it doesn't take them telling me anything at all. But it generally doesn't affect my mental state-only once or twice did I react on an internal, personal level, not knowing why I was having the reactions until after finding out what was going on. On a conversational level, many times I am NOT empathetic-I understand what is going on when we speak, but I don't internalize their feelings and make them my own. My family (mother, sister, I) call it a 'sensitivity', some might call it telepathy, some have called me a witch. It's just what I've had all my life and am just now finding out different names and the why's...Empath, eh? __________________ Don't blame me. I didn't vote for either of'em.

08-06-2005, 10:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
amonkie Drifting Administrator Location: Windy City	I am very aware of the people around me... when you take in the information around you, being able to feel or sense the feelings of others around you seems to follow... and the depth and ease comes with the practice and effort to continually make yourself more aware. __________________ Calling from deep in the heart, from where the eyes can't see and the ears can't hear, from where the mountain trails end and only love can go... ~~~ Three Rivers Hare Krishna

08-06-2005, 10:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	I can read people very well, which comes in handy when dealing with customers and when doing demos, by judging reactions I know when to speedit up or slow it down. But in every day life... feelings just really --- well -- I've grown immune to it-- Over the years I've encountered sooo many drama queens and emotionally needy people that I've just ceased to .... welll... care. it's like the boy who cried wolf... __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

08-06-2005, 12:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch	I, too am a people reader...quickly able to process the information they give out about themselves-vibes or whatever name you would call it that makes you react to them in a certain way. As I understand the question though, being aware of how they are or reading their outward personality isn't being an "Empath", being one seems to be one who can literally put themselves in another's shoes and feel what they feel as they experience it, no? __________________ Don't blame me. I didn't vote for either of'em.

08-06-2005, 01:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
kangaeru Crazy Location: on the road to where I want to be...	You know it's weird I read this, I think i have some kind of empathic abilities...whenever I lay my hands on somebody, I can feel what they feel on my own body, like we're linked somehow. I noticed it first when I would pet my cats and i could scratch them behind their ears and feel the itch on my own ears, but I couldn't scratch it, only theirs. I felt this ever since I was a little kid, but I never really recognized what it was until I was 15 or 16. That was at about the time I started fooling around with girls. Giving people back massages, especially if they're emotionally open to me, it's like I'm working my own back...it's like a phantom sensation, its hard to describe. I've found it's AMAZING for my sex life for obvious reasons... My mom burns incense, bangs deer hide drums and chants a few times a month to 'cleanse' so I'm pretty sure I know where I got it from. __________________ Dont be afraid to change who you are for what you could become

08-07-2005, 12:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
Zeraph Banned Location: The Cosmos	I'd say yes. My aunt is like me too. Took me awhile to figure out what was going on, and I'm still working on using it to my advantage rather than distancing myself from all emotions. Used to be hard to deal with when I was younger.

08-10-2005, 01:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ronin Tetsuro Upright	There is a difference between being a 'natural' empath and being a 'studied' empath. I used to have to know wen someone was about to beat the crap out of me as a kid, so I became a 'studied' empath. Out of necessity, I became aware of people's emotional states based on body language and vocal cues. But I think there ma be a bit of 'natural' empathy as well, getting shivvers and hard tingles when I see other's wounds, (a lot like the feeling I get between being injured and when the pain actually kicks in) Now if you want to talk clarivoyance....oy. That's a for real thing, and everyone's got the ability, some just ignore it as 'coincidence'. Well, in order for coincidence to occur, there has to be a logical process that would make you choose one outcome as more probable out of the infinite matrix. That kind of calculation would take a while on paper. So what is it in the mind that allows you to do it in seconds? I'll pick a common one that everyone just ignores. How many times have you known who was calling (without called ID) while the phone was still ringing? Remember, kiddies. We only currently use 10-12% of our upper brain functions. __________________ The best stories are the ones I can never tell.

08-10-2005, 01:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
raeanna74 I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot! Location: Upper Michigan	I guess you could say that I am somewhat one. It would pertain to very intense emotions at any rate. To illustrate: I was at college 2 hrs from home. One night I turned into an emotional wreck. I had no idea why. I was weaping, terrified of nothing, had numerous panic attacks and could not sleep. This lasted from about 11:00pm until around 1:00. The next day I got an e-mail. My Dad had been attacked, three ribs broken and the assailant apprehended in the woods and taken to jail by 1:00. It was frightening how clearly my emotions mirrors the upset at home. Clarvoyant, empath, telepathic - I don't care what you call it - I know there was something beyond my normal realm of existence that happened that night. The only problem with this is that it has not been an ongoing thing. Only when intense situation occur do I feel the disturbance myself. __________________ "Always learn the rules so that you can break them properly." Dalai Lama My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

08-10-2005, 06:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	I can read people very well, and I have a knack for understanding their emotional state without being told. I wouldn't say it's paranormal, but it's definitely more than the average person. I think it's possible that brain waves (electromagnetic radiation) can cause other peoples' brains to resonate in the same way that a note played on a stringed instrument will cause a string tuned to the same frequency to vibrate. Some of us may be more sensetive to these resonances, and some may have physical structures better suited to resonating. Nothing supernatural is required, just an unconventional application of standard scientific theory and fact.

08-12-2005, 09:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
Ronin Tetsuro Upright	Deepest apologies, I had no idea. You learn something everyday. __________________ The best stories are the ones I can never tell.

08-14-2005, 09:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
HoneyPot Crazy Location: Nunya	Thanks for sticking up for me Ragbags... I didn't want to think I was going nutty! haha __________________ Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder.

08-17-2005, 08:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
Akaneon Upright	I came, because someone said 'Empath'. Empath to me, being a natural, is a seperation from ordinary humans. I won't stuff your thread, but for anyone who is interested in asking questions, I will be more than happy to let you know why there are empaths, how empaths came to exist, what seperates a real empath from the average 'original' (or, a standard human being). Some people would refer to this type of knowledge as 'schizophrenia'. But for anyone who cares, I'll gladly take you for a walk on the paranormal side. Send me a PM or something.

08-17-2005, 10:16 PM	#22 (permalink)
Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada	Right, so here's how it works. Our emotions are not nearly as internal as we think they are. Lie detectors work based on this fact. Does a lie detector employ some mystical process to tell when an individual is prevaricating? Clearly not - rather it reads such signs as heart rate, blood pressure and moisture levels on the skin to determine if an individual is feeling nervous. With proper training and the right techniques, an individual can correlate this information with a recorded or live interview to determine which statements the interviewee believes to be true and which he or she believes false. Empathy works in the same way. Through either conscious or unconscious study, it's possible to pick up on such indicators as posture, facial expression, speech mannerisms, gesturing and so on to determine an individual's emotional and physical state. These cues are myriad and extremely subtle in nature, down to such things as whteher somebody has one or both hands in their pockets of how their fingers are curled. It's further possible, due to the fallible nature of human memory, to even convince yourself after the fact that you felt a 'vibe' from an individual that you didn't register at the time. This can go so far as to attribute a muscular twinge (which we all get constantly, whether we notice them or not) to 'sympathy pain' with an individual, or even to imagine a pain that wasn't there for the purpose. Am I saying it's impossible that such a mechanism exists? No, of course not. It hasn't been proven either way. I'm simply pointing out that there are much more plausible explanations than some mystical vibe you pick up off of someone. Ronin Tetsuro - I often know who's calling me despite not having caller id. There's nothing otherworldly about this. I know who in my circle of friends and family are likely to call me at given times of day due to work schedules and habits. Further, when I suspect a specific caller is behind that ring and I'm wrong, I don't note it. It's only when I'm right that it seems unusual and registers. It's a bit like the street lamp phenomenon. Got another example of clairvoyance? __________________ I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said - Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame

08-18-2005, 01:29 PM	#23 (permalink)
Akaneon Upright	The ability to sense someones state through cues is not empathic at all. A natural, such as myself, can read the energy waves put out by a specific person and transmit them into experiences that stimulate my existing senses. Adaptive empaths, or non-naturals, are not really empaths at all. They're just street magicians.

10-02-2005, 08:22 PM	#24 (permalink)
Ganggreen Tilted	Telepathy is all fun and games until one of those psycho telepaths show up like in that movie "Scanners" and starts makin' peoples heads blow up just by thinkin' about it.

10-03-2005, 07:12 AM	#25 (permalink)
Kalnaur Psycho Location: Portland, Oregon	Emotion, not really. Pain yes. __________________ PC: Can you help me out here HK? HK-47: I'm 98% percent sure this miniature organic meatbag wants you to help find his fellow miniature organic meatbags. PC: And the other 2 percent? HK-47: The other 2 percent is that he is just looking for trouble and needs to be blasted, but that might be wishful thinking on my part.

10-03-2005, 02:58 PM	#28 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch	Those are 3 examples that are the most recent. Actually, it happens almost daily with about 2-3 of the same people. Picking up moods, etc. and the only one I am in physical contact with is my daughter. At least one of those does it to me as well, almost daily-knows when things are 'off' without any communication. Without total scientific 'proof', I would not expect people who don't got through empathic episodes to understand them. I look at it this way: every thing on this earth, in this universe, is made up of energy, has an energetic metabolism, ie: nothing is static, it is in constant motion of energy. Who's to say what is connected to what this way and who is to say what energies we can or cannot affect and when? As you said, there's the ability to 'read' people by the energies they give off to you-'signs'-so it is quite possible, as I have discovered in my many years, to be affected by the less than obvious energies or 'signs' that another gives. Some call it 'intuition' as well. __________________ Don't blame me. I didn't vote for either of'em.

10-23-2005, 12:34 PM	#30 (permalink)
SERPENT7 Crazy Location: Gold country!	I like to tell people i have psychic powers. Usually just to see how they handle the news. But the truth is there is nothing supernatural about my 'abilities'. I am very smart/perceptive and i trust my intuition. I do not block out the world around me. Ever. Everything i experience becomes a part of my perceptions, and is processed into a 'gestaldt' montage, and truth reveals itself to me. I understrand it for what it is, and act on it. It has been my experience that many other people are most afraid of themselves, and thier own power. Almost as if they do not want to take responsibility for thier own actions, and so deny thier ability to act.