The Death of Paul McCartney - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

warrrreagl · 08-15-2003, 06:40 AM

I'm not TOTALLY vain, so I respect that maybe none of you give a rat's butt about the Paul Is Dead stuff like I do. However, if you have any questions, thoughts, confusions, theories, etc., I'll be glad to tackle them.

Here's the basic core of the story: On November 9, 1966, Paul McCartney was in a fatal car accident. The remaining Beatles and their manager "temporarily" replaced him with a Paul look-alike named William Campbell who was only supposed to pose for pictures and public appearances until they could get it all straightened out. The Beatles were forced to stop touring and performing live at that time, and retreated into the studio for the remainder of their careers. Over the next few years, they infused several clues to the true story about Paul into the lyrics and artwork for their albums.

Hoax, or hoax within a hoax? Were the clues a coincidence or intentional?

nazz · 08-15-2003, 07:01 AM

Here is an elaborate site that has presented its case very thouroughly that Paul was indeed replaced.

Well worth checking out regardless of your opinions on the matter.

http://www.anycities.com/user/uberkinder/

Beltruckus · 08-15-2003, 08:08 AM

It was a publicity Stunt that started out as an accident, then they just went wit it. Give it a rest. There is no way they could have gotten a guy to replace paul and then that guy goes on to be one of the RICHEST musicians EVER, Not going to happen sorry.

rev_skarekroe · 08-15-2003, 11:29 AM

Hm. If William Campell replaced Paul McCartney, he did it on Sgt. Pepper's, The White Album, Abbey Road, and Let It Be.
So why did they even need Paul in the first place?
sk

MSD · 08-15-2003, 10:20 PM

I think the Beatles replaced him for a bit while he took some time off, then he came back, and is still alive. They put all that stuff in because they thought it would be fun to have us all wondering.

John Henry · 08-16-2003, 06:38 AM

Anyone else notice that this leaves the only living Beatle as the most jealous, least-regarded, and least-peace-and-loving Beatle, Ringo Starr. I think we all know what's REALLY going on

Fly · 08-16-2003, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by John Henry
Anyone else notice that this leaves the only living Beatle as the most jealous, least-regarded, and least-peace-and-loving Beatle, Ringo Starr. I think we all know what's REALLY going on

you're............you're not saying it was RINGO are you?

Munku · 08-17-2003, 10:34 AM

So basically, you're saying Paul died in 1966, and was replaced with this guy and they acted like he never died? Now this guy is living his life? And most people just think he never died?

ssander9 · 08-17-2003, 01:51 PM

Paul is alive and well, it was a publicity stunt that was accellerated with the album cover for Abbey Road. Now who could write as well as McCartney? In 1966 there would have been several witnesses to said car accident or the body afterwards. The UK would not have been able to keep a secret like that for very long if he were dead. Watch the Let It Be footage and tell me that's not Paul.
BTW...Elvis is dead, too.

warrrreagl · 08-17-2003, 03:53 PM

I thought I created a post in the Tilted Paranoia section, but I must have mistakenly stumbled into the Tilted Carl Sagan section.

Okay, all together now. Let's sing the chorus of Supertramp's "Logical Song." Nice responses there from all of you junior Mr. Spocks concerning Paul McCartney's death. Very logical, captain.

Haven't any of you folks ever had any fun, before? Sheesh.

I declare my own thread to be dead; killed by incredibly dazzling (and utterly boring) logic.

Munku · 08-17-2003, 05:33 PM

If he didn't die, how come the "fake" mccartney's head is so elongated? Where the original is alot more round.

RoadRage · 08-18-2003, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flyman
you're............you're not saying it was RINGO are you?

…in the library, with the candlestick.

I had heard about this back in 1995, but no one would believe me, especially after I'd gathered information off of that brand new medium, the Internet.

mastboy4 · 08-18-2003, 02:49 PM

omg never heard of this theory i think its hillarious... and NOT TRUE

stazen · 08-18-2003, 05:29 PM

Pictures are pretty convincing... but then I am not a beatles fan so I am not emotionally invested one way or the other

jwoody · 08-21-2003, 06:10 AM

More fuel for the fire...

Last night I watched The Simpsons Haloween special. during the opening credits a few tombstones appear for a brief moment. One of them has Paul McCartney on it.

There's your conclusive proof that he did, in fact, die and was replaced with a look-a-like.

ssander9 · 08-21-2003, 07:44 AM

"November 7th 1969 Life Magazine published an article on the recent "Paul Is Dead" fiasco. The article contained the now famous clues, select album cover photos, and Paul's own brief comments on the death rumors. Life magazine's London correspondent waded through a Scotland bog to find Paul and Linda at their secluded farm, hoping to be granted a photo or a brief interview.
By this time The Beatles had privately broken up. While the breakup was still a secret and would not be announced for months, Paul states: "The Beatle thing is over." The public and press missed the importance of this passing comment.

Life Magazine spoke briefly with Paul about the various "death clues" including the OPD badge on his Pepper suit (which fans took to mean "Officially Pronounced Dead"), his black flower in Magical Mystery Tour, and his barefooted appearance on the Abbey Road album cover.

PAUL: "It is all bloody stupid. I picked up that OPD badge in Canada. It was a police badge. Perhaps it means Ontario Police Department or something. I was wearing a black flower because they ran out of red ones. It is John, not me, dressed in black on the cover and inside of Magical Mystery Tour. On Abbey Road we were wearing our ordinary clothes. I was walking barefoot because it was a hot day. The Volkswagon just happened to be parked there."

"Perhaps the rumor started because I haven't been much in the press lately. I have done enough press for a lifetime, and I don't have anything to say these days. I am happy to be with my family and I will work when I work. I was switched on for ten years and I never switched off. Now I am switching off whenever I can. I would rather be a little less famous these days."

"I would rather do what I began by doing, which is making music. We make good music and we want to go on making good music. But the Beatle thing is over. It has been exploded, partly by what we have done, and partly by other people. We are individuals-- all different. John married Yoko, I married Linda. We didn't marry the same girl."

"The people who are making up these rumors should look to themselves a little more. There is not enough time in life. They should worry about themselves instead of worrying whether I am dead or not."

"What I have to say is all in the music. If I want to say anything I write a song. Can you spread it around that I am just an ordinary person and want to live in peace? We have to go now. We have two children at home.""

08-15-2003, 06:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	The Death of Paul McCartney I'm not TOTALLY vain, so I respect that maybe none of you give a rat's butt about the Paul Is Dead stuff like I do. However, if you have any questions, thoughts, confusions, theories, etc., I'll be glad to tackle them. Here's the basic core of the story: On November 9, 1966, Paul McCartney was in a fatal car accident. The remaining Beatles and their manager "temporarily" replaced him with a Paul look-alike named William Campbell who was only supposed to pose for pictures and public appearances until they could get it all straightened out. The Beatles were forced to stop touring and performing live at that time, and retreated into the studio for the remainder of their careers. Over the next few years, they infused several clues to the true story about Paul into the lyrics and artwork for their albums. Hoax, or hoax within a hoax? Were the clues a coincidence or intentional? __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

08-15-2003, 07:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
nazz Tilted Location: Land Of The Free	Here is an elaborate site that has presented its case very thouroughly that Paul was indeed replaced. Well worth checking out regardless of your opinions on the matter. http://www.anycities.com/user/uberkinder/ __________________ "Take my advice ... don't listen to me."

08-15-2003, 08:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Beltruckus Psycho Location: Salt Lake City	It was a publicity Stunt that started out as an accident, then they just went wit it. Give it a rest. There is no way they could have gotten a guy to replace paul and then that guy goes on to be one of the RICHEST musicians EVER, Not going to happen sorry. __________________ The most important things are the hardest things to say. They are the things you get ashamed of because words diminish your feelings. Words shrink things that seem timeless when they are in your head to no more than living size when they are brought out. -Stephen King

08-15-2003, 11:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
rev_skarekroe Insane Location: Parts Unknown	Hm. If William Campell replaced Paul McCartney, he did it on Sgt. Pepper's, The White Album, Abbey Road, and Let It Be. So why did they even need Paul in the first place? sk __________________ "If I could have one wish, as in the fairy tales, I would unmake my past, and rise like Lazarus and stand in sunlight and banish all the dark." D. Tibet

08-16-2003, 06:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
John Henry Addict Location: Grey Britain	Anyone else notice that this leaves the only living Beatle as the most jealous, least-regarded, and least-peace-and-loving Beatle, Ringo Starr. I think we all know what's REALLY going on __________________ "No one was behaving from very Buddhist motives. Then, thought Pigsy, he was hardly a Buddha, nor was he a monkey. Presently, he was a pig spirit changed into a little girl pretending to be a little boy to be offered to a water monster. It was all very simple to a pig spirit."

08-15-2003, 10:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	I think the Beatles replaced him for a bit while he took some time off, then he came back, and is still alive. They put all that stuff in because they thought it would be fun to have us all wondering.

08-17-2003, 10:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
Munku Lost Location: Florida	So basically, you're saying Paul died in 1966, and was replaced with this guy and they acted like he never died? Now this guy is living his life? And most people just think he never died?

08-17-2003, 01:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
ssander9 Amplitude Modulator Location: US	Paul is alive and well, it was a publicity stunt that was accellerated with the album cover for Abbey Road. Now who could write as well as McCartney? In 1966 there would have been several witnesses to said car accident or the body afterwards. The UK would not have been able to keep a secret like that for very long if he were dead. Watch the Let It Be footage and tell me that's not Paul. BTW...Elvis is dead, too. __________________ I never said you had to.

08-17-2003, 03:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	I thought I created a post in the Tilted Paranoia section, but I must have mistakenly stumbled into the Tilted Carl Sagan section. Okay, all together now. Let's sing the chorus of Supertramp's "Logical Song." Nice responses there from all of you junior Mr. Spocks concerning Paul McCartney's death. Very logical, captain. Haven't any of you folks ever had any fun, before? Sheesh. I declare my own thread to be dead; killed by incredibly dazzling (and utterly boring) logic. __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

08-17-2003, 05:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
Munku Lost Location: Florida	If he didn't die, how come the "fake" mccartney's head is so elongated? Where the original is alot more round.

08-18-2003, 02:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
mastboy4 Crazy Location: Mexico	omg never heard of this theory i think its hillarious... and NOT TRUE __________________ Ignorance Is Bliss

08-18-2003, 05:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
stazen Addict Location: SoCal	Pictures are pretty convincing... but then I am not a beatles fan so I am not emotionally invested one way or the other

08-21-2003, 06:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
jwoody Shackle Me Not Location: Newcastle - England.	More fuel for the fire... Last night I watched The Simpsons Haloween special. during the opening credits a few tombstones appear for a brief moment. One of them has Paul McCartney on it. There's your conclusive proof that he did, in fact, die and was replaced with a look-a-like. __________________ .

08-21-2003, 07:44 AM	#16 (permalink)
ssander9 Amplitude Modulator Location: US	"November 7th 1969 Life Magazine published an article on the recent "Paul Is Dead" fiasco. The article contained the now famous clues, select album cover photos, and Paul's own brief comments on the death rumors. Life magazine's London correspondent waded through a Scotland bog to find Paul and Linda at their secluded farm, hoping to be granted a photo or a brief interview. By this time The Beatles had privately broken up. While the breakup was still a secret and would not be announced for months, Paul states: "The Beatle thing is over." The public and press missed the importance of this passing comment. Life Magazine spoke briefly with Paul about the various "death clues" including the OPD badge on his Pepper suit (which fans took to mean "Officially Pronounced Dead"), his black flower in Magical Mystery Tour, and his barefooted appearance on the Abbey Road album cover. PAUL: "It is all bloody stupid. I picked up that OPD badge in Canada. It was a police badge. Perhaps it means Ontario Police Department or something. I was wearing a black flower because they ran out of red ones. It is John, not me, dressed in black on the cover and inside of Magical Mystery Tour. On Abbey Road we were wearing our ordinary clothes. I was walking barefoot because it was a hot day. The Volkswagon just happened to be parked there." "Perhaps the rumor started because I haven't been much in the press lately. I have done enough press for a lifetime, and I don't have anything to say these days. I am happy to be with my family and I will work when I work. I was switched on for ten years and I never switched off. Now I am switching off whenever I can. I would rather be a little less famous these days." "I would rather do what I began by doing, which is making music. We make good music and we want to go on making good music. But the Beatle thing is over. It has been exploded, partly by what we have done, and partly by other people. We are individuals-- all different. John married Yoko, I married Linda. We didn't marry the same girl." "The people who are making up these rumors should look to themselves a little more. There is not enough time in life. They should worry about themselves instead of worrying whether I am dead or not." "What I have to say is all in the music. If I want to say anything I write a song. Can you spread it around that I am just an ordinary person and want to live in peace? We have to go now. We have two children at home."" __________________ I never said you had to. Last edited by ssander9; 08-21-2003 at 01:49 PM..