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BentNotTwisted · 06-10-2003, 08:40 AM

Is any else bothered by the fact that crop circles, supposedly made by aliens, seem to be made only in fields of easily bent grains? In England they have appeared if fields of wheat, rape, oat, and barley. If these circles are being made by some advanced alien civilization why not create them in something sturdier like sunflowers or corn? Heck why not make 'tree' circles in a stand of trees?! I've been trying to find examples on the internet which refute my argument and haven't found any yet.

If you saw the movie Signs where corn crops were bent this was a mistake in the filming. Apparently when researching the film the, um, researchers were told by nice English folk the circles were made in corn. Well in England all grain crops are referred to as corn.

SecretMethod70 · 06-10-2003, 08:45 AM

Crop circles have long been uncovered as a hoax. People choose to still believe for whatever reason - but people have admitted to creating them in the night (not the owners of the crops). They basically just make a little contraption with a board of wood and stomp the crops down.

spectre · 06-10-2003, 08:45 AM

LINK
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"Crop Circles ... or just Crap Circles ?"

At August 22, 2001 - the speakers at Radio DR-Syd suddently interrupted their news program - connecting directly to their field reporter standing at this expected UFO landing site close to Sønderborg. .

Previous to this on location Radio Broadcast - several crop circle enthusiasts had phoned both TV, Radio and Newspapers.
As we however did reveal during this radio transmission - this cropcircle is not of extra terrestrial origin.

This circle was simply constructed as an experiment by astronomy students at Amtsgymnasiet in Sonderborg - following a request from the children program called "Bugs Bunny's Sundays Club", National TV2.

Before start - the farmer who owned these fields had given TV2 his accept.

Why this particular pattern ?

We did choose this circle - because it has appeared once before in our country - close to the city Aarhus - August 2000. :

However - as we demonstrate in this TV Programme - it took these eager astronomy students merely 1,5 hour to construct the basic circle of same size. Next time we could do this even faster. Actually - our students have now initiated their own company - Danish Crop Circle Central
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Sorry, they're fake, that's why.

SecretMethod70 · 06-10-2003, 08:48 AM

This site which I just googled up provides some interesting information, including what appears to be some pretty detailed information about how they're made:

http://www.circlemakers.org/

oscar0308 · 06-10-2003, 08:56 AM

i heard along time ago that they'd been an admitted hoax.. which was why i was dumbfounded when some program came on the TV a few months ago discussing the evidence refuting that. they had guys doing analysis's of the soil and stuff reporting how the molecular or something had changed.

i sat there shaking my head.

Tirian · 06-10-2003, 09:01 AM

Here's a couple of links...

http://www.circlemakers.org/guide.html
http://www.amtsgym-sdbg.dk/as/crop/ufofake.HTM
http://www.circlemakers.org/totc2002.html
http://skepdic.com/cropcirc.html
http://www.actolm.com/cropcircles/

The_Dude · 06-10-2003, 11:20 AM

i personally think they're hoaxes w/ no truth attached.

BentNotTwisted · 06-10-2003, 11:39 AM

Sorry my first post wasn't clear, I meant I had been trying to find crop circles on the internet made out of something more dense than grain crops and have not had any luck. I too think it's a lot of bunk. It amazes me that anyone would spend good money researching something like this.

Atanvarno · 06-10-2003, 01:26 PM

I read somewhere about some giant rock circles on some plateau in South America (I think) that were so large that nobody actually recognized there was a pattern of any sort until air/satelite photos came along ...

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Originally posted by BentNotTwisted
Apparently when researching the film the, um, researchers were told by nice English folk the circles were made in corn. Well in England all grain crops are referred to as corn.

Grmmm .. they're not the only ones ... FotR anyone?

Tom Thumb · 06-10-2003, 02:52 PM

Some people are really attached to the thought of there being something "out there," I guess.

But, yeah, I thought they were proven to be a hoax months ago.

Frowning Budah · 06-10-2003, 02:56 PM

It is like magic, you know it is fake but it can be real entertaining if it is done right.

Meridae'n · 06-10-2003, 04:44 PM

I remember watching one documentry on them and this one bloke tried to translate the designs into musical notes and decipher the message. All he got was a really fucking annoying highpitched whistle...

YourNeverThere · 06-10-2003, 11:58 PM

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Originally posted by Meridae'n
I remember watching one documentry on them and this one bloke tried to translate the designs into musical notes and decipher the message. All he got was a really fucking annoying highpitched whistle...

yeah, scientist do that all the time, and the all get the same stupid highpitched noice,.

anyway, has anyone ever tried making a crop circle? it take for fucking ever, so stupid, anyway, ya there fake, and not really that entertaing over all.

stazen · 06-11-2003, 10:33 AM

I have to disagree. There have been a few admitted hoaxers, who have documented their methods and even allowed the media to observe the actual creation of a crop circle.

However, the hundreds of formations that occur every year, and the global distribution of said formations, leads me to believe that not all could be manmade.

There are many documented anomolies associated with this phenomenon.

Manmade?

http://www.swirlednews.com/crop.asp

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How many appear?

Around 250 crop designs around the world appear each year on average. Figures vary slightly from year to year, up and down. Several thousand have been documented since records began.

Where do they appear?

Crop circles are a global phenomenon, but predominantly appear in the Northern Hemisphere, with southern England as the main centre of activity, particularly Wiltshire. England has played host to around two-thirds of the recorded formations so far, but places as diverse as Germany, Canada, North America, The Netherlands, The Czech Republic and Russia, to name but a few, have also recorded many appearances.

What crops do they appear in?

Any crop can be a potential target for the phenomenon: wheat, barley and oilseed rape (canola) are the most common in England, being the main varieties grown, but they have also been reported in rye, oats, flax, peas, potatoes, sweetcorn maize and many other mediums, including rice paddies in Japan. Formations have also been found in wild grass, bracken and other undergrowth-type plants.

Theories and Evidence

...most other popular explanations for the crop circles have revolved around human activity, either involving satellite technology or, more usually, the simple actions of pranksters and landscape artists. However, in demonstrations, human teams have struggled to reproduce designs as geometrically complex as many seen in the fields or have taken long hours to produce anything approaching them. Certain formations have been shown to have appeared within very short periods of time and the geometrical calculation and construction required for some simply could not be carried out in one night. Biological anomalies and unreproducable effects such as nodal bending (where the 'knuckles' on stems are bent at strange angles to effect certain shapes in the lay) are always absent from man-made designs.

Some of the patterns have shown breathtaking symbolic qualities. In 1994, for instance, several galaxy-shaped glyphs displayed a conjunction of planets over the star constellation Cetus as it would be in April 2000, and in 1995 an accurate diagram of the Earth's inner solar system was discovered. However, despite these few shapes which appear to denote dates and astronomical conjunctions, most others remain obscure and are open to interpretation, seeming to reflect multi-cultural symbolism.

Work by laboratories on circle-affected crop has shown biological changes taking place at a cellular level, suggesting the involvement of microwave energy. Other physical tests have shown anomalies not yet replicated by man-made experiments. These, together with the lights, eye-witness accounts, reports of malfunctioning electronic equipment and health effects on people visiting circles, suggest the phenomenon should be looked at far more closely.

DueceBiggalow · 06-11-2003, 11:42 AM

signs is the stupidest movie i ever saw

Craven Morehead · 06-11-2003, 01:58 PM

When I woke up this morning there was something resembling a crop circle in my hair. After I showered it was gone! What should I do?

Hope I wasn't anal probed.

spived2 · 06-11-2003, 01:58 PM

I personnally think crop circles are interesting. Even if they are fake, there are some really cool designs out there and the fact that there are so many of them all around the world is pretty intriguing.

I remember watching this show on tv a while back that tried to show a hovering ball of light was responsible for them. They even tried to show the ball of light came from a secret military helicoptor or something. Why would the military want to make designs in fields?

End User · 06-11-2003, 08:03 PM

I believe that some of them are too geometrically perfect for a group of humans to construct, unless they had great surveying skills or something. I dont think these beautiful designs could be created by bob the farmer and his plank of wood on a stick.
And why is there never a picture of a 1/2 completed crop circle pattern? Could it be that they indeed are created instantaneously by Alien UFO's?

stazen · 06-12-2003, 09:05 AM

You bring up some very good points End User. These designs are incredibly complex, extend accross huge areas of the land and contain little to no mistakes.
I find it hard to believe that a group of people, in the middle of the night, would be able to construct such elaborate figures without error. Even if it were possible, why don't these incredible artists lay claim to thier work? I know that if I were able to make such a thing, I would be showing it off to as many people as possible.
Along with the biological anomolies, many of these figures contain geometrically significant features.
This one was discovered June 7th 2003

http://www.lovely.clara.net/hawkinsb.html

Soothe · 06-13-2003, 01:17 AM

I don't know about you but that image looks like it has been digitally created, it just doesn't look real. Notice how the 2 track lines still show up through the bent wheat crop. If the wheat crop was bent in a circular formation like how it usually is done, you wouldn't see tracks because the crops would be covering it. If someone can prove me wrong by showing me more simple designs that confirmed to be made by humans with track marks that go through it and through the rest of the crop field I will shut up

I know a few people who could easily pull that off in photoshop, looks can be decieving and you really shouldn't trust anything that claims to be something amazing on the internet.

Also, if Extra Terrarstrials have such high intelligence and sophisticated technology that enables them to fly billions of lightyears to visit this wasteland we call Earth, why would they just hover around and create geometric figures and pretty little star paterns in easily bent grain? Why don't they lazer etch patterns in something more convincing like stone or treetops. They are limited to carving stuff in grain even though they are capable of reaching light speed? Right... Why not blow up the White House or do something cool, I mean come on.

Osafune · 06-13-2003, 03:57 AM

Well, soothe alot of people theorize that crop circles are sort of like ET's version of saying "Hey, i can see you, and i'm just saying 'Hi!'".

Another theory is that it's a form of test....or, more accurately, it's a pop quiz with a reward at the end. Alot of people think that the images have a common thread, and they are being given to use to solve...like a puzzle. Think "Contact" the movie.

They're giving us instructions, and we just have to figure out a way to decipher them.

...

Of course, I don't know about that kinda crap. I just smile and nod and wait paitently until i can see rock solid proof in my face.

Please be nice....this is my first post, and i'm also an idiot...

stazen · 06-13-2003, 09:23 AM

Soothe, if you look closely, you can see that the formation you posted is not the only one that shows the tram lines.
I am almost certain that these images are real photographs, because I have seen a couple of these patterns from other angles, in other photos. I've even seen one of them on a TV program about crop formations (not a still photo, video).

As to why the would choose grain as a medium of communication I don't know. Maybe it is a way of slowly introducing us to the idea that there is indeed other intelligence 'out there', while still allowing those that can't/won't believe it to say, 'well it's obviously human made' and go back to reading the bible. People could say the same thing with stone if you think about it... As to how they would carve something in treetops, well you got me there

Why don't they just land on the whitehouse lawn you could ask? Could you imagine the reaction that would produce in millions of people around the world? People would have their entire belief system turned on it's head on an instant. By slowly introducing the idea, the impact might not be as extreme.

Soothe · 06-13-2003, 12:27 PM

Well I'm not saying that I don't believe that Aliens aren't observing us and writting encrypted messages in our crops. Maybe it is a sort of IQ test to see if we are smart enough for them to make contact with us, I dunno. But all evidence of their exsistance can easily be proved wrong because it can be done by humans. Also most people who reported to have been abducted by aliens suffer from Sleep Paralysis which basicaly is waking up in the state of a deep dream and your body and mind are not totally back to reality but still in the subconcious. You are unable to move, paralysed because your body doesn't know it's awake and you are still projecting REM visuals and experiancing surreal situations. Your basicaly caught between the two realms of consciousness and your experiance your nightmares/dreams first hand like a bad trip. You might have demons attack you in bed, white light and a visit from aliens, a giant praying mantis doing the YMCA dance, etc.

For me to totally believe in something I need 100% proof. I think it is ignorant for people to think there ISN'T Aliens because we don't know, the universe is infinant and you would be closeminded to think that there might not be something out there. But the same thing goes for people who actually think they exsist and spend all their time flying over here and hovering based on crop circles and abductions that seem to only occur to hicks and people that suffer from mental disabilities and sleeping disabilites. Me, I think there is probably some life out there, maybe just single celled organisms crawling around.

Fly · 06-14-2003, 08:02 AM

they're heeeeerrrrrrrrreeeeeee...................

striderkevin · 08-03-2003, 01:06 PM

I thought that everyone knew that crop circles are made by human hands...

cj2112 · 08-03-2003, 01:56 PM

I suppose that the "aliens" that created this one want us all to drive minivans???????

anti fishstick · 08-05-2003, 12:07 AM

hahaha back when signs was still in theatres and being promoted, entertainment tonight or whatever did a little clip on how there was a crop circle in small town, oregon. that's my hometown. and i knew the hoaxers. one of them was my ex :P i feel special. heh.

jhericurl21 · 08-05-2003, 03:42 PM

have u guys seen that video where u can see a ufo flying over a cropfield and then all the sudden circles being forming under the ufo? Can anyone provide any info on that incident?

Blazin · 08-05-2003, 05:34 PM

crop circles are made using a piece of wood with a rope coming out of each end. if you put the board on the bottom of your foot, hold a rope in each hand, and carefully put pressure on a stalk of corn, it will bend to a 90 degree angle. Crop circles are a hoax, they take around 4 hours to make...

they look real cool though, if i had a cornfield, i'd put crop circles all over the place.

fosho · 08-06-2003, 09:46 AM

I have watched a pretty detailed show about the crop circle hoax (I believe it was on the History Channel). Anyway, they did time-lapse photography of a team of around 4 people making one, and it only took 5 hours or so. And it was a HUGE crop circle, and a very complex one as well.

BentNotTwisted · 08-06-2003, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by jhericurl21
have u guys seen that video where u can see a ufo flying over a cropfield and then all the sudden circles being forming under the ufo? Can anyone provide any info on that incident?

I seem to remember seeing this clip sometime, can't remember exactly where. I thought it was refuted as a hoax and someone had done some video editing to make it look real. Anyone else remember this?

jujueye · 08-06-2003, 02:19 PM

I sure wish I could believe this. But I just cannot. Yes, the designs are wonderful, but do humans really sleep that heavily? I know if something that huge landed near my home, I'd hear it and be up in a flash with a "what the fuck?" on my breath. It seems far more likely that stealthy late-nighters with a penchant for mysteriousness are more likely culprits. Otherwise, we shoudl ask them "why are you drawing on our planet?

BentNotTwisted · 08-06-2003, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by jujueye
I sure wish I could believe this. But I just cannot. Yes, the designs are wonderful, but do humans really sleep that heavily? I know if something that huge landed near my home, I'd hear it and be up in a flash with a "what the fuck?" on my breath. It seems far more likely that stealthy late-nighters with a penchant for mysteriousness are more likely culprits. Otherwise, we shoudl ask them "why are you drawing on our planet?

Playing Devils Advocate I would think that if some alien race had the technology to travel hundreds or more light years they would have some kind of stealth mode.
Personally, I would like to see the hoaxters spell out some kind of message saying, 'We're here and listening, what do you want? And SPEAK ENGLISH!'

drawerfixer · 08-06-2003, 04:13 PM

My reasoning is if other beings in the universe can only come up with circles in our grain fields, I don't really want to deal with them. :P

jujueye · 08-14-2003, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by BentNotTwisted
Playing Devils Advocate I would think that if some alien race had the technology to travel hundreds or more light years they would have some kind of stealth mode.

That's what I'm talkin about! Why are we supposed to believe that the bottom of these "ships" are so eloquently designed that they would not leave big, nasty burn marks when they leave? Geez, I would expect that maybe all the forest fires that get started would be caused by aliens and not some idiot and his campfire.

MikeyChalupa · 08-15-2003, 06:37 AM

I can't believe there are people that still think these things are created by anything other than late-night pranksters.

"Signs" would have done even better had it been released BEFORE it was common knowledge that crop circles are a hoax.

-Mikey

TheKak · 08-15-2003, 08:42 AM

I blame GWB for crop circles.

Beltruckus · 08-15-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by drawerfixer
My reasoning is if other beings in the universe can only come up with circles in our grain fields, I don't really want to deal with them. :P

Completely agree with this statement. Just in case though i'm going to keep glasses with water in them all around my house.

BentNotTwisted · 08-15-2003, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by Beltruckus
Just in case though i'm going to keep glasses with water in them all around my house.

The end of that movie pissed me off soooo much. Imagine if humans decided to colonize a world where all fluid on the surface: oceans, river, lakes, streams, and even what the inhabitants drank was made of sulphuric acid. We would be idiots, which is what the screenplay writers for Signs were.
/rant

Beltruckus · 08-15-2003, 10:47 AM

They weren't there for Colonizing, they were there to take Water based creatures as slaves or something.

Problem with that is, they won't be able to keep us alive very long to make us work w/out water, whoops.

06-10-2003, 08:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
BentNotTwisted Optimistic Skeptic Location: Midway between a Beehive and Centennial	Crop circles made of... Is any else bothered by the fact that crop circles, supposedly made by aliens, seem to be made only in fields of easily bent grains? In England they have appeared if fields of wheat, rape, oat, and barley. If these circles are being made by some advanced alien civilization why not create them in something sturdier like sunflowers or corn? Heck why not make 'tree' circles in a stand of trees?! I've been trying to find examples on the internet which refute my argument and haven't found any yet. If you saw the movie Signs where corn crops were bent this was a mistake in the filming. Apparently when researching the film the, um, researchers were told by nice English folk the circles were made in corn. Well in England all grain crops are referred to as corn. __________________ IS THAT IT ???!!! Do you even know what 'it' is? When the last man dies for just words that he said... We Shall Be Free

06-10-2003, 08:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Crop circles have long been uncovered as a hoax. People choose to still believe for whatever reason - but people have admitted to creating them in the night (not the owners of the crops). They basically just make a little contraption with a board of wood and stomp the crops down. __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling

06-10-2003, 08:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
spectre Junkie	LINK <hr> "Crop Circles ... or just Crap Circles ?" At August 22, 2001 - the speakers at Radio DR-Syd suddently interrupted their news program - connecting directly to their field reporter standing at this expected UFO landing site close to Sønderborg. . Previous to this on location Radio Broadcast - several crop circle enthusiasts had phoned both TV, Radio and Newspapers. As we however did reveal during this radio transmission - this cropcircle is not of extra terrestrial origin. This circle was simply constructed as an experiment by astronomy students at Amtsgymnasiet in Sonderborg - following a request from the children program called "Bugs Bunny's Sundays Club", National TV2. Before start - the farmer who owned these fields had given TV2 his accept. Why this particular pattern ? We did choose this circle - because it has appeared once before in our country - close to the city Aarhus - August 2000. : However - as we demonstrate in this TV Programme - it took these eager astronomy students merely 1,5 hour to construct the basic circle of same size. Next time we could do this even faster. Actually - our students have now initiated their own company - Danish Crop Circle Central <hr> Sorry, they're fake, that's why. __________________ "Fuck these chains No goddamn slave I will be different" ~ Machine Head

06-10-2003, 08:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	This site which I just googled up provides some interesting information, including what appears to be some pretty detailed information about how they're made: http://www.circlemakers.org/ __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling Last edited by SecretMethod70; 06-10-2003 at 08:56 AM..

06-10-2003, 11:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	i personally think they're hoaxes w/ no truth attached. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

06-10-2003, 08:56 AM	#5 (permalink)
oscar0308 Crazy Location: New England	i heard along time ago that they'd been an admitted hoax.. which was why i was dumbfounded when some program came on the TV a few months ago discussing the evidence refuting that. they had guys doing analysis's of the soil and stuff reporting how the molecular or something had changed. i sat there shaking my head.

06-10-2003, 09:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tirian Addict Location: Canada	Here's a couple of links... http://www.circlemakers.org/guide.html http://www.amtsgym-sdbg.dk/as/crop/ufofake.HTM http://www.circlemakers.org/totc2002.html http://skepdic.com/cropcirc.html http://www.actolm.com/cropcircles/

06-10-2003, 11:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
BentNotTwisted Optimistic Skeptic Location: Midway between a Beehive and Centennial	Sorry my first post wasn't clear, I meant I had been trying to find crop circles on the internet made out of something more dense than grain crops and have not had any luck. I too think it's a lot of bunk. It amazes me that anyone would spend good money researching something like this. __________________ IS THAT IT ???!!! Do you even know what 'it' is? When the last man dies for just words that he said... We Shall Be Free

06-10-2003, 02:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tom Thumb Crazy Location: In a self portrait	Some people are really attached to the thought of there being something "out there," I guess. But, yeah, I thought they were proven to be a hoax months ago. __________________ My name is marketing. Now buy my product.

06-10-2003, 02:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
Frowning Budah Slave of Fear	It is like magic, you know it is fake but it can be real entertaining if it is done right.

06-10-2003, 04:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Meridae'n Loose Cunt Location: North Bondi RSL	I remember watching one documentry on them and this one bloke tried to translate the designs into musical notes and decipher the message. All he got was a really fucking annoying highpitched whistle... __________________ What's easier to believe: that a guy was born without sex in the manner of several Greek demigods and grew up to be able to transmute liquids and alter his body density yet couldn't escape government execution, or that three freemasons in a vehicle made with aluminum foil in an era before digital technology escaped our atmosphere, landing on the moon, broadcasted from there, and then flew back without burning up?

06-11-2003, 11:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
DueceBiggalow Upright	signs is the stupidest movie i ever saw

06-11-2003, 01:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	When I woke up this morning there was something resembling a crop circle in my hair. After I showered it was gone! What should I do? Hope I wasn't anal probed.

06-11-2003, 01:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
spived2 Desert Rat Location: Arizona	I personnally think crop circles are interesting. Even if they are fake, there are some really cool designs out there and the fact that there are so many of them all around the world is pretty intriguing. I remember watching this show on tv a while back that tried to show a hovering ball of light was responsible for them. They even tried to show the ball of light came from a secret military helicoptor or something. Why would the military want to make designs in fields? __________________ "This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V." - V

06-11-2003, 08:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
End User Insane Location: Sydney, Australia	I believe that some of them are too geometrically perfect for a group of humans to construct, unless they had great surveying skills or something. I dont think these beautiful designs could be created by bob the farmer and his plank of wood on a stick. And why is there never a picture of a 1/2 completed crop circle pattern? Could it be that they indeed are created instantaneously by Alien UFO's? __________________ People who have no faults are terrible!

06-14-2003, 08:02 AM	#24 (permalink)
Fly see the links to my music? Location: Beautiful British Columbia	they're heeeeerrrrrrrrreeeeeee................... __________________ BASTARD SterlingStudios

06-12-2003, 09:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
stazen Addict Location: SoCal	You bring up some very good points End User. These designs are incredibly complex, extend accross huge areas of the land and contain little to no mistakes. I find it hard to believe that a group of people, in the middle of the night, would be able to construct such elaborate figures without error. Even if it were possible, why don't these incredible artists lay claim to thier work? I know that if I were able to make such a thing, I would be showing it off to as many people as possible. Along with the biological anomolies, many of these figures contain geometrically significant features. This one was discovered June 7th 2003 http://www.lovely.clara.net/hawkinsb.html Last edited by stazen; 06-12-2003 at 09:31 AM..

06-13-2003, 01:17 AM	#20 (permalink)
Soothe Upright	I don't know about you but that image looks like it has been digitally created, it just doesn't look real. Notice how the 2 track lines still show up through the bent wheat crop. If the wheat crop was bent in a circular formation like how it usually is done, you wouldn't see tracks because the crops would be covering it. If someone can prove me wrong by showing me more simple designs that confirmed to be made by humans with track marks that go through it and through the rest of the crop field I will shut up I know a few people who could easily pull that off in photoshop, looks can be decieving and you really shouldn't trust anything that claims to be something amazing on the internet. Also, if Extra Terrarstrials have such high intelligence and sophisticated technology that enables them to fly billions of lightyears to visit this wasteland we call Earth, why would they just hover around and create geometric figures and pretty little star paterns in easily bent grain? Why don't they lazer etch patterns in something more convincing like stone or treetops. They are limited to carving stuff in grain even though they are capable of reaching light speed? Right... Why not blow up the White House or do something cool, I mean come on.

06-13-2003, 03:57 AM	#21 (permalink)
Osafune Upright Location: Texas	Well, soothe alot of people theorize that crop circles are sort of like ET's version of saying "Hey, i can see you, and i'm just saying 'Hi!'". Another theory is that it's a form of test....or, more accurately, it's a pop quiz with a reward at the end. Alot of people think that the images have a common thread, and they are being given to use to solve...like a puzzle. Think "Contact" the movie. They're giving us instructions, and we just have to figure out a way to decipher them. ... Of course, I don't know about that kinda crap. I just smile and nod and wait paitently until i can see rock solid proof in my face. Please be nice....this is my first post, and i'm also an idiot...

06-13-2003, 09:23 AM	#22 (permalink)
stazen Addict Location: SoCal	Soothe, if you look closely, you can see that the formation you posted is not the only one that shows the tram lines. I am almost certain that these images are real photographs, because I have seen a couple of these patterns from other angles, in other photos. I've even seen one of them on a TV program about crop formations (not a still photo, video). As to why the would choose grain as a medium of communication I don't know. Maybe it is a way of slowly introducing us to the idea that there is indeed other intelligence 'out there', while still allowing those that can't/won't believe it to say, 'well it's obviously human made' and go back to reading the bible. People could say the same thing with stone if you think about it... As to how they would carve something in treetops, well you got me there Why don't they just land on the whitehouse lawn you could ask? Could you imagine the reaction that would produce in millions of people around the world? People would have their entire belief system turned on it's head on an instant. By slowly introducing the idea, the impact might not be as extreme.

06-13-2003, 12:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
Soothe Upright	Well I'm not saying that I don't believe that Aliens aren't observing us and writting encrypted messages in our crops. Maybe it is a sort of IQ test to see if we are smart enough for them to make contact with us, I dunno. But all evidence of their exsistance can easily be proved wrong because it can be done by humans. Also most people who reported to have been abducted by aliens suffer from Sleep Paralysis which basicaly is waking up in the state of a deep dream and your body and mind are not totally back to reality but still in the subconcious. You are unable to move, paralysed because your body doesn't know it's awake and you are still projecting REM visuals and experiancing surreal situations. Your basicaly caught between the two realms of consciousness and your experiance your nightmares/dreams first hand like a bad trip. You might have demons attack you in bed, white light and a visit from aliens, a giant praying mantis doing the YMCA dance, etc. For me to totally believe in something I need 100% proof. I think it is ignorant for people to think there ISN'T Aliens because we don't know, the universe is infinant and you would be closeminded to think that there might not be something out there. But the same thing goes for people who actually think they exsist and spend all their time flying over here and hovering based on crop circles and abductions that seem to only occur to hicks and people that suffer from mental disabilities and sleeping disabilites. Me, I think there is probably some life out there, maybe just single celled organisms crawling around. Last edited by Soothe; 06-13-2003 at 12:32 PM..

08-03-2003, 01:06 PM	#25 (permalink)
striderkevin Crazy Location: Can't tell you, then I'd have to kill you.	I thought that everyone knew that crop circles are made by human hands... __________________ "A false life is equal to death. Be your true self" -Strider Hiryu

08-03-2003, 01:56 PM	#26 (permalink)
cj2112 Unbelievable Location: Grants Pass OR	I suppose that the "aliens" that created this one want us all to drive minivans???????

08-05-2003, 12:07 AM	#27 (permalink)
anti fishstick Post-modernism meets Individualism AKA the Clash Location: oregon	hahaha back when signs was still in theatres and being promoted, entertainment tonight or whatever did a little clip on how there was a crop circle in small town, oregon. that's my hometown. and i knew the hoaxers. one of them was my ex :P i feel special. heh. __________________ And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. ~Anais Nin

08-05-2003, 03:42 PM	#28 (permalink)
jhericurl21 Banned	have u guys seen that video where u can see a ufo flying over a cropfield and then all the sudden circles being forming under the ufo? Can anyone provide any info on that incident?

08-05-2003, 05:34 PM	#29 (permalink)
Blazin Upright	crop circles are made using a piece of wood with a rope coming out of each end. if you put the board on the bottom of your foot, hold a rope in each hand, and carefully put pressure on a stalk of corn, it will bend to a 90 degree angle. Crop circles are a hoax, they take around 4 hours to make... they look real cool though, if i had a cornfield, i'd put crop circles all over the place. __________________ Curiosity didnt kill the cat, curiosity made the kittens.

08-06-2003, 09:46 AM	#30 (permalink)
fosho Upright	I have watched a pretty detailed show about the crop circle hoax (I believe it was on the History Channel). Anyway, they did time-lapse photography of a team of around 4 people making one, and it only took 5 hours or so. And it was a HUGE crop circle, and a very complex one as well.

08-06-2003, 02:19 PM	#32 (permalink)
jujueye alpaca lunch for the trip Location: in my computer	I sure wish I could believe this. But I just cannot. Yes, the designs are wonderful, but do humans really sleep that heavily? I know if something that huge landed near my home, I'd hear it and be up in a flash with a "what the fuck?" on my breath. It seems far more likely that stealthy late-nighters with a penchant for mysteriousness are more likely culprits. Otherwise, we shoudl ask them "why are you drawing on our planet?

08-06-2003, 04:13 PM	#34 (permalink)
drawerfixer Stonerific Location: Colorado	My reasoning is if other beings in the universe can only come up with circles in our grain fields, I don't really want to deal with them. :P __________________ They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

08-15-2003, 06:37 AM	#36 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	I can't believe there are people that still think these things are created by anything other than late-night pranksters. "Signs" would have done even better had it been released BEFORE it was common knowledge that crop circles are a hoax. -Mikey

08-15-2003, 08:42 AM	#37 (permalink)
TheKak Insane Location: Virginia	I blame GWB for crop circles. __________________ Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I.

08-15-2003, 10:47 AM	#40 (permalink)
Beltruckus Psycho Location: Salt Lake City	They weren't there for Colonizing, they were there to take Water based creatures as slaves or something. Problem with that is, they won't be able to keep us alive very long to make us work w/out water, whoops. __________________ The most important things are the hardest things to say. They are the things you get ashamed of because words diminish your feelings. Words shrink things that seem timeless when they are in your head to no more than living size when they are brought out. -Stephen King