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monster · 05-09-2003, 09:01 PM

what do you think?

degrawj · 05-09-2003, 11:49 PM

i think they would have been great, but not the greatest. they did have a lot going for them though, except for that whole alcoholic thing.

bullgoose · 05-10-2003, 11:38 AM

Okay, this is a toughie; I was in my late teens/early20's when the Doors were popular- I hated 'em; fast-forward 20 years, everytime I heard "Light my fire" it was like the theme song for the '60's (in the best possible sense) Jim Morrison was a self-destructive genius, a card carrying nut case that was headed down the road to oblivion quite a while before the Doors ever existed; but the son of a bitch sure could write lyrics. I THINK at this point, the Doors are assured of a page in the "Big Book of Rock'n'Roll", but who the hell knows; I've heard for years Morrison is alive and living in Tunisea, maybe they'll all get together for a reunion.
BTW: I used to have a vinyl bootleg made in Italy that had two cuts with Jimi Hendrix playing and Morrison doing vocals; if you ever see "F.H.I.T.A." or "Look down on my Woman" on a file-sharing site, they're legit, D/L 'em.

Lebell · 05-10-2003, 12:06 PM

I have to go with degrawj.

The Doors are a great group, with or without Jim Morrison dying, but they never would rate as the greatest group, IMO.

That honor would go to the Beatles or Stones.

bullgoose · 05-10-2003, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lebell
I have to go with degrawj.

The Doors are a great group, with or without Jim Morrison dying, but they never would rate as the greatest group, IMO.

That honor would go to the Beatles or Stones.

WEEEELLLLL.....I don't know. I didn't mean to imply that the Doors sucked or anything; a lot of the stuff that they did was really good; the thing is, no one remembers that Krieger was a terrific guitarist, or that Manzarik could make a Hammond sing; all most people remember is Morrison acting like a psychotic fool, an it's too bad that the Doors will be remembered for contriversy, not the quality of their music.
BTW: Beatles, maybe; Stones, NO FUCKIN' WAY!!

perripken · 05-11-2003, 07:36 AM

Even though the doors recorded some of my favorites, I certainly wouldn 't consider them the greatest. I like alot of their songs, but not all of them. I have to agree with Lebell, you have to look at the Beatles, who to everyone is a household name. My personal favorite Doors tune was definately "Peace Frog" (maybe and idea for a new thread? hmmmm...)

bullgoose · 05-11-2003, 09:59 AM

The problem with a thread like this is that you don't have a valid comparison; it's really difficult to judge the music of the Doors without the controversy that Morrison caused. I could never call the Doors the greatest R&R band- they're just not; they may not even be a significant R&R band; compitent, yes, great, maybe the best, NO!
My vote for the most IMPORTANT Rock & Roll entity (band or individual) would have to be a tie between Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly; it's been said that if Buddy Holly had lived, the Beatles would never have made the splash they did; I believe that, Buddy was just getting started when he ied.

dankitti · 05-11-2003, 06:08 PM

the doors were at their best when they did these epic performance pieces like The Soft Parace, Celebration Of The Lizard, The End, and When The Music's Over. jim brought poetry and philosophy to rock & roll.

BulletBob · 05-11-2003, 07:08 PM

The doors are good but not even close to the greatest band ever. Good stoner music though.

Tophat665 · 05-11-2003, 07:23 PM

I like the Doors a great deal. Jim was a fine lyricist, and all the other fellow in the group were (and remain) fine musicians, however, they are not the greatest, though they belong in any top hundred list, probably in the top 10 or 20.

If we're just talking rock and roll, Stones over Beatles. If pop music counts, Beatles over Stones. IMHO, King Crimson over either of them, but I'm odd that way,

Craven Morehead · 05-11-2003, 09:40 PM

The Doors were great enough to stand the test of time. Their music holds up today in many ways better than when it was recorded. Much of how the Doors are preceived is based on Morrison's mystique. Had he not been on a collision course with self demolition the Doors woudn't have been what they were. Hence, had he lived the Doors wouldn't be what we think they could have been, if any of that makes sense......

rideough · 05-19-2003, 05:27 AM

I'm a huge Doors fan but Jim was an asshole!
musically they are brilliant musicians and song writers.
Still can't get American Prayer out of my car stereo.
Its awesome!!

RAMONES!!! · 05-19-2003, 05:29 PM

well i'll be seeing them May 23rd

fienna · 05-20-2003, 07:08 AM

the doors, although i really liked them, only really gained the status they have now through jim morrisons death. if he had lived, they would have about the same status as the monkeys and peter, paul, & mary do now - respected, but not revered by any means.

dankitti · 05-22-2003, 07:49 AM

it's really interesting that the musical lineup of the ddoors never sounds dated, just drums, guitar and keyboards. technology introduced in the 70s and 80s sounds dated after awhile, like the cheesy 80s synths. but the basic band lineup will live forever. that's rock & roll!

holtmate · 05-22-2003, 10:26 AM

The Doors were a great band, and there music still holds up...but I don't think they would have ever been the greatest...anyways, Morrison had to destroy himself. If he hadn't had that self-destructive urge, the music would not have been the same, IMO.

Lebell · 05-22-2003, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tophat665
If we're just talking rock and roll, Stones over Beatles. If pop music counts, Beatles over Stones. IMHO, King Crimson over either of them, but I'm odd that way,

King Crimson? No way man. He's got some good shit, but over the BEATLES???

h2ogo69 · 05-22-2003, 03:48 PM

the doors are the greatest rock/ blues band ever, led zeppelin would be the greatest rock and roll band though

RAMONES!!! · 05-24-2003, 06:05 AM

saw them last night, and let me tell you, they kicked ass, their lead singer looked and sounded like Jim, it was awesome!

Glory's Sun · 05-26-2003, 06:04 PM

The Doors rock and they were good but I wouldn't label them as the best even if Morrison had stayed with the living. We already have the best and the name is Led Zeppelin.

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05-09-2003, 09:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
monster Loser	the doors what do you think?

05-10-2003, 11:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
bullgoose Insane Location: Central N.Y.	Okay, this is a toughie; I was in my late teens/early20's when the Doors were popular- I hated 'em; fast-forward 20 years, everytime I heard "Light my fire" it was like the theme song for the '60's (in the best possible sense) Jim Morrison was a self-destructive genius, a card carrying nut case that was headed down the road to oblivion quite a while before the Doors ever existed; but the son of a bitch sure could write lyrics. I THINK at this point, the Doors are assured of a page in the "Big Book of Rock'n'Roll", but who the hell knows; I've heard for years Morrison is alive and living in Tunisea, maybe they'll all get together for a reunion. BTW: I used to have a vinyl bootleg made in Italy that had two cuts with Jimi Hendrix playing and Morrison doing vocals; if you ever see "F.H.I.T.A." or "Look down on my Woman" on a file-sharing site, they're legit, D/L 'em. __________________ "If I had it to do all over, I'd do it all over you."

05-10-2003, 12:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	I have to go with degrawj. The Doors are a great group, with or without Jim Morrison dying, but they never would rate as the greatest group, IMO. That honor would go to the Beatles or Stones. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

05-11-2003, 07:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
perripken Now a registered fossil Location: Home of the shrinking Kodak	Even though the doors recorded some of my favorites, I certainly wouldn 't consider them the greatest. I like alot of their songs, but not all of them. I have to agree with Lebell, you have to look at the Beatles, who to everyone is a household name. My personal favorite Doors tune was definately "Peace Frog" (maybe and idea for a new thread? hmmmm...) __________________ And in the end, it’s not the years in your life that count. It’s the life in your years. Abraham Lincoln

05-09-2003, 11:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
degrawj I'm still waiting... Location: West Linn, OR	i think they would have been great, but not the greatest. they did have a lot going for them though, except for that whole alcoholic thing.

05-11-2003, 09:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
bullgoose Insane Location: Central N.Y.	The problem with a thread like this is that you don't have a valid comparison; it's really difficult to judge the music of the Doors without the controversy that Morrison caused. I could never call the Doors the greatest R&R band- they're just not; they may not even be a significant R&R band; compitent, yes, great, maybe the best, NO! My vote for the most IMPORTANT Rock & Roll entity (band or individual) would have to be a tie between Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly; it's been said that if Buddy Holly had lived, the Beatles would never have made the splash they did; I believe that, Buddy was just getting started when he ied. __________________ "If I had it to do all over, I'd do it all over you."

05-11-2003, 06:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
dankitti Crazy	the doors were at their best when they did these epic performance pieces like The Soft Parace, Celebration Of The Lizard, The End, and When The Music's Over. jim brought poetry and philosophy to rock & roll. __________________ Aw' little girl, there ain't no time To wash yer stinky hand Go 'head 'n' roll over I'm goin' in you again In you again In you again In you again... --Frank appa I Have Been In Yo

05-11-2003, 07:08 PM	#9 (permalink)
BulletBob Psycho Location: Rupp Arena	The doors are good but not even close to the greatest band ever. Good stoner music though.

05-11-2003, 07:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tophat665 Minion of the scaléd ones Location: Northeast Jesusland	I like the Doors a great deal. Jim was a fine lyricist, and all the other fellow in the group were (and remain) fine musicians, however, they are not the greatest, though they belong in any top hundred list, probably in the top 10 or 20. If we're just talking rock and roll, Stones over Beatles. If pop music counts, Beatles over Stones. IMHO, King Crimson over either of them, but I'm odd that way, __________________ Light a man a fire, and he will be warm while it burns. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

05-11-2003, 09:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
Craven Morehead Custom User Title	The Doors were great enough to stand the test of time. Their music holds up today in many ways better than when it was recorded. Much of how the Doors are preceived is based on Morrison's mystique. Had he not been on a collision course with self demolition the Doors woudn't have been what they were. Hence, had he lived the Doors wouldn't be what we think they could have been, if any of that makes sense......

05-19-2003, 05:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
rideough Insane Location: Ottawa...the greatest city in Canada...down the road from silentjay!	I'm a huge Doors fan but Jim was an asshole! musically they are brilliant musicians and song writers. Still can't get American Prayer out of my car stereo. Its awesome!!

05-19-2003, 05:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
RAMONES!!! _-_---_-_	well i'll be seeing them May 23rd __________________ Come on

05-20-2003, 07:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
fienna i wanna be just like you Location: n to the j	the doors, although i really liked them, only really gained the status they have now through jim morrisons death. if he had lived, they would have about the same status as the monkeys and peter, paul, & mary do now - respected, but not revered by any means. __________________ to leave is never easy perhaps it shouldn't be but return is even harder yes return is harder still

05-22-2003, 07:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
dankitti Crazy	it's really interesting that the musical lineup of the ddoors never sounds dated, just drums, guitar and keyboards. technology introduced in the 70s and 80s sounds dated after awhile, like the cheesy 80s synths. but the basic band lineup will live forever. that's rock & roll! __________________ Aw' little girl, there ain't no time To wash yer stinky hand Go 'head 'n' roll over I'm goin' in you again In you again In you again In you again... --Frank appa I Have Been In Yo

05-22-2003, 10:26 AM	#16 (permalink)
holtmate Flailing White Boy Location: Cincinnati	The Doors were a great band, and there music still holds up...but I don't think they would have ever been the greatest...anyways, Morrison had to destroy himself. If he hadn't had that self-destructive urge, the music would not have been the same, IMO. __________________ "Give her your coat" "Why me?" "Because you're perfect." "You have a point there."

05-22-2003, 03:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
h2ogo69 Banned	the doors are the greatest rock/ blues band ever, led zeppelin would be the greatest rock and roll band though

05-24-2003, 06:05 AM	#19 (permalink)
RAMONES!!! _-_---_-_	saw them last night, and let me tell you, they kicked ass, their lead singer looked and sounded like Jim, it was awesome! __________________ Come on

05-26-2003, 06:04 PM	#20 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	The Doors rock and they were good but I wouldn't label them as the best even if Morrison had stayed with the living. We already have the best and the name is Led Zeppelin.