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monster 05-09-2003 09:01 PM

the doors
 
what do you think?

degrawj 05-09-2003 11:49 PM

i think they would have been great, but not the greatest. they did have a lot going for them though, except for that whole alcoholic thing.

bullgoose 05-10-2003 11:38 AM

Okay, this is a toughie; I was in my late teens/early20's when the Doors were popular- I hated 'em; fast-forward 20 years, everytime I heard "Light my fire" it was like the theme song for the '60's (in the best possible sense) Jim Morrison was a self-destructive genius, a card carrying nut case that was headed down the road to oblivion quite a while before the Doors ever existed; but the son of a bitch sure could write lyrics. I THINK at this point, the Doors are assured of a page in the "Big Book of Rock'n'Roll", but who the hell knows; I've heard for years Morrison is alive and living in Tunisea, maybe they'll all get together for a reunion.
BTW: I used to have a vinyl bootleg made in Italy that had two cuts with Jimi Hendrix playing and Morrison doing vocals; if you ever see "F.H.I.T.A." or "Look down on my Woman" on a file-sharing site, they're legit, D/L 'em.

Lebell 05-10-2003 12:06 PM

I have to go with degrawj.

The Doors are a great group, with or without Jim Morrison dying, but they never would rate as the greatest group, IMO.

That honor would go to the Beatles or Stones.

bullgoose 05-10-2003 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lebell
I have to go with degrawj.

The Doors are a great group, with or without Jim Morrison dying, but they never would rate as the greatest group, IMO.

That honor would go to the Beatles or Stones.

WEEEELLLLL.....I don't know. I didn't mean to imply that the Doors sucked or anything; a lot of the stuff that they did was really good; the thing is, no one remembers that Krieger was a terrific guitarist, or that Manzarik could make a Hammond sing; all most people remember is Morrison acting like a psychotic fool, an it's too bad that the Doors will be remembered for contriversy, not the quality of their music.
BTW: Beatles, maybe; Stones, NO FUCKIN' WAY!!

perripken 05-11-2003 07:36 AM

Even though the doors recorded some of my favorites, I certainly wouldn 't consider them the greatest. I like alot of their songs, but not all of them. I have to agree with Lebell, you have to look at the Beatles, who to everyone is a household name. My personal favorite Doors tune was definately "Peace Frog" (maybe and idea for a new thread? hmmmm...)

bullgoose 05-11-2003 09:59 AM

The problem with a thread like this is that you don't have a valid comparison; it's really difficult to judge the music of the Doors without the controversy that Morrison caused. I could never call the Doors the greatest R&R band- they're just not; they may not even be a significant R&R band; compitent, yes, great, maybe the best, NO!
My vote for the most IMPORTANT Rock & Roll entity (band or individual) would have to be a tie between Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly; it's been said that if Buddy Holly had lived, the Beatles would never have made the splash they did; I believe that, Buddy was just getting started when he ied.

dankitti 05-11-2003 06:08 PM

the doors were at their best when they did these epic performance pieces like The Soft Parace, Celebration Of The Lizard, The End, and When The Music's Over. jim brought poetry and philosophy to rock & roll.

BulletBob 05-11-2003 07:08 PM

The doors are good but not even close to the greatest band ever. Good stoner music though.

Tophat665 05-11-2003 07:23 PM

I like the Doors a great deal. Jim was a fine lyricist, and all the other fellow in the group were (and remain) fine musicians, however, they are not the greatest, though they belong in any top hundred list, probably in the top 10 or 20.

If we're just talking rock and roll, Stones over Beatles. If pop music counts, Beatles over Stones. IMHO, King Crimson over either of them, but I'm odd that way,

Craven Morehead 05-11-2003 09:40 PM

The Doors were great enough to stand the test of time. Their music holds up today in many ways better than when it was recorded. Much of how the Doors are preceived is based on Morrison's mystique. Had he not been on a collision course with self demolition the Doors woudn't have been what they were. Hence, had he lived the Doors wouldn't be what we think they could have been, if any of that makes sense......

rideough 05-19-2003 05:27 AM

I'm a huge Doors fan but Jim was an asshole!
musically they are brilliant musicians and song writers.
Still can't get American Prayer out of my car stereo.
Its awesome!!:cool:

RAMONES!!! 05-19-2003 05:29 PM

well i'll be seeing them May 23rd:D

fienna 05-20-2003 07:08 AM

the doors, although i really liked them, only really gained the status they have now through jim morrisons death. if he had lived, they would have about the same status as the monkeys and peter, paul, & mary do now - respected, but not revered by any means.

dankitti 05-22-2003 07:49 AM

it's really interesting that the musical lineup of the ddoors never sounds dated, just drums, guitar and keyboards. technology introduced in the 70s and 80s sounds dated after awhile, like the cheesy 80s synths. but the basic band lineup will live forever. that's rock & roll!

holtmate 05-22-2003 10:26 AM

The Doors were a great band, and there music still holds up...but I don't think they would have ever been the greatest...anyways, Morrison had to destroy himself. If he hadn't had that self-destructive urge, the music would not have been the same, IMO.

Lebell 05-22-2003 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tophat665
If we're just talking rock and roll, Stones over Beatles. If pop music counts, Beatles over Stones. IMHO, King Crimson over either of them, but I'm odd that way,

King Crimson? No way man. He's got some good shit, but over the BEATLES???

h2ogo69 05-22-2003 03:48 PM

the doors are the greatest rock/ blues band ever, led zeppelin would be the greatest rock and roll band though

RAMONES!!! 05-24-2003 06:05 AM

saw them last night, and let me tell you, they kicked ass, their lead singer looked and sounded like Jim, it was awesome!

Glory's Sun 05-26-2003 06:04 PM

The Doors rock and they were good but I wouldn't label them as the best even if Morrison had stayed with the living. We already have the best and the name is Led Zeppelin. :D


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