Any IDM/Grindcore fans here?
 

Cmon, I know one of you out there likes IDM. Anyway, I'll go listing some of my fave artists.

Pale, D'atachi, µziq, jega, squarepusher, amon tobin, arovane, ovuca (his astrobotnia work is STELLAR), bogdan raczynski, joseph nothing (tatsuya is my god, holy shit he blows my mind - and if you haven't heard his work as "rom=pari" you really should), com.a......others.

Anyway, if you haven't heard of Pale, he's this upcoming kid, has done work with shitmat and tatsuya, really nice fella. I've been talking to him through AIM for like a month, he's let me listen to a lot of his unreleased stuff. Look for him in the grindcore scene, he's gonna hit it big.

Laters

Hail IDM, grindcore is not really my thing though, I like IDM at the opposite end of the spectrum fucked up beatwork over relaxing clean pads. I'm openminded though, I'll listen to glitch, microsound, drill n bass, and everything else that seems to be crossing over with IDM these days.

Squarepusher and Amon Tobin are IDM? I'm so out of touch with genre labels nowadays.

IDM is pretty broad and vague anyway :P

What the hell is IDM? I love grindcore though. Some of my faves are Burnt by the Sun, Luddite Clone, Dillinger Escape Plan, He Who Corrupts, and As I Lay Dying.

IDM stands for Intelligent Dance Music (sometimes Industrial Dance Music, but that term isn't used as much, and isn't as accurate imo). I think it's generally accepted that the genre (or genres, because IDM can cover quite a range of musical styles) was pioneered by the artists of Warp records and their 'Artificial Intelligence' series of records.

Word. http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/idm/info.html

jenkinson and tobin aren't really IDM....many of those artists are not purely IDM. They are just artists im into :)

love it. whatever "it" is ;)

I've been rather angsty lately, so Bogdan Raczynski and Venetian Snares have been in high circulation.
But I'm a cheese ball at heart.. so I love me some Abfahrt Hinwil, Andre Esterman, Bola...
kind of old, but still fabulous is the Dub Recordings collections... I discovered the artist L'usine through the compilation Nummer Drie, and was tickled shitless to find out he's recently moved to where I live (Seattle). If you cand find his track "Fog" off that compilation, I'd highly suggest it... one of my favorite downtempo/IDM tracks of all time.
Funckarma is also on this comp, and is an incredible artist in his own right.. on the much more mind fuck tinge, gotta love that mental fuck.

the urban gansta bitch in me loved Prefuse 73 and Machine Drum. These are always fun to pull out when I'm out DJing, doing a chill room, and some jackass Gangsta asks to MC... "suure... let me throw these beats on real quick just for you" :insert sinister laugh:

So much good music out there...

for those on broadband (and you better be on this site), turn your music streaming software of choice to SomaFM's "cliqhop" radio. FABULOUS.
oh, and www.Skimo.com is by far the best place to buy "idm" and related music.
and if you're anywhere near Seattle, shoot me a message =)

/end ramble

Yeah, Grindcore is excellent. Dillinger Escape Plan are to me by far the most creative/innovative band in the field, followed closely by Napalm Death. I also kind of like A.C., but that's a bit of a guilty pleasure.

amon tobin, square pusher, plaid, aphex twin, autchre, kid 606
idm is great

thanks for this thread tehblaed!! I dig the IDM now baby!! fans might want to check out www.intelligentdancemusic.com if you haven't already.

I'm jamming to a stream right now, of the following song and band info can anyone tell me which is which:

Agenda Compilation - C1 Fold - Dona Hectic

??

New IDM DJ for you all: I just found this on the iTunes Music Store, dude's called Bexarmetric... the first song I bought was "DST IDM." Very good stuff, I'm going to buy some more.

squarepusher = thumbs up

Upon just hearing of 'IDM', I won't embarass myself by suggesting other bands along those lines, who will probably end up not being classed as IDM.


EDIT - however, my spelling might embarass me anyway...

Love "IDM"....hate the genre title. (can you say...pretentious?)

Another few bands to add to our "list":

Autechre, Wauvenfold, Aphex Twin, Black Dog, Plaid, Boards of Canada.

Especially Autechre....their music is incredible and I mean that as literally as possible...in-credible...literally unbelieveable.

(yes I am Warp's bitch! :D)

I love Napalm Death. Dillenger is pretty good too.

Agreed. Some very good stuff there. You a big enough fan to recommend some good songs, or CD's preferrably?



Never heard of this characters. Any recommendations?



I've been a fan of this lunatic for a while now. "Windowlicker" and "at the heart of it all" are a few of my favorites.


Another good one here. All I've heard from them I have liked. All of the bands I known above I have heard a lot from on the www.intelligentdancemusic.com site. Has anyone else been checking that out? I really like it. No I don't run it either, its just some really good shit.

Sure!
Autechre: Tri Repetae++, is probably my favourite of theirs. Its a double album, and a good introduction to what they are all about.
Also Confield. This album is...um....out there for want of a better expression. Its not always exactly easy to listen to, but deep under the churning layers of noise there is an incredible beauty.

Check out this review on amazon.com. I couldn't even attempt to describe this album, but I think this review does an excellent job. I agree with every last word of it...
Click for the full review

Wauvenfold: 3fold is a collection of 3 eps. The openning track Clip is weird and wonderful. It is mainly the sounds of something like a camera's zoom lens, and other turning and clicking devices and such.
Stange samples such as these turn up through out the rest of the album, but they never appear out of place. They aren't samples played on top of music (like so many artists who are shamelessly guilty of this) but rather the samples are completely apart of the music.

Aphex Twin: Pretty much everything by Aphex Twin simply rules! Soem good albums to check out are Druqks, Richard D. James Album and for a real treat Selected Ambient Works 85-92. Also check out some of his alter egos; Caustic Window and Polygon Window.
Some good individual tracks: Come to Daddy, Flim (a semi-namesake for me!:)), Icct Hedral (the Philip Glass orchestration is even beeter than the original), On, Donkey Rhubarb, Quoth(as Polygon Window), Xtal, Girl/Boy song, goon gumpas.

Black Dog consited of three members, but then split, with two of them forming Plaid, and the remaining member Plaid.
Check out Bytes one of their first releases.

[b]Plaid: I love these guys! Not For Threes is a wonderful album! Very listenable, and interesting, with a few tracks featuring guest vocal talent (including Bjork on Lilith). For something a little stranger a suggest Spokes
Good tracks:
Abla Eedio, Lilith, Eyen, Assault on Precinct Zero,

Boards of Canada: Music has the right to children is a very strange, slightly creepy album, featuring a lot of vocals from children. It basks in a sort of childish playfulness, but is all the better for it. Maybe I'm just weird, but kids weird me out! :lol:

Squarepusher: Go Plastic and Hard Normal Daddy are great albums worth checking out.
Red Hot Car is a brilliant track, though it may give you a distorted view of what to expect from Squarepusher in general as it is much more "poppy" than the rest of his stuff. (It seems many people ended up buying Go Plastic after only ever hearing Red Hot Car, and ended up hating the album.)



Yeah, checked it out from your link. Its very good. I am on a dial-up connection though, so I can't really browse and listen at the same time, and even when I do nothing but listen, I still can't hear it at good sound quality. What I wanted to do was to use the Disk Writer plugin from Winamp and then leave it running for an hour or two, and then come back to the computer and listen to it offline, but alas! it cannot be done.
Good site though.

amon tobin - supermodified is great
i dont like much squarepusher except rotted one note and ultravisitor
and i dont like ANY autechre, theyre very overrated IMO
ditto aphex twin
boards of canada, and plaid, too, is great, but i think of them as triphop more than IDM

Not too keen on Autechre... don't know why.

Aphex Twin are easily my favorite IDM band, followed by Orbital and Boards of Canada. I like Dntel a lot too (his solo stuff is better than his Postal Service stuff). If Prefuse 73 counts as IDM, he's right up there too.

Aphex Twin is a single guy (Richard D. James)

/Nit-picking old bastard :)

I'm well aware of that but in the same sense as Bright Eyes (Conor Oberst) or Nine Inch Nails (Trent Reznor) it just sounds better when described as a "band"

ok ok... back to your corners ladies.

Thanks for the recommendations CS.

*cough*bullshiz*cough

If Orbital is part of the IDM genre then they get my vote for best band in the genre. Squarepusher and Aphex Twin gets two thumbs up, but they're not even close to Orbital in my opinion.

--jaded

And the award for most vaguely defined music genre goes to...

yah, heh... it's by far the most loose genra... I have to chuckle when people (myself included) say "I really like IDM" when it encompasses SO MANY styles. I love the soothing euromelodic chunky bass glitch IDM (?!) as much as I love noise/drill'n'bass oriented IDM.. but the two are completely dissimilar in everything but that they are "experimental" in some sense and don't always follow a common musical structure.
Which I guess is kind of the definition of IDM... even if some of it has become fairly generified, IDM, in general, does not follow a common musical structure. sometimes it deviates a little, sometimes it deviates alot. sometimes music that is not IDM has IDM elements (the guy from NERD comes to mind, and alot of hip hop, for that matter). usually IDM incorperates normalness to set the stage for its abstraction. but it's always different than what you should be expecting.

oh, and Orbital is NOT IDM. Orbital is just good electronic music, but it's very standard. They do breaks, techno, house, and downtempo.

He's not really IDM, but does anyone else here dig Paul van Dyk? This guy has been owning me for a few weeks now. I bought "Seven Ways" a few days ago and I just bought "Out There and Back" 15 minutes ago. He was at a club in town called Vision last month and I am kicking myself for missing him.

I'm learning control..... I was able to stop myself from buying yet another Paul van Dyk CD. I was at Tower today and looked at "Reflections," but talked myself into not buying it. Yet. I think I get paid this weekend. Then its mine.

I'm personally offended and disgusted by you bringing up a hack like Paul van Dyk in this thread. Even more so that you said he's "not really IDM", implying that he is in any sort of way remotely as ingenious as the most piss-poor idm artist.
PvD is trance. His specific sub-genra is shitty etard trance. If you want good trance, pick up Hallucinogen's "The Lone Deranger" album (not available at your local music store... try psyshop.com ).

And now... back to your regularly scheduled glitch...

Me <3 Venetian Snares. Today it's been rainy, crisp, and lush.. .perfect weather for their album "Winter in the Belly of a Snake"

Keep flaming... I'm reloading

/bad cliche

PvD is the most recognized DJ in the world (more so than Oakenfold, Tiesto, Digweed, Sasha...) for a reason. And he is not just trance. He covers many a different sub genre in electronic. I do appreciate good trance, such as Juno Reactor and FSOL (Lifeforms).

Venetian Snares is fucking insane. I haven't picked up any of his albums but I would like to. "Find Candace" is music assault like none other. It sends chills up your spine, grabs you by the throat, shakes violently, and throws you on the ground in a heap of yourself 8 minutes prior.

yay!! We're back on the first page! I bought and started listening to boards of canada's "music has the right to children." Impressions to come soon. I wanted to pick up Autechre's Tri Repetae++, but the Tower I was at didn't have it.

Ok. Have listened to Music has the Right to Children at least 6 or 7 times now. A masterwork to say the least. It does have a childish feel to it, like the music is holding my hand and guiding me where it wants me to go. I have found it to be very soothing to listen to, never aggressive towards the listener, but rather welcoming to them. Well worth every penny.

REPLY YOU BASTARDS!!

Yeay. That album rules!

So, did you find it a shade on the creepy side...or is that just me? :D

***Music has the Right to Children*** 24 hours later

I have been listening to this incesantly since I bought it. I am still completely in awe of this album. I sit in front of my speakers in the same amazement that would overtake me if a flying saucer landed in my front yard. Its ethereal feeling. The music beckons you to play with it. Several songs spring sonic references to A Clockwork Orange, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and even Doctor Who.

CS... I find it to be the total opposite. The child laughing on "Aquarius" is such an innocent laugh that whatever it is being laughed about could not possibly be anything dangerous.

I placed a mega order on Amazon yesterday. On its way is:

Paul van Dyk - The Politics of Dancing
Paul van Dyk - Global CD/DVD
Paul van Dyk - Reflections
Autechre - Confield
Autechre - Tri Repetae++
Boards of Canada - Geogaddi
All Else Failed - Archtype

and I also picked up a 2 pack of bath towels for $9.99 that came with free matching hand towels. Sure as hell can't beat 2 nice bath towels and 2 nice hand towels for ten bucks!!

The Politics of Dancing shipped today, I'll be sure to post a brief review. I know PulpMind is dying to hear it!!

Ok. I finally got The Politics of Dancing today. Because UPS is retarded (they said they tried to deliver it yesterday morning at 9:31, and no one answered.... despite the fact that I and my roommate were both up and about) I had to go pick it up from the hub center south of downtown. It was a fun journey and the view of the skyline on the walk back was absolutely awesome. I was smiling the whole way back to the el station.

Anyway, I digress.... So I've been listening to it for a while now, on track 16 on the first disc. I haven't been paying an incredible amount of attention to it, but what I've heard I have really liked. I stopped by the Virgin MegaStore on the way back, and picked up Amber from Autechre. I listened to that at work a few days ago and had to have it. I also nabbed Monty Python and the Holy Grail and the Virgin Sampler downtempo grooves was free because I spent over $50. Coolness. My thoughts to come soon on the rest when it shows up. (or when I drag all the way south of downtown to get it)

Ok. Still no The Politics of Dancing review, as I have not been able to stop listening to Amber.

As you may have guessed, I really dig this album. I have found it to be more enjoyable than Music Has the Right to Children at medium to medium high volumes. Each of the tracks elicits a different emotion. Track 1 "Foil" reminds me of a plane crashing for some reason. Just the overall sound of the track gives a feeling of impending disaster. Track 4 "Slip" on the other hand, is a more upbeat track which gives me feelings of a bright future, maybe one with flying cars. Track 9 "Yulquen" is a depressing experience. It sends a chill of failure through my mind. The kind of failure that you subtly know about in your head. Track 11 "Teartear" is another bummer of an ensemble. This time it is in a more upbeat flavor than "Yulquen," but it is chilling to listen to. It has an air of deception about it, and that works to its advantage as it works over the listener. You can't help but listen to this track. It reminds me of some background music like I would hear in an episode of Doctor Who.




Is anyone still with me here??




**crickets chirping**

EDIT May 31st: after listening to Amber as much as I have been, I have found myself putting Music Has the Right to Children back in.

....no one is listening

should I start you an epic trance thread? ;)
seriously though, if you like trance.. check out Hallucinogen's "The Lone Deranger" album :)

back to IDM, et al -
Amber is an *amazing* album..!.. groundbreaking and breathtaking. Autechre has never dissapointed me, and often inspires.

Doth my eyes deceive me?? Someone is still out there!!

Ok Pulp, I'll check me out some Hallucinogen. Glad to hear you like Autechre. It is a very good album.

Does anyone care for Astral Projection? What would they be classified as? Whatever the hell it is, they are one of the first electronic groups I ever got into.

Yea, good shiet, not many more artists to mention though that have not already.

I must agree as b4 too that PvD is not IDM. Give some examples so at least we can see where you get that idea.

If you want an excellent compilation album of IDM or "electronic listening music", I reccomend Artificial Intelligence on the Warp label.
Aphex Twin (as The Dice Man), Autechre, Speedy J and others. Two thumbs way way up! :D

I never said Paul van Dyk was IDM.

"hello Brandon"

"Yo."

"Back to talk to yourself some more?"

"Yes."

"Very well then."



Tri Repetae ++ showed up today. I gotta say, at this point, I'm not very impressed by the first disc. I've only made it about half way through the second disc, which I liked. I'll definitely have to give it some listening time. But what I am blown away by is the new to rococo rot. album "hotel morgen." I bought this on a whim at Tower before I went into work today. Its a very broody album and rather bleak at times, but a very rewarding listen.

www.skimo.com

BEST SITE EVER for buying IDM oriented music. period. no contest.

Astral Projection is psychedelic trance, just like Hallucinogen. Except AP is much much older style, often referred to as classic "goa" trance. None of this, however, is IDM ;)

I think Im going to start a psytrance/goa thread.

In the vain of IDM, I've really been enjoying Pilote recently, though that's about as soft as you can get with the idm.
Cex's new album (maryland mansions) rocks the casbah of the glitch and funky and somewhat hiphop oriented.
the new venetian snares is AWESOME for the harder flavored stuff.

Upon giving Tri Repetae++ further listening, I really like it. There is a definite evolution in sound. They seem to have eschewed the more upbeat sounds from "Amber" and are exploring the possibilities of noise and chaos. I really like the whole album, but I've been listening to the 2nd disc more. I would highly recommend the new to rococo rot. album. Think of it as a bit of Music has the Right to Children mixed with some Amber. It is a very laid back "come play with me" type album.

What new Venetian Snares is this you speak of? I've been thinking of buying Doll Doll Doll because of the song "All the Children are Dead." Fucking insane that song is.

*edit* checked out the skimo.com site. Not impressed. Their selection doesn't appear to be that great, and what I did find that I was looking for was used. I don't like used stuff; I don't like knowing other people have touched my shit.

just a question i never thought of about this thread....

....what does grindcore have to do with IDM at all?

I too was wondering this. They don't exactly have much in common.

So I got Confield yesterday (finally). Um. Well. It's uh.... fatiguing to listen to. I made it all the way through it tonight. I've attempted many times before and haven't been able to do it. I can make it to about track 7 and my brain hurts so much I have to stop. It's an amazing album, though. I never realized just how beautiful utter chaos can be. I especially love the last track, where you get this feeling of everything falling apart.

yup! :D

hmm... just out of curiosity, what was it you were looking for?
Skimo is an interesting place, because it's run by only one guy. but he has the mad connections, and is willing to talk with you to find out what will suit your desires best. personally, I've never had trouble finding anything I wanted on that site (except, naturally, old releases... and I havn't tried recently, since he just had a huge revamp).
/end ramble

I think I checked for Autechre, Boards of Canada, Aphex Twin, and to rococo rot. Got a few results for each. Thanks for the link, but I think I'll stick to Amazon.

for big name artists like that, Amazon will be a much better place to find new copies, especially of older material. I often find myself there for copies of old classics, like Aphex Twin like you said =)
When you want to find some of the less common, compilations, side projects, limited editions, underground, etc, or just don't feel like supporting corperate amerika, skimo is my favorite place.
for example: Mr Projectile, Abfahrt Hinwill, Funkarma, Bogdan Raczinski.. )

I bought some more Autechre earlier in the week. I was downtown for an eye exam, had plenty of time to kill, so I decided to go to Virgin. I picked up Draft 7.30, Chiastic Slide, and Peel Session 2. They are drifting farther and farther from reality in Draft 7.30. Blips, pops, and whizbangs are even more prevalent then they were in Confield. Strangely, I enjoy this more than Confield. It just works for me somehow. Chiastic Slide is another "out there" work, but I really enjoy this one as well. It is still calculated noise like the others, but has an eerie ambiance lurking in the background different than the rest. My favorite out of the bunch is Peel Session 2. Although just an EP, it clocks in at longer than some full length albums out today. This feels like a brief jump back into reality and sounds like it could once again be described as "music." It feels like Amber, only slightly evolved. Track 3 "Gaekwad" is my personal favorite. After listening to it for a while longer tonight, I really like the first track too. It feels alive. Like a player piano playing music so someone passing by will play with it.

tomorrow, Funkstorung is playing here in Seattle. I'm very very excited. It's going to be beautiful. If any ya'all are from around here, come! say hi... i'll be that one guy dancing really spastically, and not standing around like all the hipster lamers ;)

Hello. My name is Brandon, and I'm an Autechre-holic. I have never adopted a group as fast as I have Autechre. I've bought like 8 or 9 of their albums in about a month and a half. I picked up Peel Session 1, ep7, and Incunabula at Tower a few days ago. Again, WOW. Rob and Sean never cease to amaze me. ep7 is a 1999 release, so we're talking space age, pops, fizzes, blips, blaps, snaps, and more whizbangs. It just works. I really like this (no surprise there...) album. Incunabula took my feelings on Amber exploited them, and turned them on me. Its brilliant work. Although I absolutely love it, I would dare to say that I enjoy the unclassifiable, doens't even resemble music sound of Autechre, than the more rhythmic IDM sound of Autechre.

ladies and gentlemen, we have a mutant.

Yes we do!

*strolls in, whistling an unknown tune*

Bought some more tunes tonight. Went for a walk down to good 'ol Tower and picked up Boards of Canada's Twoism and plaid's Double Figure. I listened to BoC first. Another excellent release from the Hexagon Sun crew. This is definitely on par with Music and Geogaddi. There was no "warm up" period to this album like I had with Geogaddi. I loved it the first time I heard it. I'm listening to plaid right now. I've heard this before, and it is well worth the $15.99 admission price. The 2nd track "Squance" is my fave so far.

I'm bewildered - why does this thread make a connection between IDM and grindcore?

That's like making a thread called "Any Geto Boys, Raffi, Morbid Angel, or Disney soundtrack fans here??"

Grindcore = socially conscious offshoot of anarchopunk crossed with a stripped down death metal sound. Seminal bands: Napalm Death, Terrorizer, Brutal Truth, Nausea, Bolt Thrower, Carcass, Exhumed, etc.

Known connection to IDM = ZERO.

Thanks for reiterating what didn't need to be said. The thread has been straight IDM from the get go. And your description of grindcore is fucked. You make it sound like a ripoff of other genres, when it is an original creation. Check out Burnt by the Sun, Dillinger Escape Plan (grind/noisecore), Luddite Clone, The End, or Unearth for a good feel of grindcore.

some of my music has been called "idm grindcore"
its in my signature, the soundclick link, the song "lookmelittle likemelong"

Picked up Aphex Twin's Richard D. James Album and Plaid's Not for Threes from Tower today. Both I like. The Aphex album is glitchier than what I would have thought. Still most excellent though.

Ok since it sounds like you have spent a lot of money on music in the last few months, do me a favor.

Make a list of ten CDs that I should find in order to appreciate this Genere (IDM) . Anyone feel free to chime in!

I thought you'd never ask, in no particular order:

1. Boards of Canada - Music has the Right to Children
2. Autechre - Amber
3. Aphex Twin - Richard D. James Album
4. Plaid - Double Figure
5. Mu-ziq - Brace Yourself
6. Bexarametric - Bexarametric Pressure LP
7. to rococo rot. - Hotel Morgen
8. Venetian Snares - Winter in the Belly of a Snake
9. Amon Tobin - Supermodified
10. Orbital - Middle of Nowhere

Upon finishing the list, I would say that although the list is in no particular order, I would highly recommend you buy Music has the Right to Children first. I feel that is IDM defined. I put 10 unique items on the list, not wanting to have it full of any one "artist." I could have done a 10 best Autechre albums, but that wouldn't have been fair. Definitely start with Music... and give that time to work over you. You will be immersed in what feels like a new world. After this, I would go to Twoism next, you'll love that, and then pick up Geogaddi. That might take some getting used to. It took me several weeks of listening to warm up to that, but I absolutely love it now. If you want to make the "dive" into Autechre, it would be insane to start anywhere else but Amber. A trip to the psych ward will ensue if you start on some of the newer stuff. Move onto Incunabula after Amber enraptures you. Take two and call me in the morning.

i have to get autechre's amber back. i threw a new year's eve party and had it playing on a boombox in the bathroom with blacklights going. someone opened my bathroom window and threw the boombox out to their friend during the party. i really didn't care that someone stole the boombox, just that i lost the cd. anyway, music has the right to children is amazing work. i'd say either boards of canada or autechre are my faves. fans of autechre should check out the skam label.

Eeep, what a response. Haven't visited TFP in quite some time. Sorry guys.

Guess I have some 'splainin to do with my linkage between IDM and Grindcore eh?

I guess I was talking about electronic grindcore, super fast shed your brain in two stuff like Pale (www.twentyknives.com - he's my friend and owns corehard, check him out) and some of the more harsh bogdan, shitmat, and frogpocket stuff.

sooo....The latest electronic releases i've been diggin have been

edIT: crying over pros for no reason

Julian Fane: Special Forces (note: this is not really out yet. I have a copy due to unspeakable circumstances ;\ This stuff reminds me of the Postal Service, except not fucking shitty. real indie rock lyrics over real idm/breakcore. good good good shit.)

i've been rocking dDamage a lot too.

i'm a planet mu guy, if you can't tell. www.planet-mu.com

Aside from all that, I've really been living it up on the indie rock side of things. The Decemberists, Ben Kweller, Deathcab for Cutie, The Long Winters, Trouble with Sweeney...all these bands are seriously cool.

I also play drums in my own jam band (don't even have a singer).

yay music!

edit: I forgot to mention my opinions of Snares and Autechre! I think these guys are just a wee bit too random and not rhythmic enough for me to enjoy.

I like ragga too. Ragga is good shit.

I guarantee you there is nothing random about the beat structure of Venetian Snares or Autechre (or Richard D James, or Squarepusher, or Funkstorung, or..)
but I concurr that sometimes a more steady beat is desired.. but then it's not really IDM anymore is it?

hmmm

I will agree that their sounds often come off sounding random and haphazardly thrown together, but rest assured that they are prescisely and mathematically constructed. Recently, I have been delving into the many Many MANY levels of Boards of Canada. When you really analyze it, their sound is breathtaking. I have always been really into them, but now I feel like I have an understanding and appreciation for it like I never had before.

Time to rename this The brandon11983 thread hehe.

VSnares is extremely prolific and puts almost no thought into each of his albums, and people think it is genius work. His songs are fast, trashy, and lack discernable melody.

AE's gantz graf release is extremely spazmatic and the only way I can listen to it without getting a headache is if I'm on acid.

So, brandon11983, while being "precisely and mathematically constructed", both Snares and AE's music sounds like poop to me. BoC were correct when they said that music is math, but not the other way around.

edit: Also, brandon, if you would like to know more about electronic music, this really isn't the place. check out www.planet-mu.com and their boards to meet some musicians and kids who know what they are talking about.

If I came off as a know it all, I apologize. I've only been into IDM for six months or so, and I still have a lot to learn. I have been checking out Planet-Mu lately too. Mu-ziq has had my ear a lot as of late, but not nearly enough as I've been listening to Geogaddi. Ae's Gantz Graf is one of my fave Ae albums. I will COMPLETELY agree that this will give the listener a headache. The last track is worse than all of Confield. I start gritting my teeth a few minutes into it. I need a cup of Gatorade after each listen.

I am in sheer amazement of Autechre. I like it so much because it (save for the early releases) pays heed to none of the defintions of what the world calls "music." It has no discernable rhythm, no set time scheme, or any of the other elements that other "musicians" adhere to. Needless to say, it is not for everyone.

Whats up ladies? I'm back. I was sitting through some boring ass training and orientation at my new job at Eddie Bauer, and decided to walk across the street to Virgin. (expect a lot of "new CD" stories to start like this from now on...) I had already picked out what I wanted, so I went right for it. I picked up The Cure's Disintegration, µ-Ziq's Royal Astronomy, and Global Underground 13: Ibiza from Sasha. I already had the 2nd disc from Sasha, and they had the 2 CD set on sale (all GU sets to be exact) on sale for only $10! I know Sasha is not IDM, so don't bother pointing that out...(lol) I do like his music, and I really liked what I had, it was a great deal, so I picked it up. I love The Cure, and I picked up Disintegration because it was on sale and had a few songs I was looking for. As much as I have gotten into µ-Ziq, RA is just not doing it for me. I'm listening to it right now, and I don't much care for it. Hopefully it will grow on me sometime. Until next time, (probably not long from now because I work across from Virgin now) take care all.

*bump in disguise*

Royal Astronomy has been growing on me big time. I listened to it a few times today and I really dig it now.

Lately I have been listening to alot of Mr Projectile.
Hands down, the most beautiful production I've heard in a loooong time! It's uses more ambient textures than most "IDM", nor is it abrasive... it's off-beat beat-structure characteristic of "idm" is beautiful and well constructed, and sends my heart spinning... thick sounds and textures that slice into emotion. be forewarned that it's not cold like alot of idm can be, it's, in fact, very emotional. if you like Dntel, you'll like this.
if you need to preview just one track before buying the album, I would suggest "you need" (track 1 off his album "sinking").

Good call on the Mr. Projectile. I listened to all the song samples of Sinking on iTunes. Sounds like some good stuff there. I'm gonna have to swing by either Tower or Virgin in hopes of picking it up. IDM... what an addiction.

tower or virgin? awe c'mon, yo... support the man, not the corperation =P buy independent as long as you can =)
oh lookie http://www.skimo.com/catalog/product...oducts_id=1189 ;) and the artist will actually get more than $0.25 cents for their release (unlike with with tower or virgin, etc)
/end rant

I guess I'm a bad person. I can order that from Tower, get another CD I want, and get free shipping.

Hey guys. You might like this. It is a track that my friend Tucker is working on. He brought it into the store today and I really dug it. See what you think:

http://7zark7.net/Aug2004withSteve_earlymix.mp3

You can check out his site here if you are interested, he also has many of his other works on there... www.7zark7.net

it's puurty. a little thick in the low end, but sounds good.
makes me want to listen to Ratatat. which is this week's musical obsession. sample here: http://www.smokecds.com/cd/35539

thanks, brandon... perusing your friend's site now =)

It is very thick on the low end. It had our VR-4jr's going to town when we were listening to it in store. Glad you like it Pulp.

HOLY SHIT! GRINDCORE NEWS ON THE IDM/GRINDCORE THREAD! Too bad it had to be bad news. Burnt by the Sun have parted ways with their singer and drummer. No word on whether or not Teddy and John will continue under the BBTS name.

Full story: http://www.lambgoat.com/news/view.aspx?id=3864

I just thought I'd put this out there

source: http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/acpicnicoflove.html

Impaled Northern Moon Forest
This is an Anal Cunt Side Project.

SIDE 1 (DEMO #1):

Grim And Frostbitten Moongoats Of The North

Forloned Invocations Of Blasphemous Congregations Oflusting Goat Sodomizing Satanists.

Gazing At The Blasphemous Moon While Perched Atop A Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Forsaken Crest Of The Northern Mountian

Bloodlustfully Praising Satans Unholy Almightyness In The Woods At Midnight

Nocturnal Cauldrons Aflame Amidst The Northern Hellwitch's Perprtual Blasphemy

Transfixing The Forbidden Blasphemous Incantation Of The Conjering Wintergoat

SIDE 2 (DEMO #2):

Masturbating On The Unholy Inverted Tracks Of The Grim & Frostbitten Necrobobsledders

Awaiting The Blasphemous Abomination Of The Necroyeti While Sailing On The Northernmost Fjord Of Xzfgiiizmtsath

Lustfully Worshipping The Inverted Moongoat While Skiing Down The Inverted Necromountain Of Necrodeathmortum

Awaiting The Frozen Blasphemy Of The Necroyeti's Lusting Necrobation Upon The Altar Of Voxrfszzzisnzf

Summoning The Unholy Frozen Winterdemons To The Grimmest And Most Frostbitten Inverted Forest Of Abazagorath

Entranced By The Northern Impaled Necrowizard's Blasphemous Incantation Amidst The Agonizing Abomination Of The Lusting Necrocorpse

Grim And Frostbitten Gay Bar

Nice thread! IDM is my favorite genre, specifically melodic IDM. Some of my favorites:

Boards of Canada- best ever IMO
Plaid- Trainer, and Spokes, an amazing album
Luke Vibert/Wagonchrist - kinda funky but way cool
µ-Ziq - In Pine Effect
Ulrich Schnauss - really great, a new fav
Aphex Twin
Lobe
Amon Tobin
Isan
ML
Autechre
Red Snapper
Two Lone Swordsmen
Squarepusher


Thanks for the streaming links too

Anal Cunt always makes for some humorous song titles! Good times there.

stazen: good call on the Boards of Canada, I am always torn on whether I like them or Autechre better. Plaid Spokes is a good album you say. I have Double Figure and Not for Threes now, I guess I'll have to pick that one up based on your recommendation. I love DF, but I still am not too crazy about Not for Threes and I have had it for a while now. I love µ-Ziq too, I'm torn between Lunatic Harness and Royal Astronomy. They are 2 very different compositions and I love both of them for their respective differences. Do you care for Mira Calix at all? I picked up her Prickle maxi single (its long enough to be an EP...) and absolutely love it. I highly recommend.

Square Pusher, Aphex Twin, Mu

Yes, they are IDM composers. Now what about them?

**edit**

stazen: saw Plaid Spokes at Tower today. Decided to buy Amon Tobin Supermodified and tosca Suzuki instead...

Yeah, Boards of Canada served as my introduction to IDM a few years ago and they have been my favorite ever since. I've got most all of thier music AFAIK, which albums do you have? Plaid is my 2nd fav, like I said Spokes is excellent, songs 4-7 are amazing IMO. Trainer is a double cd set, and the variety between tracks is amazing, IIRC it's a compliation of old and new tracks. Rest Proof Clockwork is another great album, much more melodic on the whole. I love most anything by µ-Ziq too, Brace Yourself, Tango and Vectif, Salsa with Mesquite, Bluff Limbo and esp. In Pine Effect. I never really took to Mira Calix, but I may have to give them another listen.

Amon Tobin is great too, his tracks have a real instrument / DnB sound to them that I really dig. I haven't heard Tosca Suzuki before.

Have you ever checked out Warp Records Bleep: http://www.warprecords.com/bleep/
It's an online music store where you can sample the entire collection and buy MP3's or CD's. It's great!

From BoC I have:

Music Has the Right to Children
Geogaddi
In a Beautiful Place Out in the Country
Twoism

All I need is Skam/Hi Scores EP and Peel Session.

Suzuki has a really laid back, chill feel to it. I am listening to it now and really enjoying it. I have checked out Warp's Bleep section many times. Good stuff!

*bump
really liking I Am Robot And Proud
it's so utterly cheese and unpretentious, I love it. I want to go running through field of daffodils and fall in love with a french girl.

no, make that a german girl. the first track off of his album "You Make Me This Happy" is exemplarary (sp?).

Ah, Dillinger Escape Plan is excellent. Saw them live this summer, the mosh pit was huge. I came out of the chaos with a 5cm bleeding wound in my stomach, some really sore ribs, a bit of bleeding from the mouth and naturally, a huge grin :D Haven't witnessed a gig so full of energy and positive rage in years.

I'm going to see dillinger this month at Tremont. It's gonna be TIIIIIIIIIGHTTTT

I saw Dillinger with Every Time I Die at the Metro Tuesday night. Best show ever.

Shitmat
Hrvatski

Required listening. :love:

I'll just toss these out here.
to restate the obvious Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, AE, µ-Ziq, Amon Tobin, Speedy J, BoC, VSnares, D'atachi, Bogdan, Dntel, Plaid, Two Lone Swordsmen, and Astrobotnia are all fantastic (I'm sure I left some out but I'm not going back through all the pages to find more examples).
People I haven't seen mentioned that should be checked out would be Cim, D'arcangelo, Monolake, Dwayne Sodahberk, Flashbulb, Lazyfish, Mr. Projectile, Matmos.

I'm a real big fan or FSOL as well, especially the album ISDN. So if you've never heard that album definatly check it out. It's fan-fucking-tastic.

and on a side note, I'm not sure I'd consider Orbital to be IDM. But that's just my opinion.

also, BoC = Gods

mwahaha i have everything by Boc on cd AND vinyl :D
everything except the demo tape but I have the mp3s of that :D :D