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Old 05-01-2004, 09:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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kid spins 3 times before cops catch him

yeah he stole a car and ran from the cops, but i gotta give him props on some SWEET driving

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Old 05-01-2004, 02:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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wooow that kid can drive!!!! stupid but talented!!!
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Old 05-01-2004, 03:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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man ya beat me to it... tech you get the from the techsans board by chance? thats where i saw it....


yah the guy should serve his time... and then get a job as a stunt driver or somethin

but yah i think he prolly made the police pretty mad...
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Old 05-01-2004, 03:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What an awesome driver... I am definetly attending his driving school.
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Old 05-01-2004, 04:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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nope, i got it from camaroz28.com
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Old 05-01-2004, 05:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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hhahaha shit thats great.. to many racing games for that kid :P
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Old 05-01-2004, 06:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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That was some interesting driving, I'm glad they caught that little bastard. That huge wing slowed the car down too much.
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Old 05-01-2004, 07:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I like how the cops spun him so if it wasn't for his driving skill he would have gone into incoming traffic twice.
Also, what huge wing? Looks like a stock Mustang wing to me.
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Old 05-02-2004, 12:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 05-02-2004, 08:17 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Man good driving to not go totally out of control at them speeds!
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Old 05-02-2004, 11:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Only "Almost reaching 100mph"??? What was he thinking? Gun that engine, im sure he coulda pushed it past 120...
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Old 05-02-2004, 11:31 AM   #12 (permalink)
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poor mustang couldnt out run the 'ole Police Crown Vic's.......sad
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Old 05-02-2004, 12:58 PM   #13 (permalink)
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In a V6 mustang? Those CV's had an easy time catching him!
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Old 05-02-2004, 08:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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That was an awesome video. Stupid thing to do, but slick driving.
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Old 05-02-2004, 09:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 05-03-2004, 06:21 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I watched it live on the channel hosting the video file. The guy ran for over 20 minutes. He was pretty careful not to hit anyone which kept his speed down.

The local police chased him for most of the time. The Oklahoma State Police took him out after he got on a major highway in south Oklahoma City.

Even they were pretty careful since we have had several people hurt our killed in OKC over the last few years from high speed pursuits.
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Old 05-03-2004, 08:29 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The local police chased him for most of the time. The Oklahoma State Police took him out after he got on a major highway in south Oklahoma City.

Even they were pretty careful since we have had several people hurt our killed in OKC over the last few years from high speed pursuits.

Thats why in my town the cops stop chasing you after you reach 150Khp downtown that is!
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Old 05-03-2004, 08:34 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Good driving, but when are they gonna learn that you cant win a pursuit if you get on the highway. Find a nice mountain road and you might stand a chance, those CV handle like crap. But on the freeway your screwed. If they dont get ya, they'll call out one of thier interceptor vehicles that will.
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:22 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 07-17-2004, 02:39 PM   #20 (permalink)
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first of all, i'm really fucking suprised that they were allowed to do a pit manuver on the freeway.

second....i didnt get to watch this video, but in the thread that got closed that had this same one you could hear the audio....and that was fucking hilarious. you could hear people in the backround busting up laughing. that was the funniest part.
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Old 07-19-2004, 10:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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poor mustang couldnt out run the 'ole Police Crown Vic's.......sad
I dunno, some PD's aroudn the country have some badass cars. A couple out in the midwest supposedly have a few supercharged Crown Vics for highway patrol. Some even give one or two a nitrous system. Here in CT, state police got a Z06 when street-racing dumbasses started to surface on the highways. It solved the problem real quick.
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Old 07-20-2004, 03:58 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 07-20-2004, 12:50 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 07-20-2004, 03:18 PM   #24 (permalink)
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We need to stop high speed pursuits, period.

We don't need a bunch of testosterone-junkies playing cops and robbers when there are still cars on the road.

Just take a picture of the liscense plate and catch the person later. If the car is stolen, follow it with a helicopter and then send in patrol cars after it stops. It isn't that damn hard, but I guess part of being a cop is the desire to commit criminal acts( I mean, "Necessary acts in the line of duty" ) and recklessly endanger others and vehicles bought by the taxpayers because you "are the law".

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Old 07-20-2004, 11:19 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If the police cars don't follow the person, then he just speeds off to a very populated place and runs inside. A mall, a grocery store, a clothing store, and come out in a while. Hell, buy something and come out later, just to complete the act.

While your idea sounds great on paper, it will never work in real life.

I'm also sure that all cops just love the high speed chases, I know the ones in my town do considering all of the zero high speed chases we have. Some cops join because they want to put a stop to drugs in their community, because they want a job where they can get out and about, some where they have the ability to help someone out. Not all cops are adrenaline junkies who want to go out on a high speed chase everyday, and I'm sure most cops are pretty pissed off when people make such ignorant assumptions.
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While your idea sounds great on paper, it will never work in real life.

I'm also sure that all cops just love the high speed chases, I know the ones in my town do considering all of the zero high speed chases we have. Some cops join because they want to put a stop to drugs in their community, because they want a job where they can get out and about, some where they have the ability to help someone out. Not all cops are adrenaline junkies who want to go out on a high speed chase everyday, and I'm sure most cops are pretty pissed off when people make such ignorant assumptions.
Average cops have the right to be pissed off at such ignorant assumptions, as a few members of their group is making the rest look bad.

My idea may never work in real life, but is car theft worthy of putting an interstate full of people in danger? Not all cops are adrenaline junkies, but surely you will agree some are. And the ones that are get the most media attention.

But why would I care about a few cowboy cops out joyriding down the interstates? Because out of all professions, the Police are required to protect my safety and my property.

If I chased down someone who had stolen my car and spun it on the interstate, I would not be lauded as a hero, but would be a vigilante. I would go to jail, like the thief, and be charged with numerous felonies.

The reason why I can't do that is because I would be putting others physical well being in danger over a piece of property. See where I'm going here?

Maybe not. Maybe you'll call me an ungrateful bastard for those willing to sacrifice themselves to protect the rest of us.. which I am not. The police do what they can. But I have the right to be critical of them, as does everyone else who is dependant on the police.

And in return for being critical, the police will get overwhelmingly negative attitudes towards everyone else, and the process repeats itself. It is a really bad situation.
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Old 07-21-2004, 01:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
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No, no, no. Some of those Crown Vics are bas ass.

I'm pretty good friends with our PDs 1st luetenant (sp?) . I went on a ride with him when we chased a mid 90's Wustang GT (I think this one had the 5.0). All I can say is wow, wow, wow.

The crown vic was supercharged and easily out accelerated a friend of mines LT1.

I learned something that night. Never try to out run a cop.
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Old 07-21-2004, 02:48 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Average cops have the right to be pissed off at such ignorant assumptions, as a few members of their group is making the rest look bad.

My idea may never work in real life, but is car theft worthy of putting an interstate full of people in danger? Not all cops are adrenaline junkies, but surely you will agree some are. And the ones that are get the most media attention.

But why would I care about a few cowboy cops out joyriding down the interstates? Because out of all professions, the Police are required to protect my safety and my property.

If I chased down someone who had stolen my car and spun it on the interstate, I would not be lauded as a hero, but would be a vigilante. I would go to jail, like the thief, and be charged with numerous felonies.

The reason why I can't do that is because I would be putting others physical well being in danger over a piece of property. See where I'm going here?

Maybe not. Maybe you'll call me an ungrateful bastard for those willing to sacrifice themselves to protect the rest of us.. which I am not. The police do what they can. But I have the right to be critical of them, as does everyone else who is dependant on the police.

And in return for being critical, the police will get overwhelmingly negative attitudes towards everyone else, and the process repeats itself. It is a really bad situation.
No, I do not see what you are getting at. If cops would police the way you are proposing, I would become a car thief because it would be insanely easy to get away with it. So yes, people would be out of danger, but there would be a pretty large dent in the economy when people realize they can steal something and as long as they run away fast enough, the cops will just let them go.

What is the point of protecting your safety when the police are willing to let people just take your possessions away?
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No, I do not see what you are getting at. If cops would police the way you are proposing, I would become a car thief because it would be insanely easy to get away with it. So yes, people would be out of danger, but there would be a pretty large dent in the economy when people realize they can steal something and as long as they run away fast enough, the cops will just let them go.

What is the point of protecting your safety when the police are willing to let people just take your possessions away?
Fine. You don't see the point. Let them charge through residential areas at a hundred miles an hour, sirens blaring. Smash into every civilian that gets in the way of justice. In this day of good radios, helicopters, GPS systems, 'rapid response' , and tire shredding strips .... I just consider the high speed chases to be unnecessary.

Especially when the property isn't considered worthy of defending by the legal system... you can't attack someone who is trying to break in your car.

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Well, civilians definitely can't protect it. So you are proposing a trade between protection of property and protection of safety? Or trying to meet in the middle?
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Fine. You don't see the point. Let them charge through residential areas at a hundred miles an hour, sirens blaring. Smash into every civilian that gets in the way of justice. In this day of good radios, helicopters, GPS systems, 'rapid response' , and tire shredding strips .... I just consider the high speed chases to be unnecessary.
Police DO stop chases, or at least slow down by a very large margin if someone does that. Police push their own vehicles to their limit where they can control them safely. Most can push their cars to their limit because they're trained to do so.

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You can't kill someone, but you can definately smack someone upside the head. People aren't allowed to do damage, or break into your car.

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The safety is already protected. If it wasn't, then it would plastered all over newspapers across the country "POLICE OUT OF CONTROL!" "WHEN WILL THE MADNESS STOP!" But it's not. Almost every of high speed chases end up with only one party injured. The "suspect". In those few instances where it's not, it's because the party could be stopped in no other way, or all the fault lays on the untrained "suspect".
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Police DO stop chases, or at least slow down by a very large margin if someone does that. Police push their own vehicles to their limit where they can control them safely. Most can push their cars to their limit because they're trained to do so.
Yeah, race car drivers are trained 100x more than police officers, and they still get hurt on the track. Things can and do happen with high velocities. Do you think any cop on earth has had more high speed driving time than Dale Earnhardt ?

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You can't kill someone, but you can definately smack someone upside the head. People aren't allowed to do damage, or break into your car.
And you can definitely get charged with assault and battery for doing so, and you can definitely get sued by the robber for damages. He of course would still be charged with breaking and entering, but it is less of an offense than A&B.

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The safety is already protected. If it wasn't, then it would plastered all over newspapers across the country "POLICE OUT OF CONTROL!" "WHEN WILL THE MADNESS STOP!" But it's not. Almost every of high speed chases end up with only one party injured. The "suspect". In those few instances where it's not, it's because the party could be stopped in no other way, or all the fault lays on the untrained "suspect".
Oh. You think I'm alone in my opinion? I'm just some random nut raving on the internet?

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politi...-7645336c.html

http://www.nyjournalnews.com/newsroo...copchases.html

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That's something that should be going on in every police department, said Dr. Frederick Rivara, a University of Washington professor of pediatrics and the principal investigator of a study published last month showing that about 300 people are killed in police chases each year.

The study, conducted by the Seattle-based Harborview Injury Prevention & Research Center, said that, from 1994 through 2002, police chases were accountable for 2,654 crashes involving 3,965 vehicles and 3,146 deaths nationwide. A third of those deaths were innocent people not involved in the chase, the study found.
From the perspective of the police & government :

This police chief says that most high speed chases are unwarranted , and are dangerous DESPITE THE TRAINING POLICE OFFICERS GET.

http://www.cji.net/clera/CJI/CenterI...nt%20Paper.pdf
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Yeah, race car drivers are trained 100x more than police officers, and they still get hurt on the track. Things can and do happen with high velocities. Do you think any cop on earth has had more high speed driving time than Dale Earnhardt ?
The thing is, most police officers have a good deal more training than the average criminal. You don't see many people like Dale Earnhardt trying to outrun the police because they realize the risks and they know it's not worth it.

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If you come out of a store and see someone obviously trying to break into your car and you smack them upside the head and push them away, you'd have to find a pretty conviction happy judge and police precinct to even be charged with anything. See, if the "suspect" hadn't tried breaking into your car in the first place, you would not have smacked him or pushed him. In civil court you might pay, but not in criminal court.

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Oh. You think I'm alone in my opinion? I'm just some random nut raving on the internet?

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politi...-7645336c.html

http://www.nyjournalnews.com/newsroo...copchases.html
Except that's two iffy articles in two years. I'm talking nationwide utter shock.

The second article explains it best:

""If it is too dangerous for the offense that occurred, then it will be called off," Gazzola said.

The police in White Plains and Yonkers said that, in general, their policy is to avoid chases.

"Our unwritten rule is that we don't pursue, unless it's a major, serious crime," White Plains Inspector Daniel Jackson said. "The tour commander can call off a pursuit at any time. We try to get the license-plate number and pick them up later. With the congested downtown areas we have, you have to constantly weigh the public's safety."

Yonkers Police Chief Charles Gardner said that, while "there are circumstances when we find pursuits are necessary, it's our policy to avoid pursuits."

Like most departments, Yonkers officers normally give chase only if there is a hit-and-run accident with injuries, if there are indications that a driver is under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or if a serious offense is involved and the suspect may imperil public safety if not stopped. The policy prohibits motorcycle officers from joining pursuits and says marked police cars must have lights and sirens activated.

"The superior officer has an obligation to monitor the activity," the chief said, adding that a supervisor must approve Yonkers officers leaving the city's limits before that action is taken. "If they feel it's getting too dangerous, they'll say to terminate the chase. It's just not worth it." "

Do you expect police officers to let those under the influence to keep driving and just pray they don't hurt anyone? Do you expect police officers to let the "suspect" of a hit and run go in a possible stolen car? A large majority of the police stations across the United States don't have the funds to get helicopters to stop high speed chases, so what are they to do? Let the criminals get away if they go fast enough?

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From the perspective of the police & government :

This police chief says that most high speed chases are unwarranted , and are dangerous DESPITE THE TRAINING POLICE OFFICERS GET.

http://www.cji.net/clera/CJI/CenterI...nt%20Paper.pdf
Now this really pissed me off...Not because of what you said...not because of what this guy said...no, because it crashed by browser after I typed out this entire reply. Twice.

So, without reading it, I will reply:

I hate to get grammatical on you but...it's not the perspective of the police and the government, it's the perspective of one police chief. Out of all the police chiefs in the nation, you can find one that thinks Hitler is the greatest person that ever lived.

Yes, high speed chases are dangerous despite the training police officers get. It's a dangerous job, they knew that when they signed up. It's a part of our society, someone has to put their life on the line to stop the criminals.
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