taylorspl

This should happen to all thieves.

I enjoyed reading this, I'm sure other car enthusiasts will to because it sucks to have someone screw with your baby.

silent_jay

i can't believe they charged the poor bastard he should have killed the fucker and dumped him in the river like nothing happened, give him cement booties and let the fuck swim with the fishes.

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Snakebyt

yea, sucks he got arrested for protecting his own property... the justice system has gone to shit.. stiffer penalties do not slow down the criminals in the least little bit

phaedrus

Reminds me of American History X. Good movie, never want to watch it again.

If you are friends with this guy, tell him to delete that post and not post anything at all about the ongoing criminal investigation/prosecution against him. Tell him to get a lawyer and shut up. What he posts can be used to hurt him.

And to the people that think the American justice system is fucked up because he may be tried. I disagree. You are allowed to protect yourself and your own, but only to a reasonable degree. If he is tried it is because he used excessive force, or at least because he is believed to have used excessive force. There should be (and is) a limit to the amount of harm you can do someone who is trying to rob you. Ex. When he is not fighting back, you cannot curb him.

irseg

The bastard survived, right? Then the owner of the car didn't use excessive force. If he didn't want to risk his life, then he shouldn't have been breaking into peoples' cars.

taylorspl

If you read through it he only got 6 months probation and has to take an anger management class, all for ONLY nearly beating someone to death. If you read the other post in that thread by that guy they are really funny. But I think his ordeal is over for the most part unless the kid tried to sue him for his extended hospital stay. The theif couldn't even attend court because of sustained injuries Kind of sucks if he was in TX he could have just shot him and been done with it.

castex

Thieves break into a car because those wheels are more important to them than the person holding the keys.
Car owner lays into thief because his own car is worth more to him than the person breaking into it.

"This car is my life, and i have ignored all other facets of life besides building my car".

Both parties are as bad as each other in one respect, while from another angle, only one side in this equation actually committed (serious) violence against another human being... This is a massive cultural problem - things over people - and it's not by any means confined to the USA.

shakran

Ya know, 3 years ago I would have agreed with you. but the crime rate is skyrocketing, the justice system isn't preventing crime at all, and I keep watching criminals enjoy more rights than victims. Doesn't make sense.

IMHO if you commit a crime against someone else, your rights should be thrown out the window. If you get the shit kicked out of you because you were robbing someone, tough. You shouldn't have been doing that. Maybe next time you'll think twice about stealing shit.

By contrast if you get caught by the cops trying to steal a car you get charged with an attempted crime unless you're actually successful. Bullshit point #1 - who cares if you actually did it or not. If you tried to do it you should be just as punishable as if you did it. Then you get a free lawyer (no problem with that) who points out that you have no prior convictions and the judge should therefore be lenient with you. Bullshit point #2. Is there a BETTER time to enact a harsh penalty? Maybe if you had to do some serious jail time you wouldn't do it again. Then you get probation. Bigtime bullshit #3. What the hell is probation? You committed a crime. You screwed up. You should be in jail for it.

Of course if while attempting to rob the car the owner comes out and hits you AT ALL he not only gets charged with assault and battery (and for some reason his penalty scale is always higher than the true crook) but now YOU, the thief, the crook who was trying to commit a crime, get to sue the owner for hurting you, and you'll probably win. We've probably all heard of that case several years back when the robber was crawling around on the roof of the place he wanted to rob when he fell through a skylight and hurt himself. He sued and won because the skylight wasn't tempered and couldn't hold his weight. Jury apparantly didn't care that the asshole had no business whatsoever being up there, and didn't care that even if he did skylights aren't meant to be crawled on. Thief got a lot of money and the owner got shafted. That is grade A bullshit.

If you catch someone in the act of harming you in ANY way you should be allowed to stop them.


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btw, if you read farther into the post, seems the guy beat the thief up one night at 2am, and 2 days later the case had gone to trial and concluded. Seems to have been a bullshit topic anyway

LewisCouch

The thief deserved everything he got, however, the so called justice system frowns heavily on the use of deadly force involving property crimes. The fact that one of the scum bags got away and the other was attempting to, only strengthened the case against the victim.

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Spyder_Venom

Umm didn't anyone read beyond the first page (attempting to raise the BS flag on the whole topic)

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Shauk

yeah go to page 10 and read from there ;P

silly silly.

mystix

talk about too into the car.. but the theif deserves it

Scorps

I think its bullshit that he is being charged with assualt....if I was a cop and was called to something like that I would write the guy up for protecting his car. Like if someone touched my junk pile I would crush there skull(s) in to, my Van be a peace of shit but its still MY van.

Was he supposted to sit back and let them steal his car? I guess so they would tell you to phone the police, then what happens a high speed chase brakes out and your car gets wreaked!

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Elitegibson

That whole thread was a lie. The poster got banned. I think it's definitely the right thing to do to fuck someone up who tries to steal your car, but just enough so that they can't get away until the cops come. No fractured skull-almost death. Doesn't matter how much you spend on a car, it's your car, and if someone wants to make it their car without your permission, they forfeit their right not to get their ass beat.

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mr_mcrafe

Hmm. I guess it's a lot different for car owners with modded cars, because it's not so easy to go grab insurance and get an identical car the next week. Although I would have said beating to near death is going too far, pain that goes away and leaves the guy without serious permanent injuries is probably a better idea. After all the guy is 99% likely to never try to steal a car again. Although is it's your pride and joy it's like taking someway away from you which would be murder if it was a person, so it's a pretty serious deal. A hell of a long prison sentance would be good.

tritium

I can relate with the owner very much and appreciate his immediate passion in defending his car. I probably would have acted out similarly.

But your post bothered me a little bit. How can the victim automatically act as judge and jury in the midst of the crime? How many times can you look back into your experiences and see anger in what was once the present that has subsequently been replaced with apathy or lesser frustration? Not going to belabor the point any further as *that* discussion would belong in the Politics forum.

I'm glad its not real though, for both parties' sake.

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Booboo

I think if you steal something or are caught in the middle of a robbery, you should just have a hand cut off. People would learn real fast.

Theres no excuse for stealing someone elses belongings. I think the guy got what he diserved.

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Scorps

Cutting a hand off would make a mess of your car