Ford Lightning concept - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

sixate · 07-19-2003, 12:22 PM

I really love this, but I hope the ugly yellow interior doesn't make it in the production vehicle.

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The SVT Lightning concept was a surprise during Ford’s unveiling of the all-new 2004 F-150. Launching a 'Whole New Era of Built Ford Tough,' the new F-150 is an all-new full-size pickup architecture designed for more power, refinement and unprecedented driving dynamics capability. It is the star of Ford Motor Company’s biggest-ever wave of new-product introductions at the dawn of its Centennial year. The SVT F-150 Lightning concept features a six-speed manual transmission, independent rear suspension and a 500-horsepower supercharged V-8. It is a powerful combination aimed at extending SVT Lightning’s supremacy into the future.

Deuce66 · 07-19-2003, 01:19 PM

Ehh..too bad its a truck =P Arent trucks for like hauling stuff?? whats with the sports car-trucks?? I think they're hideous..

drawerfixer · 07-19-2003, 02:01 PM

Are those slits in the third pic the exhausts?

tfin · 07-19-2003, 02:10 PM

That engie is beautiful. To bad it wil lnever lok anything like that. Oh yeah, and why don't they throw that in to a stang? Oh well it is ford, what do we expect.

WarWagon · 07-19-2003, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by tfin
Oh yeah, and why don't they throw that in to a stang?

Heh, they did, its called the cobra

Just messin' with ya. I dunno, I think I like the looks of the original Lightning better.

Drawerfixer: Not the exhaust. Might be heat extractors but I doubt it, likely just cosmetic. The truck has side exhaust outlets, just in front of the rear wheel well.

drawerfixer · 07-19-2003, 04:17 PM

Ah, I see it now. Thanks WW.

LaZy · 07-20-2003, 12:24 AM

looks good. except for the big bird interior.

Tech · 07-20-2003, 01:38 AM

yeah it's sweet... i want to see how the Dodge Ram with the V-10 fairs against it... should be a nice rivalry

zfleebin · 07-20-2003, 03:41 AM

Deuce66: what you dont like the fact a truck can outrace you?
drawerfixer: looks like the air intake from a functional ram air hood

LaZy · 07-20-2003, 10:31 AM

uhh zlfee with regard to drawerfixers question....i think your looking at the wrong picture

i was about to say what you just said when i posted. count the pictures again.

Deuce66 · 07-20-2003, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by zfleebin
Deuce66: what you dont like the fact a truck can outrace you?

Quarter Mile? I suppose.

Track? Not a chance in hell =P No truck will EVER outmanuver a race-worthy car on a track.

Tech · 07-20-2003, 01:35 PM

the rear slits are to allow air to escape. you'll see stuff like it on aftermarket rice bumpers and on most exotics you will just find empty space, not even a slit.

without them, air carried under the car gets trapped in the rear bumber and creates a certain degree of drag, the slits allow that air to escape.

SweetVroom · 07-20-2003, 02:20 PM

This not only looks good but seems like it'll actually be fast too!

zfleebin · 07-20-2003, 04:03 PM

Deuce66: Thats a pretty big statement. You do realize this is not a racetruck but a sport truck right? The 03 is pushing 380hp stock and running in the twelves right off the lot. It will cost you less money to work up the suspension on it than it will to build up the power of 90% of the sports cars anywhere near its price range. and then when its done outracing you it will tow you home.

Mill · 07-20-2003, 04:28 PM

Didn't Car and Driver say that thing was going to pump out close to 500hp?

zfleebin · 07-20-2003, 05:07 PM

The 2004 probably will but the 2003 only pushes 380hp. The real fun will be when the srt10 comes out with 500 naturally aspirated ponies.

Deuce66 · 07-20-2003, 05:57 PM

HP doesnt mean anything when you cant maneuver. My 318ti is about 180hp (not stock..N/A). It weighs around 1/2 what that truck weighs, with a perfect 50/50 weight balance.. Oh, its also 40 inches shorter, has more downforce, and less drag.

Like I said. I'd lose in the quarter mile, but thats not what I got my car for.

zfleebin · 07-20-2003, 07:44 PM

Deuce66: Look man I am not trying to flame you but you have made some comments against a whole breed of vehicles and I have trouble believing you have even driven one. Have you ever driven a Lightning? Do you think that your vehicle would outrun a lightning on the track? I am thinking I could probably take your car with my Hemi but well never know. How much does your car weigh?

Deuce66 · 07-20-2003, 08:01 PM

I never said I dislike trucks. What I said is, I see no reason to race them..Its not what they're made for.

As for my car, its a 1998 BMW 318ti, with a few modifications (exhaust, intake, cpu, exhaust manifold). It weighs about 2800 pounds with a half-full tank of gas, and me in it. I looked up the specs on the lightning. It weighs 5000 pounds, its much longer, taller, and wider.

With 500hp, it would kill me on the 1/4 mile, but a truck just can not compete with a "sports car" on a race track, IMO. And If I had the 30k that the SVT lightning costs to spend on my 318, I'd destroy it, even 1/4 mile.

I love trucks for what they were built for, and I have used them for such, but I find the idea of tricking them out to race to be silly. Thats all.

Deuce66 · 07-20-2003, 08:05 PM

Btw, maybe I'm nuts, but I really dig that interior =P

And I dont mean to come off like an asshole, if thats the car you want, thats cool, but I dont appreciate it when someone says a truck can out-race a regular car or sports car. =P

zfleebin · 07-20-2003, 08:21 PM

Alright I think its just come down to a matter of differing opinions. I respect your view and will not preach anymore because I dont have any races to reference to. Thank you for the debate and I am sorry if I offended you.

89transam · 07-20-2003, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Deuce66
I dont appreciate it when someone says a truck can out-race a regular car or sports car. =P

Are you serious?

I think it looks nice but it seems like they are making all these really boxy concept cars but they arent making it to the road.

Cynthetiq · 07-21-2003, 06:14 AM

it's a neat truck

drawerfixer · 07-21-2003, 11:19 AM

I think the outside looks grand. I like their truck 'Tonka' truck direction. The inside was fine, as long as a different color is available.

Another question for the mech smarties: Do those 'vents' right in front of the doors simply let out hot air, or is something hooked up to it?

phatman · 07-22-2003, 03:57 PM

with an independent rear suspension and the correct tweaking the older lightnings were great on the autocross tracks. Ive driven an older lightning and it was surprisingly nimble. Plus the ability to throttle oversteer is a big help.

Atomic Pinkie · 07-22-2003, 11:16 PM

heh, if you're tall(im 6'4" you get your head fucking pushed through the roof in that cab. I will never ever sit in one of those fucking things. I don't care HOW fast they are. You can go race other trucks.

07-23-2003, 12:01 AM

sexy engine compartment

TwistedFate · 07-23-2003, 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by drawerfixer
Another question for the mech smarties: Do those 'vents' right in front of the doors simply let out hot air, or is something hooked up to it?

Sort of, they help draw air in and through the engine bay. This increases the clean air that gets in to the engine for combustion and helps to cool the engine as well.

NOTE: I don't know this for a fact as I have never seen this truck up close, that is just based on similar vents on other vehicles. I have vents in my engine lid that serve this purpose. My engine, however, is in the back of the car where fresh air can be a little hard to come by without some help. Somebody may know more than me on that subject.

cookiezzz · 07-23-2003, 10:23 AM

It looks like the bastard child of a Mustang GT that had sex with a ford truck. I don't know what to say. I'm not really into trucks though.

terpie · 07-23-2003, 10:52 AM

JS -- pretty cool looking car. When are they thinking about putting it into production?

Tickford · 07-28-2003, 10:31 PM

That looks killa.....

The.Lunatic · 07-28-2003, 10:34 PM

Fugly ++

i'm not down with those new trucks that look like they're a plasic tonka truck

Peryn · 07-29-2003, 09:24 AM

Forgot what it was called, i think there "SuperCooler" or something? Anway, basically refridgerates a tank of air, for a short increased power shot...sorta similar to nitrous, but dont hafta worry about buying more. I think thats in 04 or 05, and they use it when making their HP claims, so normal driving would be close to 50HP less i think. dont quote me on that, i dont have any of the number in front of me, just trying to go from memory.

Anyway, as far as the lightning goes, i think i prefer the Harley Davidson Edition. Basically same powerplant, but with extra cab room. Anyone know if they are gonna make Harley version of that concept?

FastShark85 · 07-29-2003, 10:35 AM

It's nice to see a "ram air" hood that actually is used for something. I can't stand the Pontiacs and Mustangs that have the useless, fake hood slits.....they're like a girl who stuffs her bra with tissue....looks nice till it counts.

tinfoil · 07-29-2003, 11:49 AM

That's quite a nice truck actually. I would really seriously consider owning a truck if that was the one I could own.

castex · 07-29-2003, 12:15 PM

All the weight's at the front. A challenge, certainly, to drive fast, and a fun one

Unfortunately, to go really fast it'll need a couple of bags of cement, or passengers, strapped down tight in the back.
I do like the wheels.

Moonduck · 07-29-2003, 07:16 PM

I rather dislike how it looks. Love that engine bay though. Too bad the bay will never hit production like that.

As to it not being able to handle, the Lightning has been turning remarkable times on the track for quite some time. Sure, physics is not your friend in a vehicle this large and with the weight distributed as it is, but don't knock it until you've tried it.

07-19-2003, 02:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
drawerfixer Stonerific Location: Colorado	Are those slits in the third pic the exhausts? __________________ They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

07-19-2003, 02:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
tfin Insane Location: At the Casino	That engie is beautiful. To bad it wil lnever lok anything like that. Oh yeah, and why don't they throw that in to a stang? Oh well it is ford, what do we expect. __________________ Did I mention that I can't spell or type? Oh yeah, check out my car www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=275916

07-19-2003, 04:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
drawerfixer Stonerific Location: Colorado	Ah, I see it now. Thanks WW. __________________ They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

07-20-2003, 12:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
LaZy Crazy Location: AZ	looks good. except for the big bird interior. __________________ Ideas pull the trigger, but instinct loads the gun. I know who you are!

07-20-2003, 01:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
Tech Addict Location: Baltimore MD	yeah it's sweet... i want to see how the Dodge Ram with the V-10 fairs against it... should be a nice rivalry __________________ -Tim- ~I swear sometimes i feel like i'm married to a child. ~You better watch who you're calling a child, Lois, cause if i'm a child than you know what that makes you? a pedophile. and i'll be damned if i'm going to stand here and be lectured by a pervert.

07-19-2003, 01:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Deuce66 Tilted	Ehh..too bad its a truck =P Arent trucks for like hauling stuff?? whats with the sports car-trucks?? I think they're hideous..

07-20-2003, 03:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	Deuce66: what you dont like the fact a truck can outrace you? drawerfixer: looks like the air intake from a functional ram air hood

07-20-2003, 10:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
LaZy Crazy Location: AZ	uhh zlfee with regard to drawerfixers question....i think your looking at the wrong picture i was about to say what you just said when i posted. count the pictures again. __________________ Ideas pull the trigger, but instinct loads the gun. I know who you are!

07-20-2003, 01:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tech Addict Location: Baltimore MD	the rear slits are to allow air to escape. you'll see stuff like it on aftermarket rice bumpers and on most exotics you will just find empty space, not even a slit. without them, air carried under the car gets trapped in the rear bumber and creates a certain degree of drag, the slits allow that air to escape. __________________ -Tim- ~I swear sometimes i feel like i'm married to a child. ~You better watch who you're calling a child, Lois, cause if i'm a child than you know what that makes you? a pedophile. and i'll be damned if i'm going to stand here and be lectured by a pervert.

07-20-2003, 02:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
SweetVroom Tilted	This not only looks good but seems like it'll actually be fast too!

07-20-2003, 04:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	Deuce66: Thats a pretty big statement. You do realize this is not a racetruck but a sport truck right? The 03 is pushing 380hp stock and running in the twelves right off the lot. It will cost you less money to work up the suspension on it than it will to build up the power of 90% of the sports cars anywhere near its price range. and then when its done outracing you it will tow you home.

07-20-2003, 04:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mill Psycho Location: Center of the Universe	Didn't Car and Driver say that thing was going to pump out close to 500hp?

07-20-2003, 05:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	The 2004 probably will but the 2003 only pushes 380hp. The real fun will be when the srt10 comes out with 500 naturally aspirated ponies.

07-20-2003, 05:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
Deuce66 Tilted	HP doesnt mean anything when you cant maneuver. My 318ti is about 180hp (not stock..N/A). It weighs around 1/2 what that truck weighs, with a perfect 50/50 weight balance.. Oh, its also 40 inches shorter, has more downforce, and less drag. Like I said. I'd lose in the quarter mile, but thats not what I got my car for.

07-20-2003, 07:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	Deuce66: Look man I am not trying to flame you but you have made some comments against a whole breed of vehicles and I have trouble believing you have even driven one. Have you ever driven a Lightning? Do you think that your vehicle would outrun a lightning on the track? I am thinking I could probably take your car with my Hemi but well never know. How much does your car weigh?

07-21-2003, 06:14 AM	#23 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	it's a neat truck __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

07-23-2003, 12:01 AM	#27 (permalink)
NotMinus Guest	sexy engine compartment

07-20-2003, 08:01 PM	#19 (permalink)
Deuce66 Tilted	I never said I dislike trucks. What I said is, I see no reason to race them..Its not what they're made for. As for my car, its a 1998 BMW 318ti, with a few modifications (exhaust, intake, cpu, exhaust manifold). It weighs about 2800 pounds with a half-full tank of gas, and me in it. I looked up the specs on the lightning. It weighs 5000 pounds, its much longer, taller, and wider. With 500hp, it would kill me on the 1/4 mile, but a truck just can not compete with a "sports car" on a race track, IMO. And If I had the 30k that the SVT lightning costs to spend on my 318, I'd destroy it, even 1/4 mile. I love trucks for what they were built for, and I have used them for such, but I find the idea of tricking them out to race to be silly. Thats all.

07-20-2003, 08:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
Deuce66 Tilted	Btw, maybe I'm nuts, but I really dig that interior =P And I dont mean to come off like an asshole, if thats the car you want, thats cool, but I dont appreciate it when someone says a truck can out-race a regular car or sports car. =P

07-20-2003, 08:21 PM	#21 (permalink)
zfleebin Addict	Alright I think its just come down to a matter of differing opinions. I respect your view and will not preach anymore because I dont have any races to reference to. Thank you for the debate and I am sorry if I offended you.

07-21-2003, 11:19 AM	#24 (permalink)
drawerfixer Stonerific Location: Colorado	I think the outside looks grand. I like their truck 'Tonka' truck direction. The inside was fine, as long as a different color is available. Another question for the mech smarties: Do those 'vents' right in front of the doors simply let out hot air, or is something hooked up to it? __________________ They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

07-22-2003, 03:57 PM	#25 (permalink)
phatman Upright Location: Philadelphia	with an independent rear suspension and the correct tweaking the older lightnings were great on the autocross tracks. Ive driven an older lightning and it was surprisingly nimble. Plus the ability to throttle oversteer is a big help. __________________ You dont get this fat from eating fucking ramen.

07-22-2003, 11:16 PM	#26 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	heh, if you're tall(im 6'4" you get your head fucking pushed through the roof in that cab. I will never ever sit in one of those fucking things. I don't care HOW fast they are. You can go race other trucks. __________________ Where dem bitches at?

07-23-2003, 10:23 AM	#29 (permalink)
cookiezzz Tilted	It looks like the bastard child of a Mustang GT that had sex with a ford truck. I don't know what to say. I'm not really into trucks though.

07-23-2003, 10:52 AM	#30 (permalink)
terpie Tilted	JS -- pretty cool looking car. When are they thinking about putting it into production?

07-28-2003, 10:31 PM	#31 (permalink)
Tickford Insane Location: Australia	That looks killa..... __________________ Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. Samuel Goldwyn

07-28-2003, 10:34 PM	#32 (permalink)
The.Lunatic Psycho Location: Somewhere just beyond the realm of sanity...	Fugly ++ i'm not down with those new trucks that look like they're a plasic tonka truck

07-29-2003, 09:24 AM	#33 (permalink)
Peryn Junkie Location: San Diego, CA.	Forgot what it was called, i think there "SuperCooler" or something? Anway, basically refridgerates a tank of air, for a short increased power shot...sorta similar to nitrous, but dont hafta worry about buying more. I think thats in 04 or 05, and they use it when making their HP claims, so normal driving would be close to 50HP less i think. dont quote me on that, i dont have any of the number in front of me, just trying to go from memory. Anyway, as far as the lightning goes, i think i prefer the Harley Davidson Edition. Basically same powerplant, but with extra cab room. Anyone know if they are gonna make Harley version of that concept? __________________ Dont cry kid, It's not your fault you suck. Last edited by Peryn; 07-31-2003 at 09:40 AM..

07-29-2003, 10:35 AM	#34 (permalink)
FastShark85 Psycho Location: In the garage, under the car.	It's nice to see a "ram air" hood that actually is used for something. I can't stand the Pontiacs and Mustangs that have the useless, fake hood slits.....they're like a girl who stuffs her bra with tissue....looks nice till it counts.

07-29-2003, 11:49 AM	#35 (permalink)
tinfoil Fucking Hostile Location: Springford, ON, Canada	That's quite a nice truck actually. I would really seriously consider owning a truck if that was the one I could own. __________________ Get off your fuckin cross. We need the fuckin space to nail the next fool martyr.

07-29-2003, 12:15 PM	#36 (permalink)
castex Psycho Location: france	All the weight's at the front. A challenge, certainly, to drive fast, and a fun one Unfortunately, to go really fast it'll need a couple of bags of cement, or passengers, strapped down tight in the back. I do like the wheels.

07-29-2003, 07:16 PM	#37 (permalink)
Moonduck Junkie Location: SE USA	I rather dislike how it looks. Love that engine bay though. Too bad the bay will never hit production like that. As to it not being able to handle, the Lightning has been turning remarkable times on the track for quite some time. Sure, physics is not your friend in a vehicle this large and with the weight distributed as it is, but don't knock it until you've tried it.