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Old 04-21-2003, 02:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Rubber Fuel Lines Vs. Braided Steel

how safe is running rubber hosing from the existing end of the fuel line(where the carb hooked up) to the carb(i have another end thing thats cut off) and clamping it
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Old 04-21-2003, 02:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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as you can tell i have no idea what the fuck i am doing...but my quadrajet(bah) took a shit and i have 2 holleys, that i THINK work, but the fuel inlet is on the oposite side than the Qjet, and all i have is stock hard lines that are too short, how difficult is it to run braided lines from pump to carb or wherever?
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Old 04-21-2003, 02:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If you have it laying on the hot intake, go with the ss braid,better to be safe than sorry. If you go with the rubber make sure its fuel rated gas line which should be thick will take some abuse.

One of the cars I've had in the past had a weird arrangement where@ the fuel tank it had steel lines and then rubber lines back to steel line. This was at an area I guess that it need to be flexable. I had to replace the existing rubber lines they had. Rubber startedto break down started as a small fuel leak.

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Old 04-21-2003, 04:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You ought to be able to cut the hardline above the intake and run a piece of 3/8" rubber fuel line from the end of the hardline to the new Holley.

Just make sure the Holley will fit, Q-Jets may be crappy, but rebuilding one or finding a new one should be a piece of cake.
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Old 04-21-2003, 05:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I have the same setup on my truck..... Just get a fitting from the autoparts store called a nipple... it will screw into the fuel pump and all you have to do is clamp the hose... take the old fitting with you so you get the right thread size.... as to the hose, just use regular rubber fuel line.... route it from the carb right to left with enough slack to keep away from the engine and either make a bracket to hold it in place or do what I did and use some bailing wire.... Mines been that way for two years without a problem.
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Old 04-21-2003, 05:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Didn't you get a Edelbrock intake with that set of heads you bought?.... the Holley will fit on that but if the intake is a stocker you will have to get a adapter...
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Old 04-21-2003, 05:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Rebuilding one or finding a new one should be a piece of cake.
Rebuilding Quadrajet carbs is a pain in the ass, just taking then apart is a pain in the ass.... and if you don't get everything just right they won't work for shit.... Holleys on the other hand are very easy to rebuild, and the kit only costs about $20.
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Old 04-21-2003, 06:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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They are not a pain in the ass. Read a book. Learn a little. Q Jets are no harder than Holleys and the kits will run within a few dollars of eachother.
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
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They are not a pain in the ass. Read a book. Learn a little. Q Jets are no harder than Holleys and the kits will run within a few dollars of eachother.
I have rebuilt Q-Jets, and yes they are a pain in the ass.... lots of different size screws, four floats that have to be just right.... they arn't THAT hard to rebuild but I wouldn't advise a novice to tear one apart, rebuild it and expect it to work right.... Holleys are easy to rebuild, any novice can rebuild one with no problem and have it work fine.... plus you can adjust the floats from the outside, a common problem for the novice rebuilder.....
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Old 04-22-2003, 01:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have rebuilt Q-Jets, and yes they are a pain in the ass.... lots of different size screws, four floats that have to be just right.... they arn't THAT hard to rebuild but I wouldn't advise a novice to tear one apart, rebuild it and expect it to work right.... Holleys are easy to rebuild, any novice can rebuild one with no problem and have it work fine.... plus you can adjust the floats from the outside, a common problem for the novice rebuilder.....
4 floats? Thats a 4G or Carter style. Both square bores. Neither one a Q jet. I WOULD advise a novice tear into one. How else is a novice going to learn to not be a novice anymore?
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Old 04-22-2003, 05:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have ran rubber line before...it works perfectly fine.....and i'll agree with ashton...rebuilt quadrajunks are a pain in the ass. And squarebore carb is almost always easier than a spread bore.
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Old 04-22-2003, 10:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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whats the difference between spread and square?

Intake: Edelbrock Proformer RPM (the $129 one)
Heads:Cast iron, and look exactly liek what i took off, other than that i have no idea(port sizes and shit)

my truck is a 73 chevy stepside w/ utility fenders www.urbandev.net/truck (really shitty pics)

The whole story...

i was working on getting my valves set right and got fed up with that, so i decided i was going to put my new mufflers on (flowmaster 40's) and i left my hood off for 2 nights in the fog...not a smart idea, but the fog would have just gotten in underneath anyway...

so i got my old mufflers off (lots of delicate griding and hammer action) and slid my flows on and tightened them down and shit, rehung it and bolted it to the manifolds, went to start it and it wouldnt start...went to bed

next day i unhooked my fuel line from the carb to see if it was the pump, put bucket under the line and turned it over a couple times, gas came out, so i hooked my carb back up and tried again after replacing the ilter and all that type shit, nothing still, its not spraying at all, so the guy i sold my falcon to gave my 2 holley carbs that are kinda old but he said they worked great, but my hard lines dont reach...so here i am
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yeah..... the floats are stuck on the Quadrajunk.... screw that POS carb, mount one of those Holleys.... don't listen to MM... you'll end up pulling your hair out and cursing him after you get that thing apart, looking at all the parts and saying......

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Old 04-22-2003, 11:32 PM   #16 (permalink)
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And MM...... before you get your panties in a knot I'll admit I was thinking about the POS carter carbs in my 59 Criss Craft..... they were the carbs with four floats, but he wants to get his truck running.... not become a master of the Quadrajunk, I just want to help him get the truck running..... and without being there all I can do is give him the advice that a novice can understand, Reading some line like "go for it, you can do it!" sounds great until you try and there's no one to help you when you get stuck.... then you get pissed off and give up, Mounting a good Holley and having the truck run will be much better than fucking up tying to rebuild a Quadrajunk and having it not work after you're done.....
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:46 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Oh.... one more thing Urbandev, If the Quadrajunk fit on that Edelbrock without a adapter it is made for Quadrajunks... all you have to do is buy a $20 adapter to fit the Holley.
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Old 04-23-2003, 12:54 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Its ok Ashton, no panties bunching here. I was not trying to insult you, merely point out that the Q-Jet wasn't as bad as adjusting 4 floats. Is rebuilding a Q-Jet fun? No way, I hate them. My car has a 3310 on it. But, learning to rebuild and tune a Q-Jet makes the switch to a Holley just that much more fun. After learning to dial in a Q-Jet tuning a Holley is easy work. Lots of people think Q-Jets are worthless. Did you know that Q-Jets actually out torque Holleys? A Q-Jet flows a lot, the smallest are 750cfm. A Q-Jet can teach you things. I can't imagine not wanting to learn. I just can't. *shrug* To each their own.
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Old 04-23-2003, 02:06 AM   #19 (permalink)
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is my engine supose to be lower in the back?
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Old 04-23-2003, 02:14 AM   #20 (permalink)
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The culprit.
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Old 04-23-2003, 02:16 AM   #21 (permalink)
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like my fuckin brand new cast iron theristat housing i forgot to do something with...rusted the hell out of it
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Old 04-23-2003, 11:34 AM   #22 (permalink)
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another question...
the quadrajet has a port in the back of it for the brakes, te holleys do not, wtf shoul di do about this?
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Old 04-23-2003, 11:35 AM   #23 (permalink)
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seeing as brakes are generally good to have...heh
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Old 04-23-2003, 12:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The Holley should have a port on the side.... take a pic of it so I can tell which model Holley it is. This one is a 650 cfm

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Old 04-23-2003, 12:11 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Teh fuel line....



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Old 04-23-2003, 01:07 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I can't imagine not wanting to learn. I just can't. *shrug* To each their own.
Learning is great, I learned how to wrench from a Master Mechanic.... He owned a restoration shop, I got to wrench on Jags, Rolls, Benz, Packard..... you name it. but when all you want is to get back on the road, and you're just learning how to wrench, the easiest way is the best way..... doing something complicated just leads to frustration, and giving up. I will agree that Quadrajets are excellent carbs when new.... and even better when well tuned, but they are very picky carbs.... getting them set up and idling smooth takes someone with a ear for engines, Holley's on the other hand are very simple carbs....... perfect for a novice
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Old 04-23-2003, 07:52 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 04-23-2003, 07:53 PM   #28 (permalink)
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there is 2 of them, the otherone is in better looking condition, but its ass cold outside and dark so i didnt feel like getting it off my truck
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:12 AM   #29 (permalink)
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The carb In the pic was build for a ford...... it will work on a chevy but you need the throttle linkage stuff to hook it up to a chevy..... take a pic of the other carb.......
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:24 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Another thing..... looking pretty on the outside means nothing to a carb, what matters is if the carb sat dry or with gas inside..... gas turns to a nasty varnish if left inside for a long time, and that varnish really gums up the works.... A carb with dried up gas inside is pretty much screwed unless you take it all apart and clean out EVERY nook and cranny....and I mean EVERY little nook and cranny..... so hopefully the carb was ran dry before it was taken off......
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:34 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Ill take some pics of the other one tommorow when ever i wake up, what is your truck ashton?
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Old 04-25-2003, 01:18 AM   #32 (permalink)
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It's a 1972 Chevy 1/2 ton.... with the 6 foot stepside bed, it's a beast.... Goverment green, heavy duty everything, It's totally ugly but I rebuilt the engine (350), the tranny (Turbo400), the rearend (Positraction) and rewired the charging system... added dual exhaust with flowmasters..... It's a 'sleeper', it looks like a piece of shit but can haul ass.... I don't drive it much except to haul crap around like my dirt bikes and pull my boat, All my friends love "Godzilla"... especially when they need someone to help them move or take stuff to the dump.... or pull out tree stumps!
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Old 04-28-2003, 01:10 AM   #34 (permalink)
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calm down there bitchtits, its been raining like hell and im waiting to get a pic of carb #2, but im thinking about just getting one of the refurbed edelbrock 650's out of summit for $189 (polished, machanical choke) i have $250 to spend...

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Old 05-01-2003, 10:25 PM   #35 (permalink)
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shoul di just get the refurb'ed one from summit? (at least i'll know it will work for a while)
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Old 05-02-2003, 02:49 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Old 05-04-2003, 10:06 PM   #37 (permalink)
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i got another used QJet from my cousin...put it on and my coil is coroded as fuck...along with my battery...so now i need a coil, battery, and carb
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Old 05-06-2003, 10:58 PM   #38 (permalink)
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battery seems to hold...so i ordered a new coil and to to distributer wire from summit...the carb smells of gas after cranking...good , so my stupid impatient ass is going to clean it out before i actully run it, where do i start this process?
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Old 05-07-2003, 12:48 AM   #39 (permalink)
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First: Get this book - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...165153-1168125

Then, using that book, rip into the carb. It shouldn't require anything else special.

Purely out of curiosity though, which Q Jet do you actually have? There are about 20 different combos when you factor in all of the chokes/pulloff styles/flow ratings/computer controlled.
Just one thing though.......it sounds like this carb is OK. Why take it apart?
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Old 05-07-2003, 11:39 AM   #40 (permalink)
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not taking it apart, cleaning all the 'funk' off of it
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