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Old 07-15-2004, 06:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Freshwater frogs for our pond?

Hey guys-

We're doing a huge landscaping project to our house and we added a waterfall/pond to our front yard. We're getting some Koi fish, and I guess they can live without being fed from natural sedeiment and such.

Are there any frogs that can do this as well? We've got a creek behind our house and hear tons of frogs during certain times of the year. We figure they might naturally settle in the pond. Is there any way we can initiate this?

Thanks for any info.
-T
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Old 07-15-2004, 07:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I would try abducting some tadpoles from another pond, if they grow up in your, it might jsut become their home. But then again they way be eaten by the koi. So abduct a lot.
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Old 07-15-2004, 07:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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We're yet to get the koi, so maybe I can start now. Is it too early for the tadpole to survive? The water is fresh and only has regular dirt sediment and a few new plants in it.

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Old 07-15-2004, 07:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I hope you do not have raccoons in your area - otherwise you are just setting up a buffet for them.

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Old 07-15-2004, 08:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Lol, yeah we actually do, but we've got a pretty serious fence around our yard that keeps our dogs in. I think it shouldn't be a problem, unless we've got some racoons that'l do anything it takes to go fishing
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Old 07-16-2004, 04:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Frogs will get in, don't worry about that.

As for the koi, no, they will NOT live off sediment and the likes.

Koi will eventually attain a size of 3'/1m, and can put on 3-6" a year when young, slowing down as they get older.
They need to be fed from when the temperature is above 10c early spring, to right until it drops back down in late august.

What kind of gallonage is this pond, or what are the rough dimensions, do you have any filtration in there?


Sorry about all the questions, but i work with fish and ponds for a living, and i've got a personal duty of care i like to extend to it.
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Old 07-16-2004, 09:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Glad that you found my thread, Stevie

I can't really guess the gallonage, but the pond is probably 4 feet wide, 7 feet long, and 2.5 feet deep.

It does have a filtration unit within the pump for the waterfall.

I'll go ahead and ask the landscape architect again about the Koi to double check.

Also, is there any sence in collecting frogs/tadpoles or will they find the pond for sure? It's probably 75 yards from the creek, uphill, so they might not...

Thanks for any info.
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Old 07-16-2004, 09:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Glad that you found my thread, Stevie

I can't really guess the gallonage, but the pond is probably 4 feet wide, 7 feet long, and 2.5 feet deep.

Also, is there any sence in collecting frogs/tadpoles or will they find the pond for sure? It's probably 75 yards from the creek, uphill, so they might not...

Thanks for any info.
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Your looking about 750-800 gallons in that pond.
Where abouts exactly in the world do you live, and how cold are the winter months?

The frogs will get there on their own, but you could remove some spawn. Be discrete if you do it though, there are usually laws against removing wildlife from it's natural enviroment.
A better choice would be to see if a friend has any clogging up their pond.
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Old 07-16-2004, 12:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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This sounds like it's going to be an uber pond !!
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Old 07-16-2004, 01:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hey guys.

We're in the suburbs of San Francisco, California. The chilliest of winter nights/mornings might hit as low as 30degrees farenheit. Summer mornings are probably in the 55-60's. It might up to 100+ in the heat of the summer.

Thanks for the info. I'll do some more research.
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Old 07-17-2004, 08:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm afraid that pond really won't be suitable for Koi, they need about 4' of water in the winter so that the lower layers are warm enough for them.

Try getting things like shubunkins and goldfish, which will happily live and thrive in there.
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Old 07-17-2004, 09:47 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'll look into those fish. We really aren't set on Koi, it's just that the landscaper recomended them.

Thanks
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