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View Poll Results: What should I do with the postcards?
Not send them back. 4 40.00%
Send one back, not the other, and see what happens. 1 10.00%
Send them both back. 5 50.00%
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Old 09-29-2003, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What should Gov135 do? An affirmative action question.

As some of you probably know, I recently completed my requirements for another (higher) degree. Having pocketed this piece of paper, I have been looking to improve my lot in life by getting a real nice job. So I have been submitting my resume (in confidence) for some better opportunities.

Over the course of the last few weeks, I have applied for several positions. Two firms I applied to sent me Business Reply Mail, essentially a postcard acknowledging my application. But they have also asked me to send them demographic information for their "affirmative action programs." Essentially, the questionnaires ask two questions: one about sex and one about race.

I am a white male and am qualified for the position. So, the question is "should I send back the postcards?" On one hand, I really want to send the cards back, to show the prospective employers that I am still very much interested. I kinda feel like not sending the cards back may be viewed as someone who is less interested or not reliable.

On the other hand, I really want an interview with these firms, spent alot of time on cover letters, etc - and I am afraid that sending back the cards will decrease my chances of being able to interview for the positions.

The cards both dance around whether or not this information is pertinent. For example, one reads "The information provided will be used only in accordance with _(company name)_'s Affirmative Action Program." Whatever the hell that means. Each card is marked, printed, with the position I am applying for. I am to write in my name.

So, what should I do? I really just want the chance to interview for the positions. Should I send in the cards or not? Send in one, and not the other and see what happens?

The intention of this is not to discuss the merits/problems of affirmative action. I just want advice on a plan of action for me. Please give your reasoning below after voting.

Thanks.
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Old 09-29-2003, 10:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm a diverse candidate and I don't send in those cards. It's not anyone's business but my own until you hire me are you allowed to ask such questions.

but then again.. I'm also a man of too high principle and will not take a job because they need to fill demographics... you want be for my skills and abilities, not my skin color.
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Old 09-29-2003, 10:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Dude, that's a toughy... Legally I don't think they can do that. If you are qualified on paper, it doesn't matter what you look like. I'll ask around, but I certainly wouldn't send it back.
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Old 09-29-2003, 02:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you don't send it back, the other dude who happens to be a minority will and possibly not be as qualified for the job but he'll get it anyway... It all depends what they're looking for. If thier Company is lacking in White Males, you have your foot in the door. Send it in and if they don't call, follow up on why you didn't get interviewed. If you are truly qualified, they have to call you...
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Old 10-01-2003, 06:41 AM   #5 (permalink)
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We have to note on our hiring forms (after we have choosen a person for the job) all of that. Race, sex, education, etc. They may truly need that info for after the fact.
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