Vaccine for Acne? Dont u think they can develop one? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

mattgical · 08-05-2003, 11:38 AM

Just doing random thoughts at work and i was wondering,

dont you think they can come up with a vaccine for Acne, sorta like for measles and chicken pox. You know, u can get the shot at age 8 or something and not have to live with the pain and emotional distress that comes with acne.

but then i though, that would never happen, cuz then all the cosmetics companies and pharmaceuticals would lose billions!

am i alone in this?

butthead · 08-05-2003, 12:58 PM

Acne can be treated once you have it, provided you don't have an asshole doctor who says "if I had a dime for every kid wanting treatment..."

cliche · 08-05-2003, 01:21 PM

Problem with acne is it's more an overgrowth of normal skin bacteria rather than an infection (hence you can't 'catch' it off people). Though, seeing as some bacteria are more likely to cause problems than others it may be possible...

And, as butthead says, there are plenty of really pretty good treatments for acne available from your doctor.

cetacean · 08-07-2003, 03:03 PM

I keep hearing accutane works very well, but also makes you depressed. How ironic. Just like propecia, it gives you hair, but you lose your sexual apetite...

CrazyIntent · 08-07-2003, 07:48 PM

Accutane is a kind of a last-resort acne medication for those with severe acne. Most dermatologists will prescribe retin-a or antibiotics to begin with.

MacGnG · 08-08-2003, 12:07 AM

there are medicines to control acne but to creat something to prevent it would be chnaging how your skin works

acne is just your bodies response to dirt and oils. it's trying to fight icky stuff, but thats just how it works

it would b great but acne soap is what i've been using and it's been working pretty well.

wario · 08-08-2003, 03:19 AM

Acne will never be cured. It's all part of making the "awkward teen years" that much more awkward.

mattgical · 08-08-2003, 11:41 AM

i wonder why some people have perfect skin in their teen years then.

too bad u cant take their DNA and share it with everyone else.

BadForm · 08-08-2003, 01:44 PM

Just to reiterate - Accutane has severe side effects. There have long been questions surrounding any emotional side effects. I knew a kid in high-school who had to be taken off of it because his body lost the ability to process some fatty acid, and it the levels got so high in his blood that they thought he might suffer from liver failure. Couldn't eat any fat for week or so until he was safe.

blackdas · 08-09-2003, 03:23 PM

Acne can't be cured...maybe in older people, but teens will always have it once they start making mass amounts of hormones.

degarg · 08-09-2003, 07:56 PM

Lots of acne is different..

I only get acne from cheese and dairy products due to an allergy. So they can't really get a vaccine or something like that for all acne IMO atleast.

phukraut · 08-09-2003, 08:35 PM

try Retisol A 0.05%. it works pretty good.

and acutane has another side effect: extreme dryness of skin. on the one hand, your hair doesn't get as oily, which is good. but on the other hand, your skin flakes, and you are more prone to things like nosebleeds.

limited · 08-14-2003, 05:49 PM

I was on Accutane, so I know a good amount about it.
Blood tests are given before you even start and while you are on it to insure that your liver (enzymes) function properly. Like another poster mentioned, depression is a side effect. That didn't occur with me, although while I was on it I remember a story about a kid on Accutane comitting suicide. He had been taking it for a year and in a larger dosage than I. My total treatment time lasted 6 months and cleared up my acne incredibly. If anyone has a questions on the power of accutance, i'll post a before and after if i can find one. Accutane was prescribed as a last resort, I was on Benzemyacin topical gel, erythromyacin antibiotic pills for a few months, then Retin-A cream before making the decision for Accutane.

Edit: Anyone on Accutane will have pretty dry lips. I definitely lived on chapstick.

lafemmefatale · 08-14-2003, 09:30 PM

interesitng thing, my parents never had acne as teens and i did...not an aggravating amount...and i still get it now and then depending on what i eat. The diff is they use to live in China, while i moved before my teenage years. Therefore, it is most likely something to do with the western diet? So any prevention measures would be to not eat all the foods you love

or be prepared to spend a small fourtune on acne products

limited · 08-14-2003, 11:31 PM

Diet definitely plays a role in acne, eat greasier foods live with the effects. Ever see the kids in McD's or BK's that are covered with zits? Its all the oil from the deep fryer that just hangs out in the air. I'm not an expert on chinese cuisine, but I'll take a guess that its not fried anywhere as much as in the good Ol' USA. Hell we even fry our veggies. Godbless the bloomin' onion.

soccerchamp76 · 08-15-2003, 11:34 PM

Read the labels on acne medications....msot are salicylic acid, 2%. Well, salicylic acid is used in acne treatments and dandruff treatments in low dosage (2% average). Well salicylic acid is used in wart removals, at around 20%. So if you have a huge pimple that you want to get rid of, try using some wart removal to get that sucker out. I have yet to try my theory but it should work, not as prevention, but to get rid of pre-existing ones.

punx1325 · 08-18-2003, 01:53 PM

uhh...there is a treatment. It's called acutane, it will do a number on your liver but it WILL cure your acne.

Cedar · 08-23-2003, 06:13 PM

I had never heard anything about diet being linked to acne. My sister eats a ton of junk food and has great skin, but I watch what I eat and it took two rounds of Accutane to get my acne only mostly cleared. I still have rosacea and some breakouts that I'll probably have until I'm 80. As far as I know, acne is all about genetics. Since I was 12, I've battled bad breakouts. I went through all kinds of cleansers, antibiotics, and treatments before my try at Accutane, which surprisingly didn't have any side effects for me except for the occasional nosebleed. Philosophy's "On a Clear Day" is a pretty nice wash that I've found. Doesn't smell great, but the sulfur is good for acne.

Zello · 08-26-2003, 01:41 PM

I took Accutane. If I had to do it over I would have begged my dermatologist for it. After a year my face was just about entirely clear. Then I got off of it and it slowly came back. It's not bad at all compared to what it was so I just deal with it.

Whoever creates an Acne vaccine will be a millionaire. It would have been awesome to not have to deal with that back in middle and highschool.

dannoxxxx · 08-26-2003, 03:42 PM

i started getting bad acne when i turned 20...pretty late, eh. It is stil with me and Im 26, though not as bad. I never went on accutane but i did take antibiotics, creams and for the past year i have been on Proactive......which has surprisingly been pretty effective. It dries my skin out quite a bit though so i have to use their moisturizer everyday.....which has sunblock......so that is a good thing.

Man, acne has definitely been the hardest thing i have had to deal with in my life though. If i hadnt had acne my life would have been much different. I am just happy that it is fading and i dont have to spend so much time fighting its effects and worrying about leaving my house.

Nimbletoe · 08-26-2003, 04:21 PM

First off, whoever said that if you eat greasy foods you will get acne is clueless. Acne has nothing to do with the kind of food you eat.

Secondly, I was on Accutane as well. And yes, there are some pretty crappy side effects, as well as having to go in every two weeks for blood tests. I had severe dry lips and I got random nosebleeds every now and then. But the shit works. Not everyone gets depressed, in fact, there is no proof saying accutane does or doesn't cause depression. All the side effects are listed in the stuff you get when you start it.

I had bad acne since I was 13, and didnt start Accutane till I was 16. If I could go back in time, I would have started it way earlier.

soloist124 · 11-04-2004, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimbletoe

First off, whoever said that if you eat greasy foods you will get acne is clueless. Acne has nothing to do with the kind of food you eat.

Secondly, I was on Accutane as well. And yes, there are some pretty crappy side effects, as well as having to go in every two weeks for blood tests. I had severe dry lips and I got random nosebleeds every now and then. But the shit works. Not everyone gets depressed, in fact, there is no proof saying accutane does or doesn't cause depression. All the side effects are listed in the stuff you get when you start it.

I had bad acne since I was 13, and didnt start Accutane till I was 16. If I could go back in time, I would have started it way earlier.

seems like you know your stuff, thanx for the info!

Gustoferson · 11-07-2004, 08:36 PM

I was on accutane for a while and it was working well, but I never finished my dosage. It led to massively dry lips, which doesn't sound too bad, but it was. I would wake up every morning with lips so cracked at the corners you could easily see the red of blood underneath them. No matter how much chapstick or whatnot, it stayed the same. Made it painful to move my mouth at all. I never had any other side effects, but the dry lips just made it too much for me to keep taking the remainder of my prescription. Its still in a drawer somewhere today.

It still did a ton to clear up my acne, though since I never finished it, it never hit its full potential. I still have regular acne, some bad ones, but not like it was before. I do have a little bit of scarring if you look closely on my skin from it. But to be honest, I don't even notice it half the time any more. Its just a natural part of my face if any show up, because after years (many of which when it was much much worse), I just kind of tune it out.

All in all, after the other stuff was exhaused (Retin A worked alright, but just wasn't doing enough in the long run), I'd say recommend for people to take accutane and see what it does for you. I know my reaction was on the extreme end so people should just pay attention to what it does for them in specific.

Oh yeah, and take the whole prescription, it'd be worth it if I had just toughed it out and finished it up and not still be dealing with it (though in a somewhat reduced form) now years later.

skier · 11-07-2004, 09:30 PM

I took accutane for a month. My skin became drier, more sensitive. I had chapped lips. I decided in the end my acne was not serious enough to warrant the use of the accutane. Now i'm taking evening primose oil (in caplets) along with washing my face at night and that has cleared me up nicely. (Also i think i'm growing out of it)

As has been pointed out in the previous posts, you can't vaccinate something that your body does naturally. All you can do is treat the symptoms.

f6twister · 11-08-2004, 07:37 PM

I was one of the first 100 people in the US to be on Accutane....it was still experiamental at the time. I got acne at 13 and started the Accutane at 15. Not only did I have severe mood swings, but I also found that my vision decreased, I couldn't play sports because the medication affects muscles strangely. I became very sensative to the sun, my lips got really dry and it dried out my hair folicles to the point where I could grab an entire handful of hair and yank it out with no pain. That is just the abbriviated list. The side effects were just not worth the results. Yeah, it cleared up most of the problem....at the time. Now I am 29 and still having the same problems. I have been on nearly every prescribable medication with no end in sight.

I would be so happy to see a "cure" but it just isn't medically possible.

Nicky399 · 01-30-2008, 04:34 AM

Forty years ago in 1967 I was suffering in my third year of severe acne. After treatments with Tetracyclin and topical medications failed, I found a dermatologist who cleared my acne in less than eight weeks with a short series of bacteria vaccine injections. My acne was cured forever.

The same doctor treated two of my friends with this same vaccine and with the same permanent results. One friend had severe acne and boils, that covered his arms, legs and back as well.

None of us ever had another breakout after less than two months of treatment. No side effects.

I never knew what the vaccine was, but no dermatologist today has any idea what it was either. It was not a steroid or vitamin A.

I did find that doctors were successfully treating acne with a vaccine as early as 1912.

There are bacterial vaccines today that I believe will have the same positive results if only someone will try them.

If you are suffering from acne, ask your doctor to treat you with a bacteria vaccine. Please post your results.

08-05-2003, 11:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
mattgical Upright	Vaccine for Acne? Dont u think they can develop one? Just doing random thoughts at work and i was wondering, dont you think they can come up with a vaccine for Acne, sorta like for measles and chicken pox. You know, u can get the shot at age 8 or something and not have to live with the pain and emotional distress that comes with acne. but then i though, that would never happen, cuz then all the cosmetics companies and pharmaceuticals would lose billions! am i alone in this?

08-05-2003, 01:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
cliche Rookie Location: Oxford, UK	Problem with acne is it's more an overgrowth of normal skin bacteria rather than an infection (hence you can't 'catch' it off people). Though, seeing as some bacteria are more likely to cause problems than others it may be possible... And, as butthead says, there are plenty of really pretty good treatments for acne available from your doctor. __________________ I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones. -- John Cage (1912 - 1992)

08-08-2003, 11:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
mattgical Upright	re i wonder why some people have perfect skin in their teen years then. too bad u cant take their DNA and share it with everyone else.

08-14-2003, 09:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
lafemmefatale Insane Location: Vancouver	interesitng thing, my parents never had acne as teens and i did...not an aggravating amount...and i still get it now and then depending on what i eat. The diff is they use to live in China, while i moved before my teenage years. Therefore, it is most likely something to do with the western diet? So any prevention measures would be to not eat all the foods you love or be prepared to spend a small fourtune on acne products __________________ -poor is the man whose pleasure depends on the permission of another-

08-18-2003, 01:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
punx1325 Junkie Location: San Diego	uhh...there is a treatment. It's called acutane, it will do a number on your liver but it WILL cure your acne. __________________ If something seems too good to be true, then it probably is....

08-05-2003, 12:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
butthead Loser Location: SF Bay Area, CA	Acne can be treated once you have it, provided you don't have an asshole doctor who says "if I had a dime for every kid wanting treatment..."

08-07-2003, 03:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
cetacean Insane Location: New York, NY	I keep hearing accutane works very well, but also makes you depressed. How ironic. Just like propecia, it gives you hair, but you lose your sexual apetite...

08-07-2003, 07:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
CrazyIntent Tilted	Accutane is a kind of a last-resort acne medication for those with severe acne. Most dermatologists will prescribe retin-a or antibiotics to begin with.

08-08-2003, 12:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
MacGnG Know Where!	there are medicines to control acne but to creat something to prevent it would be chnaging how your skin works acne is just your bodies response to dirt and oils. it's trying to fight icky stuff, but thats just how it works it would b great but acne soap is what i've been using and it's been working pretty well.

08-08-2003, 03:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
wario Insane	Acne will never be cured. It's all part of making the "awkward teen years" that much more awkward.

08-08-2003, 01:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
BadForm Crazy Location: In an office with no windows	Just to reiterate - Accutane has severe side effects. There have long been questions surrounding any emotional side effects. I knew a kid in high-school who had to be taken off of it because his body lost the ability to process some fatty acid, and it the levels got so high in his blood that they thought he might suffer from liver failure. Couldn't eat any fat for week or so until he was safe.

08-09-2003, 03:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
blackdas Crazy	Acne can't be cured...maybe in older people, but teens will always have it once they start making mass amounts of hormones.

08-09-2003, 07:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
degarg Tilted	Lots of acne is different.. I only get acne from cheese and dairy products due to an allergy. So they can't really get a vaccine or something like that for all acne IMO atleast.

08-09-2003, 08:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
phukraut Addict	try Retisol A 0.05%. it works pretty good. and acutane has another side effect: extreme dryness of skin. on the one hand, your hair doesn't get as oily, which is good. but on the other hand, your skin flakes, and you are more prone to things like nosebleeds.

08-14-2003, 05:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
limited Crazy Location: upstate, NY	I was on Accutane, so I know a good amount about it. Blood tests are given before you even start and while you are on it to insure that your liver (enzymes) function properly. Like another poster mentioned, depression is a side effect. That didn't occur with me, although while I was on it I remember a story about a kid on Accutane comitting suicide. He had been taking it for a year and in a larger dosage than I. My total treatment time lasted 6 months and cleared up my acne incredibly. If anyone has a questions on the power of accutance, i'll post a before and after if i can find one. Accutane was prescribed as a last resort, I was on Benzemyacin topical gel, erythromyacin antibiotic pills for a few months, then Retin-A cream before making the decision for Accutane. Edit: Anyone on Accutane will have pretty dry lips. I definitely lived on chapstick.

08-14-2003, 11:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
limited Crazy Location: upstate, NY	Diet definitely plays a role in acne, eat greasier foods live with the effects. Ever see the kids in McD's or BK's that are covered with zits? Its all the oil from the deep fryer that just hangs out in the air. I'm not an expert on chinese cuisine, but I'll take a guess that its not fried anywhere as much as in the good Ol' USA. Hell we even fry our veggies. Godbless the bloomin' onion.

08-15-2003, 11:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	Read the labels on acne medications....msot are salicylic acid, 2%. Well, salicylic acid is used in acne treatments and dandruff treatments in low dosage (2% average). Well salicylic acid is used in wart removals, at around 20%. So if you have a huge pimple that you want to get rid of, try using some wart removal to get that sucker out. I have yet to try my theory but it should work, not as prevention, but to get rid of pre-existing ones.

08-23-2003, 06:13 PM	#18 (permalink)
Cedar Crazy Location: Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry	I had never heard anything about diet being linked to acne. My sister eats a ton of junk food and has great skin, but I watch what I eat and it took two rounds of Accutane to get my acne only mostly cleared. I still have rosacea and some breakouts that I'll probably have until I'm 80. As far as I know, acne is all about genetics. Since I was 12, I've battled bad breakouts. I went through all kinds of cleansers, antibiotics, and treatments before my try at Accutane, which surprisingly didn't have any side effects for me except for the occasional nosebleed. Philosophy's "On a Clear Day" is a pretty nice wash that I've found. Doesn't smell great, but the sulfur is good for acne. __________________ Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large. I contain multitudes. -Walt Whitman, Song of Myself

08-26-2003, 01:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
Zello Crazy Location: Vincennes, IN	I took Accutane. If I had to do it over I would have begged my dermatologist for it. After a year my face was just about entirely clear. Then I got off of it and it slowly came back. It's not bad at all compared to what it was so I just deal with it. Whoever creates an Acne vaccine will be a millionaire. It would have been awesome to not have to deal with that back in middle and highschool. __________________ Sorry, you can not add yourself to your own list.

08-26-2003, 03:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
dannoxxxx Insane Location: Toronto	i started getting bad acne when i turned 20...pretty late, eh. It is stil with me and Im 26, though not as bad. I never went on accutane but i did take antibiotics, creams and for the past year i have been on Proactive......which has surprisingly been pretty effective. It dries my skin out quite a bit though so i have to use their moisturizer everyday.....which has sunblock......so that is a good thing. Man, acne has definitely been the hardest thing i have had to deal with in my life though. If i hadnt had acne my life would have been much different. I am just happy that it is fading and i dont have to spend so much time fighting its effects and worrying about leaving my house.

08-26-2003, 04:21 PM	#21 (permalink)
Nimbletoe Junkie Location: Michigan	First off, whoever said that if you eat greasy foods you will get acne is clueless. Acne has nothing to do with the kind of food you eat. Secondly, I was on Accutane as well. And yes, there are some pretty crappy side effects, as well as having to go in every two weeks for blood tests. I had severe dry lips and I got random nosebleeds every now and then. But the shit works. Not everyone gets depressed, in fact, there is no proof saying accutane does or doesn't cause depression. All the side effects are listed in the stuff you get when you start it. I had bad acne since I was 13, and didnt start Accutane till I was 16. If I could go back in time, I would have started it way earlier.

11-07-2004, 08:36 PM	#23 (permalink)
Gustoferson Crazy Location: Chapel Hill, NC	I was on accutane for a while and it was working well, but I never finished my dosage. It led to massively dry lips, which doesn't sound too bad, but it was. I would wake up every morning with lips so cracked at the corners you could easily see the red of blood underneath them. No matter how much chapstick or whatnot, it stayed the same. Made it painful to move my mouth at all. I never had any other side effects, but the dry lips just made it too much for me to keep taking the remainder of my prescription. Its still in a drawer somewhere today. It still did a ton to clear up my acne, though since I never finished it, it never hit its full potential. I still have regular acne, some bad ones, but not like it was before. I do have a little bit of scarring if you look closely on my skin from it. But to be honest, I don't even notice it half the time any more. Its just a natural part of my face if any show up, because after years (many of which when it was much much worse), I just kind of tune it out. All in all, after the other stuff was exhaused (Retin A worked alright, but just wasn't doing enough in the long run), I'd say recommend for people to take accutane and see what it does for you. I know my reaction was on the extreme end so people should just pay attention to what it does for them in specific. Oh yeah, and take the whole prescription, it'd be worth it if I had just toughed it out and finished it up and not still be dealing with it (though in a somewhat reduced form) now years later. __________________ ...And then I found $5!

11-07-2004, 09:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
skier Rawr! Location: Edmontania	I took accutane for a month. My skin became drier, more sensitive. I had chapped lips. I decided in the end my acne was not serious enough to warrant the use of the accutane. Now i'm taking evening primose oil (in caplets) along with washing my face at night and that has cleared me up nicely. (Also i think i'm growing out of it) As has been pointed out in the previous posts, you can't vaccinate something that your body does naturally. All you can do is treat the symptoms. __________________ "Asking a bomb squad if an old bomb is still "real" is not the best thing to do if you want to save it." - denim

11-08-2004, 07:37 PM	#25 (permalink)
f6twister Addict	I was one of the first 100 people in the US to be on Accutane....it was still experiamental at the time. I got acne at 13 and started the Accutane at 15. Not only did I have severe mood swings, but I also found that my vision decreased, I couldn't play sports because the medication affects muscles strangely. I became very sensative to the sun, my lips got really dry and it dried out my hair folicles to the point where I could grab an entire handful of hair and yank it out with no pain. That is just the abbriviated list. The side effects were just not worth the results. Yeah, it cleared up most of the problem....at the time. Now I am 29 and still having the same problems. I have been on nearly every prescribable medication with no end in sight. I would be so happy to see a "cure" but it just isn't medically possible. __________________ A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day. Calvin

01-30-2008, 04:34 AM	#26 (permalink)
Nicky399 Upright	AcneVaccine Forty years ago in 1967 I was suffering in my third year of severe acne. After treatments with Tetracyclin and topical medications failed, I found a dermatologist who cleared my acne in less than eight weeks with a short series of bacteria vaccine injections. My acne was cured forever. The same doctor treated two of my friends with this same vaccine and with the same permanent results. One friend had severe acne and boils, that covered his arms, legs and back as well. None of us ever had another breakout after less than two months of treatment. No side effects. I never knew what the vaccine was, but no dermatologist today has any idea what it was either. It was not a steroid or vitamin A. I did find that doctors were successfully treating acne with a vaccine as early as 1912. There are bacterial vaccines today that I believe will have the same positive results if only someone will try them. If you are suffering from acne, ask your doctor to treat you with a bacteria vaccine. Please post your results.