So Bear Cub got fat again and is trying to fix it.

He downloaded a few parts of P90X including the cardio, ab ripper, and plyometrics.

One 45 minute cardio routine later, he nearly vomited on his living room floor.

This shit's hard.

No pain, no gain, man...

Remember not to drink milk before your workout though. That shit's gnarly to puke up!

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I keep thinking of that every darn time I see this thread.

K so, I think i'm fairly convinced to the point that I should give this thing a try.

I think, for me, the hardest part is going to be the diet.
I'm a glutton for physical ass whopping unto myself, I tossed myself in to a gym on the 1st day about a month ago and went at everything for like 2 hours, felt great, went to bed, next day I woke up and couldn't hardly move, I had DOMS and my muscles were in so much pain, I couldn't even extend my arms, I walked around like a t-rex for 3 days, lol.

I've been working out for a month now, go to the gym every single day now, but I'm still a "fatass" imo.

Thinking about grabbing the bands (cuz no fucking way does a 300 lbs 6'6" individual do pullups)/weights/supplements and transforming my bedroom in to a slightly more wide open area to give myself room to punish myself with this thing.

Would like to talk more directly to those of you who've done it and stuck through it, and what you feel your results were.

The thing to remember about the workout portions of P90x is to listen to what Tony says. Don't just watch the dvd and try to follow it like what you are seeing them do. You need to set your own pace..even if you feel it's pathetic. Take plenty of breaks and drink plenty of fluids. If you attempt to start out at the pace they go, you'll kill yourself. It's a natural progression..

and don't underestimate the bands.. after you do a certain amount of reps they become just as difficult as pullups.

I have just survived the first 90 day round of the p90x workout. I missed only one daily workout (a yoga routine around week 10). Admittedly, I did not follow the p90x diet plan as I felt "dieting" and restricting treats, alcohol, hot dogs and hamburgers during the summer was simply not feasible. I went for the lean look (12-15 reps with lighter weights for the resistance exercises) as opposed to the bulky look (8-10 reps with higher weights). At 46 years of age I wanted to ease into this.
I had been running religiously for about 10 years averaging about 25-30 miles a week. I was in very good cardiovascular condition but still a little pudgy around the midsection. Never having done any resistance training, I had zero muscle definition.
My results were very good, not great. I lost about 8 pounds, have some muscle definition and am able to keep up with the workouts where I was struggling during the first few weeks. I have a 2-pack as the other 4 cans are still covered by a much reduced layer of fat. I never really expected to look like the after pictures on the informercial, and no one would ever confuse my after pictures with any of those. After all, it took me many years to create this mess; no way was it going to be eligible for the p90x brochure after 90 days. Still, I was very happy with the results and all of the HARD WORK (EXTREMELY HARD WORK) was very well worth it to me.
I am now enduring round 2 of p90x. My goal this round is to eat better (now that summer is ending, it will be much easier) so I can get rid of the remainder of my midsection and to use heavier weights with less reps in an attempt to add more muscle.
hope this rant helps somebody.

I'm really considering going for it very soon but I think I am going to have a lot of trouble with the upper body strength stuff. My arms/chest/back are just plain week so pullups and large numbers of pushups will be a challenge. I am really looking to make a significant change in my fitness now though, so if I am going to take the plunge, I might as well do it head on. I guess if I start it I'll have to alter some things before I can actually match up with the videos.

Has anyone done it with bands? I'm not sure if the door where I'll be living can accommodate a bar. How do the bands 'attach' to the ceiling/doorframe for pulldowns?

I used to work out excessively. It ruined my body. Can't run without dislocating my left knee. Hips click with every step. Now I just walk and practice Kin Shi Hai Do.

Crompsin hooked me up with the hundred push ups training program, which is free. I started being able to do 17 pushups before failure. I'm two weeks into the program, just made it to Test 2, and I'm at 29 pushups. Four weeks to go to 100! I think I'll try the 200 Situps version as well.

Are those standard pushups on your hands?

I have horrible wrists and can't do very many on my hands, I use pushup bars (which are freakishly hard compared to hands) or make fists and do it on them.

As it stands I can only do like 30 or so with the bars... I wonder what I could do with my hands.

I can do ~66 nonstop (~80 in 2 minutes) with a medium stance on my palms. I lose a ton when I go up on my fists and have to stabilize myself. I get more pushups with a wider stance (pecs), less with a closer stance (triceps). This is how I've trained for years, though... largely ignoring my arms somehow.

And seeing that your arms make mine look like a strip of beef jerky, you might be able to get more out of doing close hand pushups by turning your hands out slightly and rocketing off your triceps. A lot of army guys with big arms bounce on their triceps during PT tests and knock out like 85 in under 2 minutes.

My wrists are pretty bad too. It's more or less my forearms that are my body's weakest link. (e.g. I've gone from dumbbell bench pressing 25-pounders to 50-pounders, but it's my forearms that are giving out first.)

I've improved the strength in my grip and in my forearms generally with these:
Dumbbell Wrist Curl
Dumbbell Reverse Wrist Curl
Dumbbell Seated Pronation
Dumbbell Seated Supination

I like to supplement my routine with these exercises at least once a week. Give them a try.

the thing I like most about the p90x pushup program is that you don't have to bust out a certain number to start with.. you just do what you can.. you start with normal pushups, then military pushups, then diamond, then declines and then the divebomber pushups.

the bands are fine for pullups especially if you're a beginner. just remember to get your angles right and you'll find that they will increase your strength enough for you to be able to do pullups/chinups.

like I said before, even if you aren't using p90x, don't worry about the numbers. just do what you can and use quality over quantity. being able to do 40 quality structured pushups vs 100 poorly done pushups makes a huge difference.. so make sure you do them and the other exercises right..

I have polymetrics tonight. yay. it's the most brutal routine of the whole regimen.

This thread picked up a lot and then kinda fizzled out... I started the routine about a month and a half ago and have lost around 17 pounds, seeing a little more muscle definition, but definitely not ready for the infomercial. So did everyone burn out on it or are you just waiting for 90 days to get done so you can brag?

im in pretty good shape and tried it for the first time not to long ago, i hit it hard and ended up trying to puke at the end....

I'm planning on beginning the program next week. I have to say, though, the lack of follow-up posts from users leaves me a little worried...

I have confidence I'll be able to see it through. I just finished my marathons and am looking forward to a new challenge and getting a hot bod for the summertime. Without a gym membership, I'm going to have to find a way to replace the chin-ups (there seems to be a lot of them) and vary my weights. The guy is hilarious for so many different reasons. He's got a lot of energy and is a bit of a goof, but not on the level of Tony Little or Billy Banks. He inspires credibility in his system; he's jacked for someone who's 45 (going on 46).

There are a variety of inexpensive doorway-mounted pullup bars available.

I've had one for months and it does the job: I doubled the amount of pullups I can do.

I completed the program last summer and had good results. The triangle like upper body and noticeably different size all around. Cut legs and a fairly cut midsection. I didn't follow the diet all that much and I certainly drank 4 out of 7 nights a week so I didn't get the
"best, most ripped, abdominal area they've had in their lives" (Tony Horton on Ab Ripper X).

I believe that the program is geared towards those who are in a fairly athletic shape. Its designed to cut off all of the excess body fat and leave you with skin and muscle. I do have friends that were overweight who did a P180x (a non stop cycle of P90x) and they have slimmed down substantially.

It takes dedication and motivation. Don't skip a day or else you'll want to skip more. Yoga was probably my favorite workout (aside from chest/shoulders/triceps) and it was great. Its a long routine but I sweat buckets when I do the yoga routine correctly.

Since last summer I've put on 10ish pounds, but my new idea for my body is - as long as my chest is bigger than my gut, I really don't care. Plus the "V" shape at the bottom of the abdominals is sexy to look at.

The program also can make you a bit of a narcissist.

I've been doing the Plyometrics and the ab work outs from P90X. I'm thinking about just doing the entire 90 day routine. I got time for it, so...why not?

First time I did Plyo, I couldn't walk for 4 days. I moved forward like a compass. My calves wouldn't function. Now it feels a bit sore, but it's not crippling in the least. I definitely see improvement. What a bitch of a work-out.

Plyo is tough. Stretch, stretch, stretch. Its the only way to counteract it. I would wake up in the mornings hardly being able to bend my legs from Plyo or the legs and back routine. Now I stand up and do 10-15 minutes of stretching before getting ready in the mornings. My calves get tight very fast so I'm constantly trying to flex them against walls throughout the day in order to stay loose. Stretching before bed is also a good idea.

I borrowed it from a friend to check it out, and it's a lot of fun. Plyometrics is fucking awesome. Same w/ Chest, Shoulders and Triceps. The nice thing is the program comes with three different exercise schedules, one is the regular, one is lighter, and one is double. Double kicked my ass and I loved every second. Remember, exercise should be fun.

BTW, if you do P90X, you don't need to follow the questionable food program to a T. Just eat mostly plants, some lean meats and nuts. And whole grains, though not as much as plants. Cheat every now any then, but try not to. You don't need weird shakes made up of god knows what, pills, or oddly restrictive diets to be healthy.

I have the p90x system, but I tired one of the routines and it kicked my little hobbit ass. I got the P90 system that is his first set of videos that I'm working on till I get in shape enough to upgrade to p90x. I recommend that to people that can't handle the full workout in p90x.

yeah I dont know if I can do it. I have the videos, I just can't get my head around the convoluted diet/drink system

No one has a gun to your head regarding the diet drink system, the exercises seem fine on their own. And the whole p90x website/forum/pictures thing is absurd.

Eat mostly healthy while doing p90x and you'll be fine. And don't be ashamed of doing the "lean" exercise program.

The lean program is great. I have male friends who are marathon runners who do the lean program as well as female swimmers. The bulking/muscle building process probably wouldn't be all that beneficial for them....although I love it

I don't understand why someone would part with good money for an over-hyped version of CrossFit?

To those familiar with both programs, what is the difference?

Torrents, my friend.

Plus I know people who don't like working out in public/being the newer and weaker person at the gym. I had that mindset once, bench pressing 100lbs while being surrounded by gym rats felt kind of embarrassing at first but as the weights went up I realized that I wasn't judgmental of people lifting less than me. In fact I silently applauded them for wanting to live a healthier lifestyle.

I just started Phase 3 (lean) and I love it. I was pretty athletic through my early 20's but in the 10 years since I gained weight and got totally out of shape. It kicked my ass at first but I stuck with it.

I'm not doing the diet plan but I have modified what I eat to be healthier. I haven't lost much weight but I look so much better already.

I'm starting this tomorrow. I got it from a friend. I have access to a buddy's dumbell set, but not sure what weights I need. I'm rigging up a makeshift pull up bar in my basement using 2 C clamps and a broomhandle on my I beam.

If I'm reading this thread correctly, is there 3 different programs to the dvd's? Lean, regular and muscle building? How do I know which one I should do?

I'm 6'3 197lbs. My ideal weight would be roughly 180. I'm fairly fit, but I want to focus mainly on loosing the little bit of pudgyness in my gut, and the moobs.

If you got it from a friend, ask for the booklets or reading material stuff. There should be an overview, fitness and diet guide. They give you options on what program works best for you. The 3 programs are: Classic, Doubles and Lean. Differences are in the recover week (week 4) and in phase 2. Doubles requires that you do the Cardio X video in the AM followed by the regular workout in the PM.

Real men do the doubles. i've been doing it for a few weeks and it's utterly destroying me physically. It's so freaking airwolf.

BTW, you don't have to follow the diet that comes with the program, but do eat healthy in order to make the exercising as efficient as possible. Try to avoid sugar and processed foods, and eat until you're full.

:lol: Gnarly.

I got it from a friend who got it from a friend that bootlegged it. No manuals or reading materials just the discs.

If I'm primarily using this to burn as much fat as possible, what time of day would you guys recommend? In the morning before breakfast? In between meals?

I did Shoulders and Arms this morning at about 6 a.m. and Ab Ripper X at about 6 p.m. Tomorrow is Yoga X, so I'll probably do it in the morning.

You may need to experiment. Try it in the morning a few times, then the afternoon. Whatever works better, go with. I personally do best right when I wake up or right before dinner, but that's not for everyone.

Started day 1 today...wife wanted me to wait for her to do it so we started today. Did chest/back and ab ripper x. By the time I got to ab ripper I was utterly spent, I could only do 8 minutes of it before I just collapsed. This workout is freaking awesome!

If you're able to hang through the whole set with the video, that's a sign you're in good shape. Still, if you have to take a breather, that's okay. By the end of week 4, I was barely sweating by the end. Then week 5 starts and you're right back at square one.

I used to be extremely fit. Plyometrics, boxing, weightlifting, calisthenics, jogging.. After getting out of the military, I started chain smoking and had quit caring about myself altogether. Now, just to maintain mass, I used steroids and an advanced form of Tai Chi called Kin Shi Hai Do. Am I ashamed? Sometimes. I definitely won't live a long and full life, but we can't have it all, right?

Finished week one today, I absolutely love/hate this workout. It kicks my ass but in a good way. One very important lesson I learned today was NEVER do this hung over.

hello all, I'm new here, but just had to jump in on this thread.. First let me say that I am an Independent Beachbody Coach (I sell beachbody product). that being said I have had great results using P90x and Shakeology ( the meal replacement shake) I can answer any questions that you have about the program. Also i wanted to tell everyone that has borrowed the program and did not get the workout schedule that the beachbody online website has a workout tracker. You can enter which ever program (doubles, classic o r lean) you want to do and the start date and it will plan all 90 days for you. let me know if you need the link I'm new so i cant include it there is a free & a paid option.

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