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miko 03-13-2008 08:05 PM

Speaking of Working Out - P90X?
 
Anyone here do/doing this?
I just started and O...M...G...!

And I thought I was fairly fit. I workout, run, cycle, rollerblade... but this thing is KICKING MY ASS!!! :eek:
It works though. I mean, it's gotta the way I feel after doing. During doing it. Heck I'm scared to start doing it some days. lol
I've seen real results from others that have used it too. From what I've seen its better at cutting than at bulking. And I think that's what the average person needs anyway. Gain overall strength/stamina and lose lotsa fat.
You get a diet plan too, which actually is not bad.
We'll see.

Take a look...
http://www.beachbody.com/product/p90...de=GOOGLE_P90X

Fotzlid 03-14-2008 07:43 AM

I've been trying to find more info about this program. The only thing I can find on the net is glowing, positive reviews. That alone makes me suspicious.

LoganSnake 03-14-2008 07:48 AM

You could always try it for free and see if it works for you...

miko 03-15-2008 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fotzlid
I've been trying to find more info about this program. The only thing I can find on the net is glowing, positive reviews. That alone makes me suspicious.

That's funny cause all the positive reviews is what made me decide to get it.
But some of those reviews were from www.johnstonefitness.com forums which I usually trust very much. Most of the people there are pretty serious about their workouts.

Fotzlid 03-15-2008 09:00 AM

I generally read the negative reviews before buying something. Nothing is perfect so i want to know the downsides before putting up my cash.
Nothing but positive reviews makes me think that the marketing department has gone overboard in an attempt to grab as much cash as possible till word gets out the product is no good.

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

Ilow 03-22-2008 12:46 PM

Well along with the fact that there are few negative reviews, there is definitely the essence of "too-good-to-be-true." Three months is a short period of time for any program to work. I would like to see the breakdowns of which workouts are done each day/week. I am also not overly keen on the idea of working two large muscle groups (i.e. chest/back, legs/back) the same workout. I guess I would like more info, but am scared off by the over the top Billy Mays style hype.

Willravel 03-22-2008 12:49 PM

If anyone is on a workout routine that's not kicking their ass, they're not doing it right.

Be sure you're eating well and getting plenty of rest and enjoy it.

Martian 03-22-2008 01:28 PM

Umm.. yeah. Whenever somebody claims they can make me look like this:

http://www.beachbody.com/images/en_U...0x/p90x_03.jpg

in 90 days, my reaction is twofold.

1) They're full of shit. With a life centred completely around strict diet and intense exercise I might be able to achieve that, but even then I doubt I have the genetic predisposition necessary.

2) Even if they're not full of shit and they can make me look like that, why the hell would I want to?

Other than that, what willravel says. If it works for you good on ya I guess, but I'll stick with what I'm doing thanks.

Willravel 03-22-2008 01:58 PM

If you're just getting back into shape, 90 days is the first phase out of 4. In the first phase you will probably burn the most fat (if you know what the hell you're doing). You won't see someone looking like the guy in Martian's post until phase 4: the last 10 pounds. This is, of course, the most difficult phase.

blahblah454 04-17-2009 05:09 PM

Sorry to resurrect an old thread here, but I just started this last week. I just finished day 8 and I love it! Its all I think about work, coming home to work out.

My aunt bought the p90x program and she is big into fads, she tried the requirements and could not do it and so she gave it to me (as I already worked out plenty). I do not have the diet book, but I already eat a pretty good diet, lots of protein, low saturated fats and I eat about 5-6 times a day.

My roomie says she can see huge results already, I took the before pictures and I plan on taking them again after day 30. I suppose I will post them someday if you guys want to see if it actually works.

Week 1 I gave it about 90%, but today I gave it 110% and I absolutely loved it, I have not worked this hard in a long time!

Mirth 04-17-2009 07:53 PM

I used to do it when school wasn't kicking my ass 2 months ago. I could barely make it through some of the daily videos during the first 1 week, then I did the beginner's video for a week, and went back to the normal stuff. Then I could finish the videos. I did it for about 2 or 3 weeks, and I think it helped a bit. But I just don't have the hour to hour+1/2 to spend on working out everyday until this semester is over. I'll try it again in May, it's a fun workout program.

Glory's Sun 04-18-2009 04:39 AM

I have it but never used it..

if anyone is finding it too difficult they should try the P90 system or the beach body system.. if P90x isn't enough.. then go for P90x+ I'm sure that has plenty of ass kicking.

These things are meant to create money.. but Tony Horton is a smart guy and knows his stuff so don't discount him just because it's a "fad" routine. If you follow his diet plan and workout plan you will see some results and some results are better than no results because you're too lazy to workout at all or don't want to do it because it's a "fad"

ASU2003 04-18-2009 08:19 AM

If I had more time I would do this whole program (diet and exercise perfectly). I have been doing some P90X exercise routines this past winter, and I am starting out this spring a lot healthier and about where I was last fall in terms of fitness levels. It's a lot better than in previous years.

I think 50% of it is actually doing any exercise/weight training, and 30% is eating the right foods to keep fat from building up and to give you enough energy to exercise, and 20% is how hard you exercise and doing the correct exercises.

And I've watched that Biggest Loser TV show a few times, and if they can lose that much weight in 90 days (12 weeks?), I'm sure I could lose 5 pounds of fat and gain a few pounds of muscle.
Now, to look like the guy in the picture, I would probably need to stop drinking water for a day, but if you continue to exercise and eat the right foods, it is definitely possible.

Slims 04-18-2009 10:05 AM

Several of my fitness-fanatic friends have started doing P90X and have only good things to say about it.

I couldn't bring myself to work out to what appears to be an infomercial, but they are getting real results, and the program (despite how it is marketed) is very, very good. Even for people who are in excellent shape already.

settie 04-18-2009 03:30 PM

I finally got my hands on it this winter. I haven't started it, I'm not ready yet. I know that might sound like bullshit, but after the bad injuries I've had, I have to be careful. I'll start slow, get out of my polar bear student slump, and back into working out every day. Once I feel strong enough to start p90, I'll be on a roll. :)

I'll post again about it maybe two weeks into the program. I expect it to kick my ass. And I used to train as an athlete. heh.

Weezil 05-06-2009 06:17 PM

I have it, and started it, but probably got 30-45 days through it the first two times I tried it. I had done about 2/3 of two rounds of Power 90 from the same company prior.

It is very serious and not easy, especially when you transition between phases. However, it's the first time I've had a real, structured plan, that I could actually feel making progress with me. I got nowhere going to the gym, but this system really laid it all out there.

I'll put it to you this way; how many infomercial products stay around more than 6 months to a year? P90X has been consistently marketed since 2005-2006 and doesn't show signs of going away. And actually, it's more than just everyday people using it; lots of celebrities and athletes have become P90Xers, too.

I have no intention of ever going back to a gym and am trying to convince more and more people that they can work out just as well if not better at home with a system like this.

blahblah454 05-17-2009 07:08 PM

Well thought I would comment on my progress. I have not been following it by the book as I am not always at home, sometimes I go back to Calgary and don't work out when I am there for the weekend. But so far great results. I am starting "week 5" tomorrow.

I have kept the same body weight, added 1/2 inch to each of my biceps, almost 1/2 inch to my forearms and about an inch to my chest. Added 40 lbs to my bench press as well.

As of last week I have been jogging 1 mile every now and then as well, and yesterday I went on a 11km walk with some dogs in my hiking boots to make sure they were broken in all nice still (been a few years since I have worn them). My plan is to get a respectable 1 mile run time (unfortunately I have no idea what this is), and eventually be able to jog 6+ miles to help build my endurance for hiking/biking season.

Shauk 05-18-2009 01:03 AM

http://s3.amazonaws.com/bk_store/ima...photo-feed.jpg

one of my friends, she swears by it.

dlish 05-18-2009 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blahblah454 (Post 2637080)
Well thought I would comment on my progress. I have not been following it by the book as I am not always at home, sometimes I go back to Calgary and don't work out when I am there for the weekend. But so far great results. I am starting "week 5" tomorrow.

I have kept the same body weight, added 1/2 inch to each of my biceps, almost 1/2 inch to my forearms and about an inch to my chest. Added 40 lbs to my bench press as well.

As of last week I have been jogging 1 mile every now and then as well, and yesterday I went on a 11km walk with some dogs in my hiking boots to make sure they were broken in all nice still (been a few years since I have worn them). My plan is to get a respectable 1 mile run time (unfortunately I have no idea what this is), and eventually be able to jog 6+ miles to help build my endurance for hiking/biking season.

blah..you're always welcome to swing past and visit. ill prganise a trek for ya!

Redjake 05-22-2009 07:36 AM

P90X - Extreme Home Fitness with Tony Horton DVD Boxset (13 DVDs)

P90X for $59.99

Won't last long!

Glory's Sun 05-22-2009 08:16 AM

if you're really hardcore go for the P90x+ routine. it makes P90x feel like jr. high phys ed.

blahblah454 05-22-2009 04:46 PM

I plan on getting the p90x+ after I am done with the regular p90x. This is the greatest workout I have ever done!

I did the Bicep/Back dvd yesterday and my biceps are in so much pain today (in a good way), never before have I ever worked them so hard. I am highly addicted!

ItWasMe 05-22-2009 10:04 PM

Ok I have a question about this program for those who have it.

Lately I have been sticking with my bike and treadmill. I have done aerobics to tv shows before, and I always have a hard time figuring out what to do. "Ok everybody do this..." By the time I've figured out what we're doing now, how to get my legs into that position (and WHY), and done it for 10 seconds, they've moved on to the next step. By the time I've figured out that step, tried it, and moved the furniture so that I don't whack my ankle again, they've gone through two more sets. And so on, and so on. They fly through the moves so quickly I have a hard time catching on to what I am supposed to be doing. If it was one cd, I could memorize it eventually.

I saw the ad and commercial for the program the OP mentioned. Several times they mentioned the variety causes muscle confusion, thus preventing a plateau. But do they change things so often that you find it difficult to mentally keep up with what they are doing?

Glory's Sun 05-23-2009 03:52 AM

ItWasMe,

this program is broken up in to several levels, including music only, direction only, etc etc,

however, while they do change often, they give you the time on the bottom which allows you to pause, rewind, fast forward etc as needed. Plus, when you first start P90x, trust me, you won't be going the full minute for each discipline (sometimes the sets are longer). So to begin with you should be able to keep up as far as changes rather easily. The only one that is a bit difficult is the Yoga, especially if you aren't familiar with yoga. It's hard to do the pose/stretch correctly when you can't see the screen :lol:

to begin with it could be a bit overwhelming but like I said before you won't be doing the exercise long enough to be worried about keeping up. They'll be doing 30/40/50 pullups/pushups and to begin with you'll (universal you) be doing 5/10/20 or less. It's all about pacing yourself and Tony is very clear to go at your pace and not try to keep up with them.

LordEden 05-23-2009 02:28 PM

Could I use this system along with running? I just bought a gym membership and I still want to run everyday, but I don't want to overload my body. I have a broken down exercise list for muscle systems to work and how many reps, but I'm always looking for something new. I just don't want to waste my gym membership.

I'm just started running today, so I need a bit to break my body back into shape.

ASU2003 05-26-2009 03:26 PM

You probably don't need the videos when you are at the gym, but the pace, exercises, and muscles worked would apply to a gym setting. If you have a professional training plan, then you don't need it, and it is more important to do something rather than nothing. But, it might take you longer if you don't do the correct exercises.

Or if you travel to boring places on business and have free time, this can be done with minimal equipment.

Xerxys 05-26-2009 04:20 PM

You know what, I'm doing this !!!

**PUFFS CHEST**

Will post before pictures when I think the TFP can stomach it.

dlish 05-26-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xerxys (Post 2640809)
You know what, I'm doing this !!!

**PUFFS CHEST**

Will post before pictures when I think the TFP can stomach it.

you think 'stomach' is the right word?

iwst99 05-27-2009 03:32 PM

My friend first went on P90 and he lost a lot of weight, although he didn't gain much muscle. After that he started the P90x program and he looks great! It's a lot of work, and really, a life style change and it's well worth it if you have the time and dedication. I also know of others that have tried it and achieved great results. You can look on craig's list as there might be some local groups in your community that actually get together and do these workouts as a group.

Crack 06-01-2009 09:14 PM

anyone want to explain wtf P90X stands for?

Plan9 06-01-2009 09:27 PM

The Fabrique Nationale P90 is a 5.7x28mm submachi... oh, wait.

Glory's Sun 06-02-2009 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crack (Post 2644242)
anyone want to explain wtf P90X stands for?

Power 90(minutes) Xtreme

something like that. I'm thinking about doing it again.. I've become lazy and overworked, I need a stress reliever.

emdubillu 07-16-2009 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martian (Post 2418905)
Umm.. yeah. Whenever somebody claims they can make me look like this:

in 90 days, my reaction is twofold.

1) They're full of shit. With a life centred completely around strict diet and intense exercise I might be able to achieve that, but even then I doubt I have the genetic predisposition necessary.

2) Even if they're not full of shit and they can make me look like that, why the hell would I want to?

Other than that, what willravel says. If it works for you good on ya I guess, but I'll stick with what I'm doing thanks.

My first post here. Seems like a relatively no-hype zone. Hope so!

Agree 100%. Who really wants to look like that? Well i know a few people... In any case i have just ordered the program and will report on my progress. I have no interest in looking like someone who spends his entire life looking in the mirror or working out but i do wanna be in awesome shape and look my best.

Something no one seems to talk about is the application of this program for people who travel non stop for work. I am one of those. I travel about two weeks a month and often to places where there are few gyms accessible. I've ordered this program in hopes that it will be a hotel room friendly program that will keep me fit while i'm away. When i'm not traveling i'll stick to my master's swim team and a fully stocked gym.

Hopefully the program will be fun, keep me enaged and worth the $$$.

Can anyone comment on using the program while traveling? Any comments about it real value?

Baraka_Guru 07-16-2009 06:23 AM

Hey, emdubillu, great first post, and welcome to TFP!

Although I'm not that familiar with the program, generally in your case any weightless (bodyweight) program would be of a benefit to you and your situation. You could always customize the P90X to suit you, as it appears the program uses dumbbells.

You can travel with resistance bands much easier than dumbbells, so look into those. You can do several things with them, including rows, curls, etc. They're lightweight and easily fold into luggage.

Find a program that works and just make the changes you need to suit your lifestyle/work environment.

Glory's Sun 07-16-2009 06:56 AM

they actually recommend starting with resistance bands anyway.. so yeah I'd go that route. You can easily adapt the program to your needs. You can use the bands in lieu of a pull up bar as well. Just get a set with a door adapter and you're all set.

Halx 07-16-2009 01:17 PM

If anyone knows what I look like (a lot of you), you'd know that I have absolutely no need for weight loss. So, if I were to partake of this program, it would be purely for muscle development. I wonder if my body could even handle it. I'm fairly resilient, but I am not very strong. I can do low-impact exercises forever, but my body fades quickly when I put it under heavy stress. I assume that if I build muscle mass, I will be able to withstand longer high-impact workouts. So, back to my concern about being able to handle this system. Should I try some junior workout first or does this scale to my capabilities?

Glory's Sun 07-16-2009 02:21 PM

Halx, start with p90 and then p90x after that. The first stage of p90x is fat burning and weight loss, but I suppose you could go to the second stage, but you need to realize that it's not just a workout program, it's a full on change of eating (which you've started anyway) and lifestyle changes. So if you want, see if you can find someone with the program and browse through it and see if it's right for you.

achillesheel 07-16-2009 03:00 PM

A friend gave me p90x but i'm just not in the right shape to start it so I'm starting with my father's p90 to lose weight first.

The friend who did it was already slightly in shape and after 90 days he was RIPPED, the program really works if you stick with it

surferlove007 07-16-2009 03:28 PM

I do the Ab Ripper X! It's awesome! As for the other stuff....eh..

highthief 07-16-2009 04:14 PM

So where are all the threatened before and after pics?

Bear Cub 07-20-2009 05:49 PM

So Bear Cub got fat again and is trying to fix it.

He downloaded a few parts of P90X including the cardio, ab ripper, and plyometrics.

One 45 minute cardio routine later, he nearly vomited on his living room floor.

This shit's hard.

Punk.of.Ages 07-20-2009 06:02 PM

No pain, no gain, man...

Remember not to drink milk before your workout though. That shit's gnarly to puke up!

Zeraph 07-20-2009 06:13 PM

http://world.guns.ru/smg/fn_p90_1.jpg

I keep thinking of that every darn time I see this thread.

Shauk 08-14-2009 11:55 AM

K so, I think i'm fairly convinced to the point that I should give this thing a try.

I think, for me, the hardest part is going to be the diet.
I'm a glutton for physical ass whopping unto myself, I tossed myself in to a gym on the 1st day about a month ago and went at everything for like 2 hours, felt great, went to bed, next day I woke up and couldn't hardly move, I had DOMS and my muscles were in so much pain, I couldn't even extend my arms, I walked around like a t-rex for 3 days, lol.

I've been working out for a month now, go to the gym every single day now, but I'm still a "fatass" imo.

Thinking about grabbing the bands (cuz no fucking way does a 300 lbs 6'6" individual do pullups)/weights/supplements and transforming my bedroom in to a slightly more wide open area to give myself room to punish myself with this thing.

Would like to talk more directly to those of you who've done it and stuck through it, and what you feel your results were.

Glory's Sun 08-14-2009 12:16 PM

The thing to remember about the workout portions of P90x is to listen to what Tony says. Don't just watch the dvd and try to follow it like what you are seeing them do. You need to set your own pace..even if you feel it's pathetic. Take plenty of breaks and drink plenty of fluids. If you attempt to start out at the pace they go, you'll kill yourself. It's a natural progression..

and don't underestimate the bands.. after you do a certain amount of reps they become just as difficult as pullups.

swark 08-20-2009 09:24 AM

I have just survived the first 90 day round of the p90x workout. I missed only one daily workout (a yoga routine around week 10). Admittedly, I did not follow the p90x diet plan as I felt "dieting" and restricting treats, alcohol, hot dogs and hamburgers during the summer was simply not feasible. I went for the lean look (12-15 reps with lighter weights for the resistance exercises) as opposed to the bulky look (8-10 reps with higher weights). At 46 years of age I wanted to ease into this.
I had been running religiously for about 10 years averaging about 25-30 miles a week. I was in very good cardiovascular condition but still a little pudgy around the midsection. Never having done any resistance training, I had zero muscle definition.
My results were very good, not great. I lost about 8 pounds, have some muscle definition and am able to keep up with the workouts where I was struggling during the first few weeks. I have a 2-pack as the other 4 cans are still covered by a much reduced layer of fat. I never really expected to look like the after pictures on the informercial, and no one would ever confuse my after pictures with any of those. After all, it took me many years to create this mess; no way was it going to be eligible for the p90x brochure after 90 days. Still, I was very happy with the results and all of the HARD WORK (EXTREMELY HARD WORK) was very well worth it to me.
I am now enduring round 2 of p90x. My goal this round is to eat better (now that summer is ending, it will be much easier) so I can get rid of the remainder of my midsection and to use heavier weights with less reps in an attempt to add more muscle.
hope this rant helps somebody.

StarsAndSpit 08-24-2009 07:13 PM

I'm really considering going for it very soon but I think I am going to have a lot of trouble with the upper body strength stuff. My arms/chest/back are just plain week so pullups and large numbers of pushups will be a challenge. I am really looking to make a significant change in my fitness now though, so if I am going to take the plunge, I might as well do it head on. I guess if I start it I'll have to alter some things before I can actually match up with the videos.

Has anyone done it with bands? I'm not sure if the door where I'll be living can accommodate a bar. How do the bands 'attach' to the ceiling/doorframe for pulldowns?

jnthnlllshprd 08-24-2009 11:02 PM

I used to work out excessively. It ruined my body. Can't run without dislocating my left knee. Hips click with every step. Now I just walk and practice Kin Shi Hai Do.

Redlemon 08-25-2009 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsAndSpit (Post 2693409)
I'm really considering going for it very soon but I think I am going to have a lot of trouble with the upper body strength stuff. My arms/chest/back are just plain week so pullups and large numbers of pushups will be a challenge.

Crompsin hooked me up with the hundred push ups training program, which is free. I started being able to do 17 pushups before failure. I'm two weeks into the program, just made it to Test 2, and I'm at 29 pushups. Four weeks to go to 100! I think I'll try the 200 Situps version as well.

blahblah454 08-25-2009 08:41 PM

Are those standard pushups on your hands?

I have horrible wrists and can't do very many on my hands, I use pushup bars (which are freakishly hard compared to hands) or make fists and do it on them.

As it stands I can only do like 30 or so with the bars... I wonder what I could do with my hands.

Plan9 08-25-2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blahblah454 (Post 2693962)
Are those standard pushups on your hands?

I have horrible wrists and can't do very many on my hands, I use pushup bars (which are freakishly hard compared to hands) or make fists and do it on them.

As it stands I can only do like 30 or so with the bars... I wonder what I could do with my hands.

I can do ~66 nonstop (~80 in 2 minutes) with a medium stance on my palms. I lose a ton when I go up on my fists and have to stabilize myself. I get more pushups with a wider stance (pecs), less with a closer stance (triceps). This is how I've trained for years, though... largely ignoring my arms somehow.

And seeing that your arms make mine look like a strip of beef jerky, you might be able to get more out of doing close hand pushups by turning your hands out slightly and rocketing off your triceps. A lot of army guys with big arms bounce on their triceps during PT tests and knock out like 85 in under 2 minutes.

Baraka_Guru 08-26-2009 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blahblah454 (Post 2693962)
Are those standard pushups on your hands?

I have horrible wrists and can't do very many on my hands, I use pushup bars (which are freakishly hard compared to hands) or make fists and do it on them.

As it stands I can only do like 30 or so with the bars... I wonder what I could do with my hands.

My wrists are pretty bad too. It's more or less my forearms that are my body's weakest link. (e.g. I've gone from dumbbell bench pressing 25-pounders to 50-pounders, but it's my forearms that are giving out first.)

I've improved the strength in my grip and in my forearms generally with these:
Dumbbell Wrist Curl
Dumbbell Reverse Wrist Curl
Dumbbell Seated Pronation
Dumbbell Seated Supination

I like to supplement my routine with these exercises at least once a week. Give them a try.

Glory's Sun 08-26-2009 06:12 AM

the thing I like most about the p90x pushup program is that you don't have to bust out a certain number to start with.. you just do what you can.. you start with normal pushups, then military pushups, then diamond, then declines and then the divebomber pushups.

the bands are fine for pullups especially if you're a beginner. just remember to get your angles right and you'll find that they will increase your strength enough for you to be able to do pullups/chinups.

like I said before, even if you aren't using p90x, don't worry about the numbers. just do what you can and use quality over quantity. being able to do 40 quality structured pushups vs 100 poorly done pushups makes a huge difference.. so make sure you do them and the other exercises right..

I have polymetrics tonight. yay. it's the most brutal routine of the whole regimen.

Meier_Link 10-17-2009 11:11 AM

This thread picked up a lot and then kinda fizzled out... I started the routine about a month and a half ago and have lost around 17 pounds, seeing a little more muscle definition, but definitely not ready for the infomercial. So did everyone burn out on it or are you just waiting for 90 days to get done so you can brag?

G5_Todd 10-19-2009 12:40 PM

im in pretty good shape and tried it for the first time not to long ago, i hit it hard and ended up trying to puke at the end....

essendoubleop 03-10-2010 08:29 PM

I'm planning on beginning the program next week. I have to say, though, the lack of follow-up posts from users leaves me a little worried...

I have confidence I'll be able to see it through. I just finished my marathons and am looking forward to a new challenge and getting a hot bod for the summertime. Without a gym membership, I'm going to have to find a way to replace the chin-ups (there seems to be a lot of them) and vary my weights. The guy is hilarious for so many different reasons. He's got a lot of energy and is a bit of a goof, but not on the level of Tony Little or Billy Banks. He inspires credibility in his system; he's jacked for someone who's 45 (going on 46).

Plan9 03-10-2010 09:00 PM

There are a variety of inexpensive doorway-mounted pullup bars available.

I've had one for months and it does the job: I doubled the amount of pullups I can do.

intellijence 03-23-2010 11:24 AM

I completed the program last summer and had good results. The triangle like upper body and noticeably different size all around. Cut legs and a fairly cut midsection. I didn't follow the diet all that much and I certainly drank 4 out of 7 nights a week so I didn't get the
"best, most ripped, abdominal area they've had in their lives" (Tony Horton on Ab Ripper X).

I believe that the program is geared towards those who are in a fairly athletic shape. Its designed to cut off all of the excess body fat and leave you with skin and muscle. I do have friends that were overweight who did a P180x (a non stop cycle of P90x) and they have slimmed down substantially.

It takes dedication and motivation. Don't skip a day or else you'll want to skip more. Yoga was probably my favorite workout (aside from chest/shoulders/triceps) and it was great. Its a long routine but I sweat buckets when I do the yoga routine correctly.

Since last summer I've put on 10ish pounds, but my new idea for my body is - as long as my chest is bigger than my gut, I really don't care. Plus the "V" shape at the bottom of the abdominals is sexy to look at.

The program also can make you a bit of a narcissist.

LoganSnake 03-23-2010 11:29 AM

I've been doing the Plyometrics and the ab work outs from P90X. I'm thinking about just doing the entire 90 day routine. I got time for it, so...why not?

First time I did Plyo, I couldn't walk for 4 days. I moved forward like a compass. My calves wouldn't function. Now it feels a bit sore, but it's not crippling in the least. I definitely see improvement. What a bitch of a work-out.

intellijence 03-23-2010 11:40 AM

Plyo is tough. Stretch, stretch, stretch. Its the only way to counteract it. I would wake up in the mornings hardly being able to bend my legs from Plyo or the legs and back routine. Now I stand up and do 10-15 minutes of stretching before getting ready in the mornings. My calves get tight very fast so I'm constantly trying to flex them against walls throughout the day in order to stay loose. Stretching before bed is also a good idea.

Willravel 03-23-2010 12:15 PM

I borrowed it from a friend to check it out, and it's a lot of fun. Plyometrics is fucking awesome. Same w/ Chest, Shoulders and Triceps. The nice thing is the program comes with three different exercise schedules, one is the regular, one is lighter, and one is double. Double kicked my ass and I loved every second. Remember, exercise should be fun.

BTW, if you do P90X, you don't need to follow the questionable food program to a T. Just eat mostly plants, some lean meats and nuts. And whole grains, though not as much as plants. Cheat every now any then, but try not to. You don't need weird shakes made up of god knows what, pills, or oddly restrictive diets to be healthy.

LordEden 03-23-2010 12:21 PM

I have the p90x system, but I tired one of the routines and it kicked my little hobbit ass. I got the P90 system that is his first set of videos that I'm working on till I get in shape enough to upgrade to p90x. I recommend that to people that can't handle the full workout in p90x.

Shauk 03-23-2010 12:25 PM

yeah I dont know if I can do it. I have the videos, I just can't get my head around the convoluted diet/drink system

Willravel 03-23-2010 03:03 PM

No one has a gun to your head regarding the diet drink system, the exercises seem fine on their own. And the whole p90x website/forum/pictures thing is absurd.

Eat mostly healthy while doing p90x and you'll be fine. And don't be ashamed of doing the "lean" exercise program.

intellijence 03-23-2010 03:34 PM

The lean program is great. I have male friends who are marathon runners who do the lean program as well as female swimmers. The bulking/muscle building process probably wouldn't be all that beneficial for them....although I love it

CandleInTheDark 03-23-2010 03:47 PM

I don't understand why someone would part with good money for an over-hyped version of CrossFit?

To those familiar with both programs, what is the difference?

intellijence 03-23-2010 04:45 PM

Torrents, my friend.

Plus I know people who don't like working out in public/being the newer and weaker person at the gym. I had that mindset once, bench pressing 100lbs while being surrounded by gym rats felt kind of embarrassing at first but as the weights went up I realized that I wasn't judgmental of people lifting less than me. In fact I silently applauded them for wanting to live a healthier lifestyle.

kutulu 03-31-2010 03:32 PM

I just started Phase 3 (lean) and I love it. I was pretty athletic through my early 20's but in the 10 years since I gained weight and got totally out of shape. It kicked my ass at first but I stuck with it.

I'm not doing the diet plan but I have modified what I eat to be healthier. I haven't lost much weight but I look so much better already.

rahl 03-31-2010 05:22 PM

I'm starting this tomorrow. I got it from a friend. I have access to a buddy's dumbell set, but not sure what weights I need. I'm rigging up a makeshift pull up bar in my basement using 2 C clamps and a broomhandle on my I beam.

If I'm reading this thread correctly, is there 3 different programs to the dvd's? Lean, regular and muscle building? How do I know which one I should do?

I'm 6'3 197lbs. My ideal weight would be roughly 180. I'm fairly fit, but I want to focus mainly on loosing the little bit of pudgyness in my gut, and the moobs.

intellijence 03-31-2010 06:36 PM

If you got it from a friend, ask for the booklets or reading material stuff. There should be an overview, fitness and diet guide. They give you options on what program works best for you. The 3 programs are: Classic, Doubles and Lean. Differences are in the recover week (week 4) and in phase 2. Doubles requires that you do the Cardio X video in the AM followed by the regular workout in the PM.

Willravel 03-31-2010 06:46 PM

Real men do the doubles. i've been doing it for a few weeks and it's utterly destroying me physically. It's so freaking airwolf.

BTW, you don't have to follow the diet that comes with the program, but do eat healthy in order to make the exercising as efficient as possible. Try to avoid sugar and processed foods, and eat until you're full.

Plan9 03-31-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2773825)
It's so freaking airwolf.

:lol: Gnarly.

rahl 03-31-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by intellijence (Post 2773820)
If you got it from a friend, ask for the booklets or reading material stuff. There should be an overview, fitness and diet guide. They give you options on what program works best for you. The 3 programs are: Classic, Doubles and Lean. Differences are in the recover week (week 4) and in phase 2. Doubles requires that you do the Cardio X video in the AM followed by the regular workout in the PM.

I got it from a friend who got it from a friend that bootlegged it. No manuals or reading materials just the discs.

If I'm primarily using this to burn as much fat as possible, what time of day would you guys recommend? In the morning before breakfast? In between meals?

Willravel 03-31-2010 07:25 PM

I did Shoulders and Arms this morning at about 6 a.m. and Ab Ripper X at about 6 p.m. Tomorrow is Yoga X, so I'll probably do it in the morning.

You may need to experiment. Try it in the morning a few times, then the afternoon. Whatever works better, go with. I personally do best right when I wake up or right before dinner, but that's not for everyone.

rahl 04-05-2010 02:59 PM

Started day 1 today...wife wanted me to wait for her to do it so we started today. Did chest/back and ab ripper x. By the time I got to ab ripper I was utterly spent, I could only do 8 minutes of it before I just collapsed. This workout is freaking awesome!

Willravel 04-05-2010 06:47 PM

If you're able to hang through the whole set with the video, that's a sign you're in good shape. Still, if you have to take a breather, that's okay. By the end of week 4, I was barely sweating by the end. Then week 5 starts and you're right back at square one.

jnthnlllshprd 04-06-2010 03:03 AM

I used to be extremely fit. Plyometrics, boxing, weightlifting, calisthenics, jogging.. After getting out of the military, I started chain smoking and had quit caring about myself altogether. Now, just to maintain mass, I used steroids and an advanced form of Tai Chi called Kin Shi Hai Do. Am I ashamed? Sometimes. I definitely won't live a long and full life, but we can't have it all, right?

rahl 04-10-2010 06:03 PM

Finished week one today, I absolutely love/hate this workout. It kicks my ass but in a good way. One very important lesson I learned today was NEVER do this hung over.

SeattleWorksOut 04-20-2010 11:42 PM

hello all, I'm new here, but just had to jump in on this thread.. First let me say that I am an Independent Beachbody Coach (I sell beachbody product). that being said I have had great results using P90x and Shakeology ( the meal replacement shake) I can answer any questions that you have about the program. Also i wanted to tell everyone that has borrowed the program and did not get the workout schedule that the beachbody online website has a workout tracker. You can enter which ever program (doubles, classic o r lean) you want to do and the start date and it will plan all 90 days for you. let me know if you need the link I'm new so i cant include it there is a free & a paid option.

The_Jazz 04-21-2010 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleWorksOut (Post 2779626)
hello all, I'm new here, but just had to jump in on this thread.. First let me say that I am an Independent Beachbody Coach (I sell beachbody product). that being said I have had great results using P90x and Shakeology ( the meal replacement shake) I can answer any questions that you have about the program. Also i wanted to tell everyone that has borrowed the program and did not get the workout schedule that the beachbody online website has a workout tracker. You can enter which ever program (doubles, classic o r lean) you want to do and the start date and it will plan all 90 days for you. let me know if you need the link I'm new so i cant include it there is a free & a paid option.




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noodle 04-25-2010 09:04 AM

You boys are making me want to try this. I'm totally burnt out and bored at the gym, my paid membership has been used three times this year. I'm sick of Snap Fitness.
But, I've got a bum shoulder and weak wrists, so pushups and pull ups are out.
I'm looking at the P90 to start, so I don't kill myself, but I'm unable to locate it outside of the normal purchasing areas... I'm willing to modify my diet, which is pretty damn good anyway, I've maintained my current weight for six months without the gym, but I need to tone back up. Stupid "hi helens". And time has become a factor... my gym workouts were up to 2 hours with travel, cardio, and either abs/arms/upper body or abs/legs/back on any given day. I'd rather be at home where I have no excuses. So my question is... is the P90 worth the $100?

rahl 04-25-2010 09:55 AM

I just finished week 3, and I love it. I've lost 8 pounds and an inch off my waist. This system doesn't build big muscle, but definately burns alot of fat. I'm looking forward to the next 9 weeks!

Willravel 04-27-2010 11:28 AM

The muscle will show up slowly in the next 5 weeks. Just remember to have a post workout drink high in protein. i have 2% chocolate milk with a bit of whey protein powder and it works fine. It also tastes good, so it works well as a reward for finishing.

rahl 04-27-2010 08:03 PM

I hate chocolate protein drinks. I can only stomach strawberry. I've modified my diet to eat 5 300 calorie meals per day. I do cheat on the weekends a bit, alcohol and pizza mostly. Also regarding yoga x, I hate it and don't do it. I substitute either cardio x or plyometrics. My goal is to get down to around 175 and have a relatively defined chest, shoulders and arms. I don't have the diet to have a six pack, but a reasonably flat stomach will suffice.

Willravel 04-28-2010 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rahl (Post 2781787)
I hate chocolate protein drinks. I can only stomach strawberry. I've modified my diet to eat 5 300 calorie meals per day. I do cheat on the weekends a bit, alcohol and pizza mostly.

No, no actual chocolate milk. Like the brown stuff you buy from the dairy section next to the regular milk. The delicious stuff. You don't even have to add protein powder. Michael Phelps drinks it between races. The International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism found that chocolate milk is superior to sports drinks.
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Originally Posted by rahl (Post 2781787)
Also regarding yoga x, I hate it and don't do it. I substitute either cardio x or plyometrics. My goal is to get down to around 175 and have a relatively defined chest, shoulders and arms. I don't have the diet to have a six pack, but a reasonably flat stomach will suffice.

Honestly? Bad idea. When I mentioned to me previous personal trainer (now friend) that I was doing P90X and wanted to skip the recovery week, she explained that the program was designed to work a particular way, a particularly efficient way. By changing the program, I would have been reducing its proven effectiveness. Having actually done it 3 times all the way through, I can tell you Yoga X is a better overall workout than Cardio X. While Plyo undoubtedly burns more calories, it's intended to do different things. Yoga is the one exercise in the program that's best for compound exercise, or exercise that uses different sets of muscle groups.

And for the record, about 80% of P90X is the diet.

rahl 04-28-2010 10:48 AM

Thanks Will, I may have to reconsider Yoga X. My diet isn't really THAT bad, just mainly weekend cocktails and bad drunk eating. The rest of the time I'm pretty good about it.

AquaFox 04-28-2010 11:47 AM

i know two people who do the p90x thing and both have good things to say about it.

snowy 07-29-2010 11:53 AM

So...we just got the DVDs from a friend. I'm looking forward to trying this out. It sounds like the diet we already eat is pretty in-line with what they recommend for the nutritional side of things--just more protein. Since obviously we're not getting the little booklet, is there someone out there willing to share some more information with me?

Meier_Link 07-30-2010 05:41 PM

If you're following the plan laid out in the book, the 1st phase is low carb, basically like your south beach diet, they recommend a lot of calories in the diet guide, about 2,400 on the low end but if your goal is to lose weight I'd probably go a little less (maybe 1800 or so if you're keeping track). The second month is more of a balance between good carbs and protiens and the third month is high carb. Personally, I just stick with a balance of carbs and proteins, protein shakes, whole grains, lean meat, etc. It's worked out well for me so far (155 from 220) but I can't help but wonder if I'd be all ripped up by now if I followed it to the t.

Willravel 07-30-2010 06:23 PM

I don't care for the meal list they laid out (what kind of sick person puts tomatoes in scrambled eggs?!), but the unit plan is really easy to stick to. During my first phase, I had 7 units of protein, 3 of dairy, 1 of fruit (this was difficult, I love fruit), 4 of vegetables, 1 of fats, 1 of carbs, and 3 snacks. It just meant a lot of shakes, fish, poultry, etc.

snowy 07-31-2010 10:48 AM

Yeah, see--we eat vegetarian around these parts, so we're subbing in other sources of lean protein.

Willravel 07-31-2010 11:41 AM

Wheat gluten FTW.

Panopticon 08-04-2010 10:07 PM

I just started P90x on Wednesday evening with the prescribed Chest & Back DVD.

All I can say is...WOW! I've never worked that hard in my life! I was mostly only doing 5 reps on the pull up exercises and about 10-20 on most of the push-up exercises. I can't imagine ever being able to get up to 20 or 30 like they do in the video!

I was so dead by the end that I couldn't even keep up with the Ab Ripper X that they tell you to do. For most of that video, I just laid on the ground in a mess.

I can't wait to try out the plyometrics tomorrow!

Willravel 08-04-2010 11:06 PM

You'll get there a lot faster than you might think. I struggled with yoga on the first week, but by week 4 it was simple. Best of luck and don't give up!

snowy 08-05-2010 07:17 AM

I like Tony, but I'm pretty sure teaching yoga isn't his strong suit. I ended up doing my own routines of the same poses after turning him off. That, and since it was my SO's first time attempting yoga, I had to spend a lot of time correcting his form.

However, it was really awesome to find something athletic that I'm better than my SO at!

kutulu 08-05-2010 08:34 AM

I'm in my final recovery week of my second time through P90x. The first time I did lean, the second time I did classic. When I finish this, I'll start right back up again. I'm 5-10, 200 lbs. After 6 months, I really haven't lost any weight but I've exchanged a substantial amount of body fat for lean muscle mass. I don't really follow the diet plan. What I have done is to try and eat mostly good foods.

I do all my workouts in the morning. I used to do the Abripper at night before dinner but now I do my best to do it immediately after the workout without stopping. I did that because before I would be so tired after the workout that I wouldn't be able to make it through ABX, now I'm in better shape and it is actually easier to continue than it is to do the ABX from a cold start in the afternoon.

On the Yoga, yes Tony talks too much but the thing is that this is set up for someone who has never done Yoga before. You have to make it simple for someone doing it for the first time.

One thing that bugs the shit out of me: Why do they wear shoes during the KenpoX? I think that is a terrible idea. Shoes grip the floor, when you are spinning and kicking, you want the ease of movement that comes from being barefoot. Do to any martial arts school, do any of them wear shoes?

Willravel 08-05-2010 11:13 AM

I don't wear shoes for any of the exercises. I can easily see myself rolling my ankle if I wear running or basketball shoes while doing plyo, and that's no good.

You know what bugs me? Tony shamelessly flirting with a married woman. I can understand him maybe flirting once, just to entertain the people at home, but he won't let up. By the end of the exercises, I kinda want to hit him. iirc, the worst is Shoulders and Arms.

kutulu 08-05-2010 12:47 PM

I would think that shoes are more likely to protect you against rolling an ankle than cause it.

The flirting with Dreya is odd. I read somewhere that he knows her and her husband really well so it may not be as bad as it looks.

The_Jazz 08-05-2010 12:51 PM

Shoes generally add lateral stability, although there are exceptions. Running shoes only add a marginal amount. Tennis and basketball shoes usually add a lot.

Baraka_Guru 08-05-2010 01:15 PM

I'm pretty sure cross-trainers give you a lot of lateral support comparatively. That's what I use in the gym, and I do all kinds of crazy shit.

Speaking of which, when I first started with my PT, I had the same reaction I've read here so far, which tells me the program is effective (as much as a PT!).

I remember doing a hell of a lot of lunges of varying types. By the time I moved on to upper-body work, my legs felt like they were those of a robotic toddler.


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