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Old 04-06-2007, 01:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A Cracked beak.

I noticed a small crack on my parrot's beak. Is it something dangerous? We found her a few weeks back near my place, and the ravens were attacking her. The worst part is, someone's snipped the tail and wings off.

Prior to this, she's been pretty normal (never whistles for anyone except a few), and goes round and round the cage she's in, and balances on her beak while climbing down. Her diet is all natural. Apples, watermelon and watermelon seeds, sunflower seeds, guava, peach, dates and the rest.

I have no experience with pet birds, and this worries me. No chance of the beak falling off, like Jacko's nose, is there? (Yes, I'm very worried)
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Old 04-06-2007, 04:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It depends on where the crack is. A pic of the bird will help in the ID as well.
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Old 04-06-2007, 05:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Is the bird eating well? Is it a new crack or something that has been there since you found the bird? Does it look infected/oozy? If it's affecting the bird eating or looks inflamed, take the bird to a vet ASAP.

I've had pet birds (parakeets, lovebirds, and cockatiels) most of my life, and I've seen some smallish cracks in beaks before...I've never seen a problem arise with it. If you are that concerned though, call a vet. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea anyway if the bird was being attacked when you found it.
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Old 04-08-2007, 03:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The bird's eating just fine. It looks healthy too.

Here's a pic, I'm afraid it's very blurry, since I took it on my mobile cam, the bird's broken the lens of my digi cams when I tried to click it before.

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Old 04-08-2007, 07:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It's not a crack per se but it's flaking. The beak is made up of layers of keratin, like your fingernails. You will notice it rub the side of its beak on surfaces like a chef running his/her knife on a steel. In time it'll be worn down smoothly.

Looking at the proportions of the head and beak...assuming it's reddish w/black tip, I'm guessing that it's from the ring neck family of parrots and if so a female is it lacks the black ring around the neck. A fun family of parrots. I miss my plum headded and the rest of the flock.

Got a full body shot? Of the bird of course .

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BTW...I found my Goffin's cockatoo in a similar manner. I was having a smoke break in an alleyway and from the corner of my eye I vaguely notice a white pigeon followed by a flock of regular colored pigeons parade by. A few moments later it crossed and I had to look a few times ad the leading white pigeon didn't quite fit in the manner of walking and overall shape.

A quickly walked up to it...it looked at me looking at him...I stuck my hand out for it to hop on at it literally jumped on, up my arm and "Spiderman" clinged on the front of my sweater. I cuddled him up and the rest is history.

I've posted signs for lost parrot and not one correct claimer. I figure after six months he's mine.

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Old 04-10-2007, 08:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I showed my bird to the vet, he said it was probably the fact that she's in a cage that causes this. Apparently, this makes them depressed and constantly climb around the cage and wear the beak out. I tried letting her out for a small walk around the room, but she seems happier in the cage.
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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She is happier in the cage because she's not used to coming out of it. Your bird will be much healthier and happier with regular, out-of-cage exercise and handling. Just make sure the room is safe. I always keep my windows covered with sheer curtains so if my bird flies into a window, the curtain prevents them from hitting the glass. Also be careful of things like ceiling fans, open toilets, sinks full of water, hot stoves, anything made of lead that birds will chew on, avocados, and nonstick cooking items.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:32 AM   #8 (permalink)
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She is happier in the cage because she's not used to coming out of it. Your bird will be much healthier and happier with regular, out-of-cage exercise and handling. Just make sure the room is safe. I always keep my windows covered with sheer curtains so if my bird flies into a window, the curtain prevents them from hitting the glass. Also be careful of things like ceiling fans, open toilets, sinks full of water, hot stoves, anything made of lead that birds will chew on, avocados, and nonstick cooking items.
All so true.

I have a severe macaw. She loves her cage. I take her out every day and we play, but if I leave her on top she ends up right back inside later. Every once in a while she find me if I leave the door open.

I would check with a bird shop on the correct diet. Some parrots can't live on seeds, especially the larger ones. Mine eats a mix called Rowdy Bush that gives her everything she needs. I suplement with all kinds of treats like nuts, pretty much anything we eat, lean chicken. She loves cherries but hates pineapple! Go figure. Diet is very important and since I don't know specifically what kind of parrot you have, that's all I can say.

Bird stores are a great resource for bird health. They can keep everything in shape including the wings clipped. On anything larger than love birds that is important because they can fly around and get hurt in your house.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, that's a relief. But my bird hides under a table or ledge within seconds. Is this normal too?
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Old 04-24-2007, 08:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It take an "older" parrot a bit of time to get adjusted to you and it's new surroundings. If you have a square flat top cage, you can make a "jungle gym" from wood dowels or sisal/jute/hemp rope wrapped around 1/2"-3/4" PVC. Place it on top and hang a few of it's toys.

Here's a link to get an idea:
http://www.windycityparrot.com/Merch...de=70302191001

When I was with the X, I had a Blue Front Amazon (Charlie) and she and the Goffin (Monty) hung out all the time and play chase across the gym that spanned between and over their cages. Keeping them clipped, they were free roamers, rarely ventured on the ground and only went into the cage to eat, drink and sometimes sleep.

I miss them alot.
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Old 05-05-2007, 10:52 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Serious question: how do you prevent bird crap from being anywhere and everywhere?
That's a good one!!

The first thing my wife taught our macaw was to poop on command, at first holding her over the toliet. Now I ask her to go poop before taking her out of the cage. Then, I take her to the bathroom every 30 minutes or so - more if I feed her which I try to avoid when holding her.

They tend to go about every 30 minutes. I'd wait 15-20 minutes after they eat if you plan to take her out of their cage. And of course, teach them to drop a load before removal from the cage or perch!
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I think it's flakiing as well and is normal. It's hard to tell from the pic but it looks like you might have a Quaker parakeet (we used to have one named "Cheeks").

Birds are so fickle with their behavior and have such individual personalities that it's hard to say what's "normal" for each one.

Our orange wing amazon Rex, was pretty much neglected by his previous owners before we bought him at 3 yrs. of age. His cage was tucked in a corner in a dining room that was basically an alcove off of a long hallway, in no way near his "people" most of the time.

As a result he wasn't socialized very well (and hasn't become much more in 16 yrs. with us). Someone had started to teach him to say hello and I was able to get him to speak the full word, but he was to old for much vocabulary building and has never learned more. He does a mean wolf whisle though and mimicks my laugh dead on.

He (she/it, we've never had him sexed, just seems like a boy) actually prefers his cage. We take him out and in short order he goes home again. I don't think the "going round in circles" is because it's stir crazy. Rex climbs round his cage when he's feelin' frisky. Then he usually goes and "kills" his bell. I think they use their beaks as a sort of "third hand" to climb.

Good luck with your new feathered kid and don't worry to much. The longer it's with you, the more you'll know what's "normal" for him/her.

I found the magazine "Bird Talk" invaluable for learning about Rex when we first got him, you might want to subscribe. Then again we didn't have the net back then.

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Old 05-07-2007, 04:52 AM   #14 (permalink)
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LOL...that stretch of floor there was a drop cloth.

Ours did a "poopie dance" and you had about 10sec before the bombing run began...LOL!
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LOL...that stretch of floor there was a drop cloth.

Ours did a "poopie dance" and you had about 10sec before the bombing run began...LOL!
I can tell when my cockatiels are about to go and occasionally have enough time to get them off my clothing or couch and over some paper...I'd LOVE to be able to potty train them but I don't think that's happening! (In fact, I'd never heard of a potty trained bird until this thread!)
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