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Old 03-05-2007, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who else has their pet(s) microchipped?

I just got my very bad escape artist cat a microchip implant this past weekend. We used homeagain microchip system.

I was wondering who else has micro chipped their pets and if you have ever actually recovered a missing pet using this system??
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Old 03-05-2007, 05:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I had my lil' SweetPea 'chipped the very first day I got her from the rescue.

Lucky for me, I haven't had to use it yet.

It works when someone takes your dog to the pound or what have you and waves a wand to scan for a chip.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I just got a kitten for my SO for xmas from the local vet, and the price included all vaccinations, microchipping and de-sexing. Our other pets have one put in when they needed to be knocked out for another medical procedure...I'm a wimp, that needle looks waaaaay big to be given without knockout juice. Hopefully the chip will never be needed but it is a good idea.
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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nope - i'm just not fully comfortable chipping my pets. black helicopters and tinfoil hats, etc. i seem to recall having some passing acquaintences who have successfully recovered a pet via the chip, however. luckily, my cat is a lot tougher inside the house than outside. as soon as she gets 5 feet from the door, she turns into a little bowl of jello that waits for the door to open a crack so she can whip back in and start tearing shit up inside the house again.
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I have two of my three cats who refuse to wear collars microchipped. Yeah, that needle is awfully big! But those two can hardly be induced to step outside the house, and when they do, I usually go outside with them, so I doubt I'll need it. But hey, things happen.

It makes me so mad when I pick up other people's lost pets, and they don't have a collar or a chip, nothing. So *I* get to decide between hosting an unknown, making fliers, etc., or taking them to the pound...GRRRrrr. Shame on those owners!
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Old 03-06-2007, 10:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Yes, the microchip needle is rather large, however I have seen most pets chipped with little or no reaction. They almost act like they can hardly feel it. I think it has a lot to do with the location that the chip is placed, where a lot of extra loose skin is.

I think that pet's that won't wear a collar should all be chipped, unless of course they are strictly indoors or have no chance/desire to escape.
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Old 03-06-2007, 04:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like pigglet do not feel comfortable chipping my pets, for much the same reason. I work at a vet clinic and see it done and work all the time. I trust in my ability to keep my own pets safe my own way.

From what I have seen at work though, they do work. We've had strays show up or brought in and we scan them.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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*cough* I'll take that back now, thank you very much.

My cats are chipped even though they've seen less than 5 minutes outside between the three of them in the past 2.5 years.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:09 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't understand the objection to chipping. Could someone please explain?
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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jorgelito,

i don't want to speak for others, but i personally do not want to participate in what i essentially consider to be field research and free animal testing for a technology that could potentially be used on humans. that is not to say that the human application is the primary target for all the people involved in pet chipping, on either the user side or the supplier / vet side. on the contrary, i think most of these people, like the people posting in this thread, are good people who only want to protect their pets. however, i do think that it might help pave the way for commercial human implantation / ex-convict monitoring / immigrant monitoring, and would simultaneously provide a large body of well-documented research showing the efficacy of the procedures, as well as having addressed many of the major health and safety issues associated with this technology.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Ah, I see. Well, it's essentially "lo-jack" for pets, I never really thought it would be a stretch to apply the technology to humans.

I would be up in arms if it was forced or coerced but I do see some useful application for it I suppose.

Still, I definitely see your concern being like-minded myself. But for me, it was a conscious choice to chip my pet. I guess I feel a lot of responsibility to her and chipping is one way for me to do my part in keeping her safe.
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Old 03-07-2007, 12:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hey, I hear you - and I personally hope you never need it. My tinfoil hat (which I've just stolen back, merci) isn't really a huge fuck-off bucanneer sized affair, its more of a little jewish skull cap sized deal. i don't mean to cast aspersions of those of y'all who have chipped your animals...i just tend to be a 'fuck authority' kind of guy...so my position fits with my general motif.
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Old 03-07-2007, 03:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I inherited my parent's cat after they both passed away. They lived 40 miles west of Toronto.

I brought Sasha to her new home in Toronto and it wasn't 2 minutes before she seized the first opportunity and fled out the door at the speed of light, hopped a couple of fences and disappeared.

I searched that entire night, but never even caught sight of her, though I could hear her meowing. Everytime I got close, she hit the gas.

The next day, I put up lost cat posters all over. 2 people called me with someone else's cats.

After 6 weeks, I had given her up for dead, or having found a new home, or making her way back "home".

Then one day, I had a call from the Toronto Humane Society that they "had Sasha". I called and they said that they had tried to call my parent's number (disconnected) and then there was a back up number (my sister).

I went down to the pound and they showed me a picture of her on a screen and there was the MOST miserable looking cat I had ever seen, but it was her. 25 bucks and she was sprung. I brought her home and she was skin and bones. She had made it about a mile north of where I live (so much for her homing instinct, she should have been going west.)

Bottom line, the chip worked.

I think it's called an "active chip" or something like that.
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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My cats are chipped - from what I understand, some shelters scan for chips and some don't, but the price was well worth the chance of them being reunited if they every slip out of the house (again).

When the got the chip, they showed no reaction; however, I assumed they were just scared of the unfamiliar environment and basically froze. That needle had to sting.
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Old 03-13-2007, 07:48 AM   #15 (permalink)
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My Newfoundland is not microchipped and a bit hard to lose. She also follows me religiously and won't let me get out of sight. If she had any tendancy to wander, I'd get her chipped.
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Old 03-24-2007, 09:05 AM   #16 (permalink)
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we have all three of our rotties chipped and none of our three cats (the same cats that wear the 'do not use for cats' dog collars)
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:40 PM   #17 (permalink)
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My family's dog and cats are all chipped. It came with their shots. We haven't had to use it yet, and I hope we never do.
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
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My family's dog and cats are all chipped. It came with their shots. We haven't had to use it yet, and I hope we never do.

I'm really curious about what you said. Was chipping an option? Or did they just say they were going to do it?
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:44 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm really curious about what you said. Was chipping an option? Or did they just say they were going to do it?
For me it was a package deal. Of course, it was cheaper without the chipping and I wasn't sure about it then so went the cheaper route. I may go ahead next time around, or grab a kit.

Also, it might be worth looking into the ISO vs. US standards. I know as of 2004ish we in the USA used a slightly oddball system. Scanners for one system don't necessarily pick up the other and pets have been put to death because the animal control agency only had a US standard scanner. Ah, the pitfalls of self-regulation.
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Old 03-28-2007, 05:56 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Mine are not.

Scanners are not universal, chips move around or hide behind organs so they cannot be read, and as katili mentioned, alot of places don't check for chips anyway.

Depending on what part of the country you're in, if a cat is picked up and sneezes while it's at the pound, it's usually euthanized within a few hours because a sneeze automatically means that a cat has a URI. Microchips don't do much for those that are blue juice happy...

Cats that have an upper respiratory infection don't have a UTI although they could.
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Old 03-28-2007, 04:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I am wondering what organs a microchip could possibly hide behind?? It is placed just under the skin in the neck area. Unless it were to move through the muscle there is no way it could get near an organ.
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Old 03-30-2007, 03:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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That's right. They can sometimes slip down to the side of the body, but they don't get internal.

Some friends of ours breed German Shepherd Dogs (yeah, that's the correct name, not German Shepherd). Someone who had adopted one of their dogs lost the dog. It was later recovered by a rescue group who, once they learned that it was from a breeder, decided to save the dog from these "evil" people. Only trouble is that these are very respected breeders, and not the backyard type.

Someone in the group ratted them out, and it took a visit to the foster home with a cop and a chip scanner to get the dog back. Even though the dog was ecstatic to see the breeders, they couldn't have *proven* ownership without that chip. The cop made a show of asking if they wanted to press charges too.

Short version of the story, but there's two points here. The chip can help you, but only if the people who find the dog give a damn. We have all of our dogs chipped btw.
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Old 03-31-2007, 09:02 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm not bashing the microchip idea, I do however think that pet owners put more faith in them than they should. My own vet has issues with microchips but does it after her hubby who works the business end of her clinic spent many months convincing her that profit margins would increase by huge numbers by offering such a service. She now offers it, but for the amount of chips that she has actually done, she's not impressed with her profits from it.

So the question is, who really benefits? Microchips can migrate beyond the skin. Exploritory surgeries have found them all over the place.

http://www.k9magazinefree.com/k9_per...iss23p10.shtml

http://www.apapets.org/micro2.htm

http://www.hsus.org/pets/issues_affe...icrochips.html

http://www.animalsheltering.org/reso...ards_usda.html

http://www.apapets.com/micro.htm
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Old 03-31-2007, 09:23 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I hate to disagree with you on this matter but I am finding no info in any of the articles you provided or my own knowledge that says that a chip could migrate to an area that would be unreadable. In my profession I have worked in four different vet clinics so far over many years. I have never seen a microchip located any where it should not be during surgery. I have assisted in hundreds of surgeries. I am not claiming to be the expert but I would think that with that number I would have come across something if it were indeed an issue.

The other thing about micro chipping is that I never started that it should be relied on as the sole means to track a lost pet. Micro chipping in no way harms a pet so there is no good reason NOT to do it. There is always the chance the chip will not be detected but there is a good chance it WILL be detected.

My cat that has the microchip also has an ID tag and Microchip tag on his collar that we never take off of him. There is nothing wrong with having that little bit of extra protection if you need it.
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Old 03-31-2007, 09:58 AM   #25 (permalink)
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So if your cat were to slip his or her collar and somebody decided that they wanted to make your pet their own. How would a microchip benefit your pet in that situation?

I'm not asking to pick a fight, I'm just curious.

It would seem to me that something like this http://www.globalpetfinder.com/ would be more effective in actually tracking your pet down, however, it still comes in the form of a collar that can be easily removed. This system couldn't be used on cats or dogs under 30 pounds according to the website.

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Old 03-31-2007, 07:35 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I feel like that if my cat gets out and I have micro chipped him, and have him wearing a collar with tags then I have done everything possible to make sure that he is identifiable. Surely that is more then pets who have none of those things!

I am having a hard time understanding what point you are trying to make.

Also the GPS thing is great but really unreasonable for the average person to be able to afford.
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:27 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Miss Mango is echoing one of my points that the people who find the pet have to want to check for a chip and then go to the trouble of identification and notification etc.

But what you might not realize is the great number of animal shelters and, more importantly animal rescue groups that are out there. All of these people check for microchips the minute a new dog arrives, and they do go to the trouble because they want the dog back with it's owner.

Still not perfect as I mentioned because the rescue groups kind be kind of aggressive in protecting the interests of the pet. Still, it does improve your chance of having the pet returned to you. My wife and I used to run a GSD rescue group and after we left, we continued to foster for other groups so I have direct experience with this helping owners recover their pets.
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:01 PM   #28 (permalink)
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nope - i'm just not fully comfortable chipping my pets. black helicopters and tinfoil hats, etc.

agreed...........pretty soon it'll be us getting fuckin' chips.



my dogs are both tattoed.........like it that way.


not really even worried about them even if they do get out.

the few times it has occured,they've come right back with a good loud whistle.


that being said........if people are comfortable with the chip,do it.

it's your choice right?

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I think that pet's that won't wear a collar should all be chipped, unless of course they are strictly indoors or have no chance/desire to escape.

my dogs are strictley outside dogs.

they have thier jobs to do.......

and neither of them wear collars anymore,because of the playtime fights,they just end up ripping them off of each other.

the collars go on for walks only.

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jorgelito,

i don't want to speak for others, but i personally do not want to participate in what i essentially consider to be field research and free animal testing for a technology that could potentially be used on humans. that is not to say that the human application is the primary target for all the people involved in pet chipping, on either the user side or the supplier / vet side. on the contrary, i think most of these people, like the people posting in this thread, are good people who only want to protect their pets. however, i do think that it might help pave the way for commercial human implantation / ex-convict monitoring / immigrant monitoring, and would simultaneously provide a large body of well-documented research showing the efficacy of the procedures, as well as having addressed many of the major health and safety issues associated with this technology.


dude!!!!



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Old 04-01-2007, 07:12 PM   #29 (permalink)
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NSW has made microchipping animals compulsory, so yes, our two cats are done:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/n...ct/caa1998174/
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