Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > The Academy > Tilted Knowledge and How-To


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-02-2003, 08:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
Insane
 
Tempboy's Avatar
 
Location: The Red Mile
alcohol tolerance

Hey guys.. I have really really REALLY bad alcohol tolerance... a couple drinks and I'm pretty much out of the game. I don't get drunk per se, but I start feeling headachy, and my face gets all red, and my heart thumps.
Any suggestions on how to condition myself for alcohol tolerance?

i have a couple months to work with here (till New Years, of course).. anything would be an improvement.
Tempboy is offline  
Old 11-02-2003, 08:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Make sure you've eaten before you start drinking.
Stick with drinking the same thing. For some reason I can drink a lot of scotch (since i drink that more than anything), yet it doesn't take me much to feel the alcohol when I have beers (I rarely drink beer)
Sunrise is offline  
Old 11-02-2003, 09:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
Poo-tee-weet?
 
JStrider's Avatar
 
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Dont build a tolerance... its more expensive!

just know how much you can drink and then switch to something non alcoholic for a little while...
__________________
-=JStrider=-

~Clatto Verata Nicto
JStrider is offline  
Old 11-02-2003, 09:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
‚±‚̈ó˜U‚ª–Ú‚É“ü‚ç‚Ê‚©
 
Location: College
If you're getting "headachy" before you get drunk, your problem may not be something you can train yourself to deal with...

You may be allergic to alcohol, or lack the enzyme to break it down (common in asians).

But if you do manage to get drunk, like JStrider says, don't bother building a tolerance. It's the same drunk no matter how many drinks it takes you to get there.
lordjeebus is offline  
Old 11-02-2003, 10:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
Desert Rat
 
spived2's Avatar
 
Location: Arizona
Quote:
Originally posted by JStrider
Dont build a tolerance... its more expensive!
Hah aint that the truth.

Best thing I can think of is just try one types of drink each time you go out until you find something that doesn't affect you in that way.
__________________

"This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is it vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished, as the once vital voice of the verisimilitude now venerates what they once vilified. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose vis-à-vis an introduction, and so it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."
- V
spived2 is offline  
Old 11-03-2003, 02:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
**PORNHOUND**
 
Ashton's Avatar
 
Location: California
What are you drinking? cheap crap always gives me a headache..... don't say Zima or Winecoolers, if that's what you've been drinking you deserve a headache......
Ashton is offline  
Old 11-03-2003, 01:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
Super Agitator
 
Liquor Dealer's Avatar
 
Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A
If what you are drinking is giving you a headache then quit drinking it. If hitting yourself in the head with a hammer gives you a headache quit hitting yourself in the head. There is absolutely no difference in those two statements. You either have an intolerance to what you are drinking or to alcohol in general. Try drinking better quality liquor and if that doesn't work quit now (I started to say unless you're one of my customers but, I'd tell them the same thing). Alcohol is not for everybody.
__________________
Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!
Liquor Dealer is offline  
Old 11-03-2003, 05:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Location: NYC Metro Area
Many people of Asian or American Indian decent have an innate low tolerance for alcohol (often called the red or yellow flush)...If you drink through this "low tolerance", your tolerance will increase. This of course increases your chance of becomming addicted to alcohol. A low tolerance for alcohol is natures way of telling you to tred very carefully with the booze, otherwise you may wind up a friend of Bill.
hotdogg is offline  
Old 11-03-2003, 10:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
pow!
 
clavus's Avatar
 
Location: NorCal
Quote:
Originally posted by lordjeebus

You may be allergic to alcohol, or lack the enzyme to break it down
This is probably it.

You can try avoiding drinks with sugar in them, but you are probably not meant to drink alcohol.
__________________
Ass, gas or grass. Nobody rides for free.
clavus is offline  
Old 11-04-2003, 02:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
A Real American
 
Holo's Avatar
 
You can order what is called a "spacer" any non-alcoholic beverage in between every alc beverage you drink. Slows down your intake and keeps you in the game so to speak. Also heed the advice of eating a good meal before hand...you may also want to expirement with different foods to see how well they set with alcohol in your stomach.maybe share an appetizer during also if your stomach can handle it since many are kinda greasy.
__________________
I happen to like the words "fuck", "cock", "pussy", "tits", "cunt", "twat", "shit" and even "bitch". As long as I am not using them to describe you, don't go telling me whether or not I can/should use them...that is, if you want me to continue refraining from using them to describe you. ~Prince
Holo is offline  
Old 11-04-2003, 02:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
Crazy
 
try red bull, you know the fruity energy drink, taking 3 of them before drinking seems to really help, you get drunk, but as drink sedates you and they make you hyper, they seem to cancle each other out.
Devilchild is offline  
Old 11-04-2003, 03:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
Tilted
 
Location: Australia
My advice, like some others is to have something good to eat before hand. Also what are you drinking? Stick with Vodka or Gin because clearer alchol I'm told is more 'natural', absorbed better by the body, and doesent give the big headaches that some other's do.
jw_toyboy is offline  
Old 11-04-2003, 08:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
Super Agitator
 
Liquor Dealer's Avatar
 
Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A
Take an Alka-Seltzer before you go out - Eat something with lots of butter, or drink a lot of heavy cream. Never drink anything other than on an almost full stomach. Avoid carbonated drinks - you get the alcohol a lot quicker when it is CO2 accelerated. Wine instead of champagne - straight bourbon instead of 7 and 7. Believe me - it works. If this fails - drink coke and have a great evening - you'll feel a hell of a lot better in the morning and might get a lot luckier tonight.
__________________
Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!
Liquor Dealer is offline  
Old 11-04-2003, 08:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Eat a good meal before you drink.

And, though this may sound a bit strange, drink a glass of milk. It helps by lining your stomach and seems to aid metabolizing alchohol.

Space out your drinks.

Mr Mephisto
Mephisto2 is offline  
Old 11-13-2003, 01:46 AM   #15 (permalink)
Upright
 
Quote:
Originally posted by lordjeebus
You may be allergic to alcohol, or lack the enzyme to break it down (common in asians).
uhhhhh im asian. 70% friends are asian. we can out drink most of our white college buddies. hm ive never heard that enzyme breakdown thing before
dangsta is offline  
Old 11-13-2003, 08:25 AM   #16 (permalink)
Upright
 
either drink top shelf, or clear liquor, try taking shots-they taste great-less quanity
Smoey is offline  
Old 11-14-2003, 12:07 AM   #17 (permalink)
‚±‚̈ó˜U‚ª–Ú‚É“ü‚ç‚Ê‚©
 
Location: College
Quote:
Originally posted by dangsta
uhhhhh im asian. 70% friends are asian. we can out drink most of our white college buddies. hm ive never heard that enzyme breakdown thing before
See http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m.../article.jhtml or search google.

A quote:

Quote:
When a person drinks alcohol, two different enzymes in the liver break it down, first into acetaldehyde and then into acetate. People with a shortage of the second enzyme, aldehyde dehydrogenase-2 (ALDH-2)--which is normally detected in blood and saliva--can't break down acetaldehyde efficiently.

...

Among Asians, 2 percent of people carry a genetic mutation that causes them to totally lack ALDH-2. In nearly all cases, these people can't drink alcohol because it makes them flushed, dizzy, and nauseated.

Many other Asians, including nearly half of the Japanese population, have a milder form of the mutation. These people produce some ALDH-2 but typically less than one-third the normal amount. They have less severe reactions to alcohol than people without any ALDH-2.
lordjeebus is offline  
Old 11-17-2003, 05:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
Upright
 
Location: Cali
Beer

The biggest problem with alcohol is dehydration. Drink a couple glasses of water before drinking. Drink a glass of water every time you urinate. This will help keep the body hydrated. Don't beer bong. Pace yourself. Last of all try and stay away from the cheap stuff. There is a beer site that can help you find a better quality beer that tastes a hell of a lot better. www. theBeerGuys.com.
This should help. Like others say, build up a tolerance. Alcohol absorbs through the skin so as soon as it hits your mouth. Slow to one every hour and a half and follow the dehydration rules and you should be okay.
mac Daddy is offline  
Old 11-19-2003, 11:29 AM   #19 (permalink)
Upright
 
Location: Austin, Tx
I get a headache when I am drinking cheap stuff also, and for some reason scotch gives me a headache too. The best advice I can give is to eat a greasy meal before drinking and drink alot of water before and after.
HoChiMinh is offline  
Old 11-19-2003, 11:35 AM   #20 (permalink)
Modern Man
 
Location: West Michigan
Quote:
Originally posted by Smoey
either drink top shelf, or clear liquor, try taking shots-they taste great-less quanity
I would mess around with different drinks. See what gives you the best feeling. Personally I avoid mixing anything with coke. The less sugar, the better the feeling and the easier the hangover. I stick to mixing with water, Bourbon and water, Scotch and water. Liquor with water is very nice, the water can take the bite out of it while still leaving a full flavor.

Experiment. But don't over do it. I like the idea of a "spacer" drink too. Good luck. Remember slow and steady wins the race.
__________________
Lord, have mercy on my wicked soul
I wouldn't mistreat you baby, for my weight in gold.
-Son House, Death Letter Blues
Conclamo Ludus is offline  
Old 11-20-2003, 10:29 AM   #21 (permalink)
Rookie
 
cliche's Avatar
 
Location: Oxford, UK
I have the same problem (I'm not asian BTW) - it's been getting worse over the last few years; only used to appear with spirits but recently I went red after only 1 1/2 pints of cider! Horrible, blotchy rash all over my face and arms (torso and legs if I carry on drinking). Oddly, my sister and mother have the same problem.
The asian thing (I'm not sure it's the same as you're supposed to feel horrible due to build up of aldehydes) is caused by a deficiency of the enzyme "acetaldehyde dehydrogenase". It isn't the enzyme that breaks down alcohol (so they shouldn't get drunk any more easily), it breaks down the chemical that is produced from alcohol by the body. This is an "aldehyde"; levels build up and cause the flushing/headache/generally feeling crap that these people suffer from. It's nothing particularly to do with being asian; it's just that genetics dictate the mutation is more common in the asian community.
__________________
I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones. -- John Cage (1912 - 1992)
cliche is offline  
Old 11-20-2003, 11:57 AM   #22 (permalink)
Insane
 
Location: ...We have a problem.
Why is it so important to drink alcohol anyway? Answer that and you'll find your nirvana.
__________________
Cruel words erode self-esteem like the ocean eats away the shore.
txlovely is offline  
Old 11-20-2003, 12:19 PM   #23 (permalink)
Modern Man
 
Location: West Michigan
Quote:
Originally posted by txlovely
Why is it so important to drink alcohol anyway? Answer that and you'll find your nirvana.
Everyone knows that if you don't drink alcohol you will never have fun and your penis will fall off.

"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom."

-King Solomon
__________________
Lord, have mercy on my wicked soul
I wouldn't mistreat you baby, for my weight in gold.
-Son House, Death Letter Blues
Conclamo Ludus is offline  
Old 11-20-2003, 12:36 PM   #24 (permalink)
Loser
 
Location: a darkened back alley
Conclamo Ludus: Hurray for excess! (In moderation, of course.)

Try drinks with fruit juices. While these drinks do have more natural sugars to them, they also hydrate the body more than drinks that are almost entirely alcohol. No one will think you're a wimp if you have a screwdriver or a tequila sunrise; at least, no one worth speaking of.
Bloodslick is offline  
Old 11-20-2003, 12:56 PM   #25 (permalink)
Upright
 
Location: South Kakilaky
Hangover Ratings

Found this nifty little page on hungover.net showing which drinks are going to have you splitting your own head open because it feels like your brain is about to reach critical mass, and which drinks leave you feeling fresh as a......very fresh thing. (Srry brain fart)
__________________
A true gentleman believes that others are more important than he, that kindness is not a sign of weakness, and that respect is a necessity.
xtreemmar1ne is offline  
Old 11-22-2003, 10:10 AM   #26 (permalink)
Invisible
 
yournamehere's Avatar
 
Location: tentative, at best
Quote:
Originally posted by Liquor Dealer
. . . and if that doesn't work quit now . . . Alcohol is not for everybody.
Quote:
Originally posted by txlovely
Why is it so important to drink alcohol anyway? Answer that and you'll find your nirvana.
Exactly. Your body is telling you you're poisoning it - consider it a blessing - it will save you many regrets in the years to come. Take it from someone who took many years to learn that same lesson.
__________________
If you want to avoid 95% of internet spelling errors:
"If your ridiculous pants are too loose, you're definitely going to lose them. Tell your two loser friends over there that they're going to lose theirs, too."
It won't hurt your fashion sense, either.
yournamehere is offline  
Old 11-26-2003, 09:58 PM   #27 (permalink)
MSD
The sky calls to us ...
 
MSD's Avatar
 
Super Moderator
Location: CT
http://ru-21.blogspot.com/

New pill from Russia that, when taken before drinking, can prevent hangover. Not site-plugging, just advice.
MSD is offline  
Old 12-12-2003, 05:42 PM   #28 (permalink)
:::OshnSoul:::
Guest
 
Maybe it is an allergic reaction- your body can't handle alcohol period. I would ask a Dr.
Besides, you don't need to drink anyways. I don't like heavy drinking, although I will have a drink or two once in a while when I am out or sip on a cider at home. That's it. Alcohol was never meant to be consumed. (Although i hear one glass of red wine a day decreases chance in heart problems.....)
 
Old 12-12-2003, 10:57 PM   #29 (permalink)
Insane
 
Tempboy's Avatar
 
Location: The Red Mile
well, I'm not drinking to get drunk..
it's just social drinking.
Can't even really engage in that, because after one, I'm red as a beet and my heart starts thumping. After two, I can feel a little bit of a dizzy headachy feeling. More than that, and I'm out of the game.
Tempboy is offline  
Old 01-27-2004, 08:52 PM   #30 (permalink)
Crazy
 
Unga's Avatar
 
That's why you order your usual orange juice
Social drinking.. bleh. I get too rushed by the people i'm with :P
Unga is offline  
Old 02-02-2004, 09:37 AM   #31 (permalink)
Crazy
 
I love drinking games. You take a hit while your young to build your tolerance up when you get older. Don't worry about getting drunk to quick. Think of it as a beginning point and you can only improve.
Parker is offline  
Old 02-02-2004, 11:25 AM   #32 (permalink)
Insane
 
Location: right over here
I knew a guy like you, "red" ed , He would get wasted though and look like he was going to die. I too,would ask a doctor , I would worry it might be liver related which is something you don't want to mess with.
piglet is offline  
Old 02-02-2004, 12:34 PM   #33 (permalink)
Upright
 
Alcohol IS a drug

Although we are all individuals capable of making our own choices (as is our right) since we live in a society containing other people we must also respect the rights of others. Heavy drinking puts a large burden on the healthcare system due to driving accidents, liver damage, and alcoholism. Remember, your body only has enough enzyme to process ethanol into ethanoic (acetic) acid for about 2 drinks every 3-4 hours depending on the person. Any more than that allows the aldehyde to stay in the blood and brain, possibly breaking down neurochemicals into morphine-like substances and building up in your liver. Also, your brain can shrink from prolonged abuse. As with any recreational drug PLEASE read all the literature available so YOU are making the right choice not only for yourself but for society as a whole.
Nevus is offline  
Old 02-09-2004, 09:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
Insane
 
Location: On a gravel road rough enought to knock fillings out of teeth.
Stay sober, it makes it much easier to accurately swing a barstool if the need arises.
__________________
Judge me all you want, but keep the verdict to yourself.
BoomTruck is offline  
Old 02-20-2004, 07:57 PM   #35 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Amaras's Avatar
 
Location: At my daughter's beck and call.
I am an alcoholic who built his "tolerance" over years. As mentioned above, DO NOT build your tolerance. If you want to lose your inhibitions (sic), look inward. I am still a practising alcoholic, and my life is spiralling steadily downward. All macho bullshit aside, the fact that I can down 30 beers is not good, it is a sickness, not "cool". I can understand why you ask the question you did, but believe me, tolerance to alcohol for those of you not afflicted should not be a concern. Enjoy your ability to put it down, as I cannot.
__________________
Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state.
-Noam Chomsky
Love is a verb, not a noun.
-My Mom
The function of genius is to furnish cretins with ideas twenty years later.
-Louis Aragon, "La Porte-plume," Traite du style, 1928
Amaras is offline  
Old 02-25-2004, 07:57 AM   #36 (permalink)
Insane
 
Tempboy's Avatar
 
Location: The Red Mile
Sorry to hear that..
I'm not interested in getting tanked every weekend, or anything like that.

It'd be nice to be able to drink socially without feeling sick or tired though.
Tempboy is offline  
Old 03-02-2004, 01:38 AM   #37 (permalink)
Banned
 
Location: Vegas/So. Cal
Space out drinking over a time too, that helps.
Zander is offline  
 

Tags
alcohol, tolerance


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:12 AM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360