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cas305 · 03-24-2005, 08:35 AM

Development on the previously announced Tribes: Vengeance 1.1 update has been cancelled. No further updates to Tribes: Vengeance are planned.

http://community.vugames.com/WebX?23...rh.0@.1dd97873

Vivendi Universal needs to be boycotted by all! It is bad enough that so many games get released that are unfinished, but to get peoples money and promise a patch, then 6 months later just say oh well we are done, on to taking your money with the next beta release. This is not the first game they have done this with either. They buy up the rights release under a good game title and then produce crap and not support it. Well I am done ranting, just thought if I could get only 1 person not to buy from them then I have helped the cause.

Scorps · 03-24-2005, 08:42 AM

Kinda like Top Gear:RPM Tuning....lol only cost 20 dollars

RubenBaraja · 03-24-2005, 09:04 AM

Vivendi Univeral had something to do with LSL Magna Cum Laude so I cant see me buying their products again

Cynthetiq · 03-24-2005, 09:26 AM

there's lots of shovelware for all systems.... because people buy things in shiny colorful boxes.

vote with your wallet.

Coppertop · 03-24-2005, 12:48 PM

Shovelware, nice...

Lasereth · 03-24-2005, 01:53 PM

The reason this fact is true is because everyone relies on their friends and family to say which games are good. Then you go buy the game that your cousin said rocked and find out he just liked it because the main character has breasts.

READ VIDEOGAME REVIEWS. These people are not paid to lie. They are not fanboys like your cousin. They are not opinionated. They are trained to notice and point out aspects of games that gamers want to know about. Read the reviews and buy the games that get good reviews. It's really not hard!

And Vivendi is probably spending all of their money on WoW.

-Lasereth

Cynthetiq · 03-24-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth

The reason this fact is true is because everyone relies on their friends and family to say which games are good. Then you go buy the game that your cousin said rocked and find out he just liked it because the main character has breasts.

READ VIDEOGAME REVIEWS. These people are not paid to lie. They are not fanboys like your cousin. They are not opinionated. They are trained to notice and point out aspects of games that gamers want to know about. Read the reviews and buy the games that get good reviews. It's really not hard!

And Vivendi is probably spending all of their money on WoW.

-Lasereth

Not all magazines are worth listening to as reviewers. Game Informer is a publication from GameStop, they have an interest in selling games and collecting money from advertising in that magazine.

One of the problems of all reviewers from cars to games is that the industry advertises inside of them, so there's potential for bias. If they say a game sucks.. then the company pulls advertising for a few months to teach them a lesson. That's one of the reasons true shovelware still gets a 4-6 rating in many magazines. To me I've learned that 4-6 is really the same as 0-3 in a 1-5 rating system, which as far as I'm concerned doesn't warrant my $$$.

Wyodiver33 · 03-24-2005, 04:04 PM

I almost always do a lot of research before buying a $50 game. I say almost always, because I feel pretty safe with Blizzard and id. But I have been burned too many times by impulse buys. Do your homework. Don't feel that you just HAVE to have a game on its first day out. It's ok to wait a few weeks to let the reviews flow.

n0nsensical · 03-24-2005, 04:48 PM

Really a shame how this franchise has been killed off. Tribes at its best is still my #1 game of all time. I played the T:V beta and actually thought it was pretty good and put $5 down on a preorder. But when it came out, I was too busy to play it, then my computer that could run the game had a hard drive meltdown, I was building a new system anyway and it took me a while to do that, then my DSL went down for over a month, and now it's now and I still haven't played, but one of these days I'll go buy it hopefully for $15 if they still have that preorder.

Coppertop · 03-24-2005, 05:03 PM

gamerankings.com is your friend.

Lasereth · 03-24-2005, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq

Not all magazines are worth listening to as reviewers. Game Informer is a publication from GameStop, they have an interest in selling games and collecting money from advertising in that magazine.

One of the problems of all reviewers from cars to games is that the industry advertises inside of them, so there's potential for bias. If they say a game sucks.. then the company pulls advertising for a few months to teach them a lesson. That's one of the reasons true shovelware still gets a 4-6 rating in many magazines. To me I've learned that 4-6 is really the same as 0-3 in a 1-5 rating system, which as far as I'm concerned doesn't warrant my $$$.

I don't buy a single game if it gets below an 8.0 average from www.metacritic.com , Electronic Gaming Monthly, or IGN.com. I agree that 4-6 is basically a waste of money. I also believe it's important to find a review site or magazine that you agree with so you don't gotta worry about payoffs. That's why I stick to a combination of the aforementioned sources.

-Lasereth

Cynthetiq · 03-24-2005, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyodiver33

I almost always do a lot of research before buying a $50 game. I say almost always, because I feel pretty safe with Blizzard and id. But I have been burned too many times by impulse buys. Do your homework. Don't feel that you just HAVE to have a game on its first day out. It's ok to wait a few weeks to let the reviews flow.

heck i'm such a cheap gamer that I'll even wait until it gets into a bargain bin... of course some strong games that are really good hold their price for well into the game cycle.

cas305 · 03-25-2005, 06:10 AM

Yea the sad part on this game is it had potential and with some bug fixes and balance issues could be a good game!

I totally agree with you guys on reading reviews, which T:V got decent reviews. I am just guessing that it didn't meet their sales expectations so time for them to move on.

One place I have never bothered to check was the Better Business Bureau for company reviews, Vivendi Universal was rated with a F. Might be something I check in the future.

MH73 · 03-25-2005, 11:31 PM

This along with Interstate '76 will always live on in my memories...

Alas, neither franchise can be (or will be) resucitated...

I hope another highly addicting, underrated game comes out soon... :P

FngKestrel · 03-26-2005, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth

I don't buy a single game if it gets below an 8.0 average from www.metacritic.com , Electronic Gaming Monthly, or IGN.com. I agree that 4-6 is basically a waste of money. I also believe it's important to find a review site or magazine that you agree with so you don't gotta worry about payoffs. That's why I stick to a combination of the aforementioned sources.

-Lasereth

I use gamerankings.com like Coppertop, but metacritic looks pretty comprehensive as well. Thanks for the link!

CBlend · 03-26-2005, 03:55 PM

Thanks for the metacritic link, Lasereth! They even have book reviews, which is nice.

03-24-2005, 08:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
cas305 Insane Location: Indiana	If we buy crap they will make crap! Development on the previously announced Tribes: Vengeance 1.1 update has been cancelled. No further updates to Tribes: Vengeance are planned. http://community.vugames.com/WebX?23...rh.0@.1dd97873 Vivendi Universal needs to be boycotted by all! It is bad enough that so many games get released that are unfinished, but to get peoples money and promise a patch, then 6 months later just say oh well we are done, on to taking your money with the next beta release. This is not the first game they have done this with either. They buy up the rights release under a good game title and then produce crap and not support it. Well I am done ranting, just thought if I could get only 1 person not to buy from them then I have helped the cause.

03-24-2005, 09:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	there's lots of shovelware for all systems.... because people buy things in shiny colorful boxes. vote with your wallet. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

03-24-2005, 01:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	The reason this fact is true is because everyone relies on their friends and family to say which games are good. Then you go buy the game that your cousin said rocked and find out he just liked it because the main character has breasts. READ VIDEOGAME REVIEWS. These people are not paid to lie. They are not fanboys like your cousin. They are not opinionated. They are trained to notice and point out aspects of games that gamers want to know about. Read the reviews and buy the games that get good reviews. It's really not hard! And Vivendi is probably spending all of their money on WoW. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

03-24-2005, 04:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
Wyodiver33 Just here for the beer. Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Floriduh	I almost always do a lot of research before buying a $50 game. I say almost always, because I feel pretty safe with Blizzard and id. But I have been burned too many times by impulse buys. Do your homework. Don't feel that you just HAVE to have a game on its first day out. It's ok to wait a few weeks to let the reviews flow. __________________ I like stuff.

03-24-2005, 04:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
n0nsensical Junkie Location: San Francisco	Really a shame how this franchise has been killed off. Tribes at its best is still my #1 game of all time. I played the T:V beta and actually thought it was pretty good and put $5 down on a preorder. But when it came out, I was too busy to play it, then my computer that could run the game had a hard drive meltdown, I was building a new system anyway and it took me a while to do that, then my DSL went down for over a month, and now it's now and I still haven't played, but one of these days I'll go buy it hopefully for $15 if they still have that preorder. __________________ "Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded." --Abraham Lincoln

03-24-2005, 08:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	Kinda like Top Gear:RPM Tuning....lol only cost 20 dollars

03-24-2005, 09:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
RubenBaraja Insane Location: Gaming Thread, and the UK	Vivendi Univeral had something to do with LSL Magna Cum Laude so I cant see me buying their products again

03-24-2005, 12:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	Shovelware, nice...

03-24-2005, 05:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	gamerankings.com is your friend.

03-25-2005, 06:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
cas305 Insane Location: Indiana	Yea the sad part on this game is it had potential and with some bug fixes and balance issues could be a good game! I totally agree with you guys on reading reviews, which T:V got decent reviews. I am just guessing that it didn't meet their sales expectations so time for them to move on. One place I have never bothered to check was the Better Business Bureau for company reviews, Vivendi Universal was rated with a F. Might be something I check in the future.

03-25-2005, 11:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
MH73 Upright	This along with Interstate '76 will always live on in my memories... Alas, neither franchise can be (or will be) resucitated... I hope another highly addicting, underrated game comes out soon... :P

03-26-2005, 03:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
CBlend Junkie Location: Classified	Thanks for the metacritic link, Lasereth! They even have book reviews, which is nice.