Ya it gets worse when your GM takes off, after he was the one telling all of his Guild Managers (me a 5 others) to get as many 40+'s in the guild and lvled up for instance play...I think I'm going to leave my 60 mage where she is but take my 56 rouge and move!

My guild took C'thun down tonight. US 15th-ish. Shattered Hand is the only guild to have two kills in the top 20. Go us. Now that it's properly tuned, it's actually quite a lot of fun. Requires a RIDICULOUS amount of coordination, but it's a wild ride.

Our killshot. I'm the second hunter in on the right next to the guy in PvP gear. Everyone laugh at how silly my ZG shoulders look. Then cry because they're better than GS.
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?i...60054461nk.jpg

Awesome, congrats on the C'thun kill! My guild is getting ready to enter BWL this weekend. We've been doing MC for about two months now, killed Rag (one shotted) for the first time Monday night, and then one shotted him again last night, so it's time to give Razorgore a try.

And yes, unfortunately I agree with you about the GS shoulders vs the ZG shoulders. Still haven't gotten my GS shoulders yet (that and the helm are the two big pieces that I keep getting unlucky on) but I don't quite have the ZG rep for the shoulders.

How long have you guys been working on C'thun before the hotfix, out of curiosity?

This is a side story that entertains me and doesnt' answer the question before I answer the question, but I went out and got smashed with my friends tonight and then came back and signed on. As it turns out, another hunter was leaving, so I got subbed in for Nef and Chrom, and I picked up both DS BP and Therazane's Link, which is awesome. Go random luck and having just the right number of points.

Anyway, Drama has been attempting C'thun for, uh, a long time. I think our first Twin Emps kill was in early-mid February, so I guess we've been working on him for about two months. I joined fairly recently so I only did passes on the un-tuned version for about two weeks. Needless to say, the relief was palpable when he went down

Yea, I know what you mean about just the right number of points - our first Domo kill, I had just enough points to win both the Leaf and the Wristguards of True Flight .. woo. And then I've been feeling bad because the last six weeks have been Eyes of Divinity, but thankfully we got a second Leaf tuesday night.

AQ is such a horrible instance. We killed Ouro tonight, and let me tell you, what a waste of fucking time. The guild probably spent close to 1000g in consumables (mostly greater nature protection pots) for the set pant pieces, lame cloth bracers that are barely and upgrade over Ossirian loot (+1 stam/int, +5 damage/healing on the Ouro vs. -10 resistance on Ossirian) and 100g.

I honestly don't know how it is possible to kill him and not wipe at the end. At 20%, he spawns both scarabs and ground quakes so you can't group up to AE the scarabs and you can't spread out to avoid the ground quakes. Genius encounter design! I don't know if we'll continue to kill him or not. The whole thing is just...ugh.

I haven't been too impressed with AQ in general - we haven't gone to AQ40 yet, but the General Rajaxx encounter in AQ20 seems to be one of the buggiest things I've ever seen. We've been constantly having problems with multiple waves coming at one, waves respawning after they've been killed, Andorov getting stuck in impassable terrain and dying, etc.

The most recent time we killed Rajaxx, Andorov got stuck on impassable terrain and couldn't be healed, even if we were standing on top of him, so he died by the fourth or fifth wave. We finished taking down the waves and started trying to kill Rajaxx, but his knockback kept making our tanks lose aggro, so we graveyard zerged him for the 5 minutes it took to kill him. Expensive and definitely not worth the repair bills. We haven't bothered to go back since.

New patch notes! http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_11_%28preliminary%29

Nice stuff:

* Leather (Light, Medium, etc.) will stack to 20
* Hides (Light, Medium, etc.) will stack to 10
* Cured Hides (Light, Medium, etc.) will stack to 20
* Enchanting Shards (Small Brilliant, etc.) will stack to 20
* Enchanting Dusts (Strange, Illusion, etc.) will stack to 20
* Rogue Poisons (Instant, Crippling, etc.) will stack to 20
* Rogue Poison Reagents (Essence of Pain, Deathweed, etc.) will stack to 20
* Flash Powder will stack to 20

Thank god on the rogue poisons stack.. :D

The Twelve Prophets, my former guild, ended up disbanding and reforming as Predestined (Horde Mannoroth, www.predestinedguild.com) due to extreme GM shadiness. We went through the typical issues you would expect of a guild that had to reform and rebuild, but a few days ago we dropped C'thun to become the third US Horde guild to kill him, and the 4th Horde guild world-wide. I'm not sure what number we are in terms of other PvP servers.

Anyhow, fancy screenshot: (click it for the full-sized one)
http://www.predestinedguild.com/imag...dead_small.jpg

Yeah, now if they will just freaking unnerf stealth.....

Wow, Sere, I had no idea that so much shit happened with 12p. Glad you guys managed to reform and settle back down to take down the hentai monster. Congrats!

Did you quit playing for a while? I remember looking at the 12p website a ways back and not seeing your name on it. Was that during the transition time or did you actually take a break?

Congrats on taking him down Sere, that's pretty damn impressive - especially for Horde :)

I quit 12p in January because of the actions of the GM (awarding himself loot despite all of us officers voting against him, among other things) and helped form Predestined a couple of months later when the rest of the guild left. The GM (Taelon) then stole and sold the 12p guildbank, tried repeatedly to "hack" our site, and tried stirring up months-old drama to cause us to break up (while simultaneously reinforcing every Predestined member's decision to leave 12p.)

So, dropping C'thun was really the ultimate "fuck you" to Taelon -- showing how much stronger we are without him lying, cheating, and stealing from his undeserved throne.

..not that I'm bitter! ;)

Heh, it's always nice to show it back in the face of someone that screws you and succeed in spite of their stupid shit. I couldn't read the thread you linked to without creating an account and logging in, but your "Bounty Hunt" post on the main Predestined board gave a pretty good idea of the crap that went on.

Seems that the guild bank ninja by a guildmaster after a break up is all too common. When one of my old guilds broke up all the officers went to another guild and one of those officers, amazingly, had a thunderfury the next day. Gosh I'm so glad the guild bank bought that for him.

Bitterness aside, you're probably better off without him, since he's going to have to start over and you're killing C'thun, and who can argue with that?

Hey people, I have a question about this game that has me totally addicted:
Is there any place that has a <b>simple list</b> of the Specialty professions?
I'm at that stage with my Warrior blacksmith where I choose Armorsmith or Weaponsmith (same with my Rogue Leatherworker – Elemental or Tribal). I just want to know which Specialty offers what.
I've looked through forums and other sites, I guess I'm not looking in the right areas. Any thoughts?

I've tried
http://thottbot.com/
http://wow.allakhazam.com/
http://www.worldofwar.net/


Mfillmore 43 Dwarf Paladin goblin engineering.
Roolikat 38 NE Rogue Leatherwork
Dagney 45 Human Warrior Blacksmith
Staghelm

I use www.wowwiki.com for looking at different professions, they've got a pretty good guide to them.

Yesterday we dropped C'thun again and got a Dark Edge of Insanity this time! :D Generally we have much worse luck on weapon drops, so I was surprised that we saw it so quickly -- perhaps they changed the drop rate?

If you poked at leaked links of it before, you'll notice that they've nerfed it since prior to AQ gates being opened -- the speed was 3.8 and has been changed to 3.5. The disorient effect doesn't always last for 3 seconds, but it DOES NOT BREAK ON DAMAGE which is insane.

Clicky to see loot shot.
http://www.predestinedguild.com/imag...edge_small.jpg

Perfect! Thanks Pragma, and I also curse you since my 'productivity' at work today is now going to be in the toilet :thumbsup:

Not a problem at all. It's a pretty addictive site in general, just because it has a ton of information about all kinds of stuff. :)

Holy god, grats.

The Dark Edge of Insanity also used to be 395 max damage. It was nerfed because if left the same, the warrior class would be nerfed again.

Lots of stuff happening right now, wow live action movie announced, expan alliance race announced, 1.11 (mage/shaman patch)
It's times like this, I miss playing :(

The WoW live action movie will suck as bad or wose than the Dungeons & Dragons movie.

Thank god the Draenei don't have a stealth-related racial ability -- that's all I have to say about that.

The Shaman talent review is awful. They buff their PvP shit and completely ignore the most underpowered aspect -- totems in PvE raids when compared to Paladin buffs.

The Mage talent review started off really poorly but the recent round of changes has given me hope. Pretty much the most important thing we needed was some form of threat reduction and we are getting that in each tree now, which is really nice.

The movie will be really exciting for the first hour, but the next 15 hours will mostly be leveling.

I've been a 60 mage for ~60 months and I've raided MC and BWL.

Patch for mages SUCKS...ASS...

Lowest dps of caster classes
lowest health
lowest mana
most gear dependancy of caster classes
least util spells (no fear, no single root, no controllable stuns, our CC regens enemies to full health, and our only root is on a 25 sec cool down and it's AE)
our damage tree 31 pt talent (fire: combustion) requires extended period of fire spell nukage for it to be fully utulized, yet fire tree gives a mage almost NO survival mechanisms...

etc...

I rerolled a UD priest on a different server.

I got a 60 human mage Fire/Arcane and I out DPS everyone all the time :D

This is lol-tastic

http://lorelol.ytmnsfw.com/

http://thottbot.com http://wow.allakhazam.com
Here you can find almost everything about WOW.
Rats in silverpine forest drop 1 gold and 57 silver and in eastern plaguelands there are silver putrids near the chapel, they drop from 50 silver to 1,5 gold.
See this Doomulus Prime 200 dmg 22stamina 22 strength.
As I remember in feralas there is a quest for 58-60 lvl horde and there you can get staff like Illusionary Rod which is for all levels.
In onyxia's lair you can get a book which summons a strong skeleton.

I want to think the above is a troll. But I can't quite tell. Suffice to say, I'm confused as to why it exists.

Me too...I think most everyone in this thread already knows about Thottbot...

Yeah plus he joined this month and that was his only post.

Ever have an UNBELIEVABLY FULFILLING duel?

I just killed the most geared, often-considered best, druid on the server in a duel.

Not just beat, KILLED. And he's the same faction as me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/kwsnpwns/vad.gif

I am so incredibly pleased right now. I don't know how it happened, but it did. And it feels good :D

It's just a duel... heh. I know I don't put that much importance into duels other than learning how to adjust to different styles.

It wasn't the beating him that was so pleasing, it was the fact that he somehow DIED. This guy likes to run his mouth and I don't think I could come up with a better outcome to shut him up.

go onto the test server. it's a damn circus. no moderators. it's basically "trash talk server 24/7"

I like to go on there and beat people who are talking trash and then make fun of them and then log.

I was dueling a friend of mine outside of Ironforge once, and killed him out there. If you remember the little decorative fire pits around there, well, he's a warrior and I was kiting him w/ Serpent Sting and Concussive, and Serpent ticked, he dropped to 1HP and lost the duel, and less than a heartbeat later, the fire ticket (he was chasing me and didn't notice it) and dropped dead on the spot.

Took me a while to stop laughing over that one - and I also spent the next week following him around in raids setting basic campfires. :)

C'thun #4 last night FINALLY yielded one of these:

An Alliance guild on our server has three C'thun kills under their belt and they've gotten three of these. :( Nerf Alliance imo.

I fucking hate my guild sometimes. We kill Razorgore, Vael, and Broodlord all on 2 attempts or less (first time ever), try Firemaw a few times and call it a night. Then we formulate a new Firemaw strategy that will help us out a lot, and on the second BWL night we have 3 priests, 3 paladins, and 2 druids log on. BWL cancelled with 45 people wanting to go because we don't have enough healers. UGHHHHHHH

Hrm, I just wish I could get into a raiding guild. The only epics I have I got from a pug MC and tier .5. Seems like none of them are inviting warriors, even if I'm willing to respec to protection.

My server is so inundated with raiding guilds and groups.. it's ridiculous. Killing Ragnaros is *yawn* and even the guilds that everyone said were trash are now killing Nefarian. It's hard NOT to find yourself in an MC group.