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Old 05-14-2004, 07:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lots of updates from E3!

Updated screenshots: http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/608/608237/imgs_1.html

"Hands On" review: http://ps2.ign.com/articles/513/513572p1.html

There's actually a readable health meter this time! Man, thank god, because it was near impossible to gauge your health in 2 and 3 with the whole "flickering image of you where you're currently standing".

Items will be accessed via a method similar to that found in Metal Gear Solid.. active and on the same screen. No more flipping between menu screens and whatnot.

All due out in Sept!! Thank god... the wait from SH2 to SH3 was way too long.
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Old 05-14-2004, 09:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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My brother and I made an interesting observation. Doesn't the girl look a little like Heather from SH3? Only less drugged out looking, darker hair(from the blood?), and a broken arm?

Maybe we're just seeing things.
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Old 05-14-2004, 10:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, looks like a cross between her and Maria from SH2.
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Old 05-14-2004, 11:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I watched the old SH4 trailer a few months ago and almost shit my pants. It looks scary as hell! I've only played the first one, but I watched Redjake and Blitzkrieg beat SH2 and SH3. I'm sure 4 will be a quality game if it's anything like the others in the series.

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Old 05-14-2004, 11:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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They're all quality games, they all (for me at least) have had really, really disappointing endings.
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Old 05-14-2004, 11:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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First and Second SH were just amazing games.

The third was a disapointment overall for me, I hope they try somthing different for this one.

The second was probably my fav so far.
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Old 05-19-2004, 06:54 AM   #7 (permalink)
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thank you for those links Stompy!

I can't wait to try it - especially with those new features!
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Old 05-19-2004, 07:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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why are they so grainy? I know all of them had slight grains, but some of the screenshots look horrible. I hope they touch it up some.
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Old 05-19-2004, 07:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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why are they so grainy? I know all of them had slight grains, but some of the screenshots look horrible. I hope they touch it up some.
You can always disable that "grainy" effect in the games options.....
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Old 05-19-2004, 07:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I've read from a few sources that the "grainy" look is actually a part of the game and is used as an effect to make the game that much more eerie.

Kinda looks awkward, but I think it'll turn out good

If I'm not mistaken, the same guys who directed/produced 2 are making 4, so I expect this one to be the most terrifying yet.
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Old 05-19-2004, 09:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I saw the trailer a while ago, and the only thing I have to say is : "I am scared, hold me...."
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Old 05-19-2004, 09:43 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I saw the trailer a while ago, and the only thing I have to say is : "I am scared, hold me...."
EXACTLY. That preview was FUCKED UP on so many levels....

The "grainy" thing you guys are talking about is added for effect. And believe me, it adds EFFECT. It gives the game a grungy atmosphere as if you are really in a deserted town. I loved it. You could turn it off in SH2 and SH3. I left it on because it was so much better that way.
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Old 05-19-2004, 10:30 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Personally I though SH3 was the best of the lot, I know I'm in the minority but seriously, how could the blood room not fuck you up?

Whoever designs the creatures in this series must have been to hell and back, my god the things you see in here are incredibly terrifying... oh, and the sound... fuck...
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Old 05-20-2004, 09:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
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oh, and the sound... fuck...
The sound is easily the scariest part of the Silent Hill games. I remember the end-boss in SH1 playing the music that sounded like it came from Hell, literally. The blood room in SH3 didn't help my nerves any though, and I wasn't even playing.

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Old 05-20-2004, 11:26 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Ah God. The static radio. Bad memories man, bad memories. Almost as bad as the groaning zombies in RH.
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Old 05-20-2004, 01:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You guys are making me want to replay them over again! I dont have time for that kind of dedication :P
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Old 05-20-2004, 01:25 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Personally I though SH3 was the best of the lot, I know I'm in the minority but seriously, how could the blood room not fuck you up?
Oh jesus. I remember sitting there with Blitz and Lasereth just staring at the screen like "man what the fuck! what the fuck! man what the fuck is that! oh God what the fuck man!"

fucked me up quite nicely.....
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Old 05-20-2004, 02:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Haha, good to see I wasn't the only one turned into a quivering bitch when walking into that room

Check out the new trailer for SH4:
http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault...nthill4_5.html

Not really a spoiler but read this after you watch the clip...
Spoiler: Those guys hanging from the ceiling slapping each other made me almost go to sleep with the lights on
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Old 05-20-2004, 03:21 PM   #19 (permalink)
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that is some fucked up shit Mr. Deflok. holy crap. I quit halfway through the video.
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Old 05-20-2004, 03:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
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that is some fucked up shit Mr. Deflok. holy crap. I quit halfway through the video.
Watch it all, damnit! (you kids and your fast connections)
It's going to take me 6hrs. to download it and I'll be damned if I quit watching it halfway through.
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Old 05-20-2004, 08:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Hm, thats just one thing I never understood about these games.

I found them as a fun experience, completly different from the rest. But I never saw the fear and scaryness, the creatures and whatnot in the game are to "fake" so to say, to produce any fear for me. I think if they were to start having more human-like creatures, doing some very sick things, then it may strike a nerve, otherwise, its just another game.
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Old 05-20-2004, 09:50 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Is it just me or did that sphere thingy towards the end look like the engine from Event Horizon in Mr.Deflock's clip ?
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Old 05-20-2004, 10:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I think if they were to start having more human-like creatures, doing some very sick things, then it may strike a nerve, otherwise, its just another game.
Check out the linked clip above!

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Is it just me or did that sphere thingy towards the end look like the engine from Event Horizon in Mr.Deflock's clip ?
Yeah it does! But then again it's a design that's been used frequently before, btw, Event Horizon rocks!
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Old 05-20-2004, 10:32 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Those roving wheelchairs are creepy.
I also liked the two-headed handwalker.

This thing has unbelievable graphics.
I felt like I was watching a movie.

Thanks for the link, Mr.D.
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Old 05-21-2004, 10:40 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Check out the linked clip above!
I did, thats just it.

I dont see anything remotly scary.

Maybe I'm to brainwashed with this stuff allready to no longer be affected.
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Old 05-21-2004, 04:11 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I did, thats just it.

I dont see anything remotly scary.

Maybe I'm to brainwashed with this stuff allready to no longer be affected.

I've found that the people who aren't frightened or at least disturbed by these games are not taking them seriously. I mean no offense, but if you can't get IN to the game, then it's certainly not scary. Like one of my best friends. He thinks the games are FUNNY. I was like do you even know what's going on? He skips past the cut scenes and videos and everything. He doesn't read the text. He plays with the lights on and plays music on his computer in the background. Of course it's not scary

If you delve yourself into the world of Silent Hill, and play with the lights off, and read everything the game gives you, and explore everything without just running through the different areas, you will be scared. I promise. If you aren't scared by it, you aren't taking it seriously
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Old 05-21-2004, 07:07 PM   #27 (permalink)
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:/

I would have to disagree with you on that, while it may be true on other people, I do take the game seriously, I do play with the lights off, and I spend countless wasted time just exploring forever. I'm a RPG freak, exploring and reading the details is one of the most fun traits.

Surely there must be other people in this world that WHILE taking the games seriously dont find it remotly scary. I've been scared more in games that are not even ment to be scary. Having random shit popout while in a stealth mission, things that get so quiet you wouldnt ever expect that next. This game essentially prepares you for the scares and thrills before you even see them.

I guess thats what it comes down to for what I need, random scares out of the cold blue in a game that isnt ment for it. That or spiders... fucking things.. must die.
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Old 05-21-2004, 09:20 PM   #28 (permalink)
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One more point I'd like to add to RedJake's post is that you need the volume up, just like Lasereth mentioned before, the sound is the scariest part of the game. It really helps if you've got a Surround Sound setup, hearing the clanging metal from behind you with the footsteps from upstair above you is terrifying.

And Destrox, to each his own, I love the fear that envelopes me in a SH game, but as you said when shit pops up out of nowhere, I'm never phased by it, kinda become a cliche to me, in the same sort of way SH can't be scary to you. Kinda.
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:08 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I dont see anything remotly scary.

neither did I.... but it did make me curious as hell! I can't wait to play SH4!
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:14 AM   #30 (permalink)
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that is some fucked up shit Mr. Deflok. holy crap. I quit halfway through the video.
Please watch all of it Redjake! It's really great! The whole thing is fucked up - you don't get any clues/ideas about what's going on but it's still great!
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:15 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Surely there must be other people in this world that WHILE taking the games seriously dont find it remotly scary.
sure?! my brother is one of them. he's not fun watching scary movies with at all!
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Old 05-28-2004, 07:18 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Damn, that trailer is in-tense.

I started with SH3 and quit about 1/2 way through because of course I got fed up with the camera angle issues. Walking into rooms with the camera staring down at my scalp from high up and to the left while being attacked was not cool. The atmosphere was tremendous though, very very immersive and scary. Looks like Ill be giving SH4 a try though based on the trailer.
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:24 PM   #33 (permalink)
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HOLE LEE SHAT!!!!

Just grabbed this out of a used bargain bin at my local EB, to hell with the election results, I cast my vote I am gonna go play this shit NOW!!!
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Old 11-02-2004, 06:49 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Dude it rocks, I'm up to the last area but haven't played it in a while, will have to finish it this weekend.

The game is truly terrifying but feels a lot different from the previous titles in the series.
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:25 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Dude... the game scares the bejesus outta me, i decided to stop playing it, totally freaky ass game, yea i don't need that shit, i gotta bad heart... or something

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