Anybody remember "Gouroanga" from GTA 1? I hope they bring that back in a future GTA game.

I wonder if being fat will change the script, like if you and your posse have some druglord pinned down in a gunfight does he yell "Fuck you you fat bastard!" or "Fuck you you little shit!"

Are you serious about multiplayer in this game?
That is awesome!

I cant wait to hit cops on their bikes...
And for me to ride the bicycles around :D

You will have to eat from time to time and if ur to fat u'll have to go to the gym

I've heard that at the very least, people will make fun of you if you get fat. I'm not sure how much it changes the actual scripts though.

At least they put thought into the weight issue. Your character's strength, speed, and agility is strongly tied to the character's physique. I'd be disappointed if it was just a gimmick.

Aight guys, I know we've hit on the topic of food for this game several times now, but I'd like to go ahead and post a "definitive" answer to the "fatass issue." From IGN:
That's pretty much the full article, but for those wanting to read it on IGN, well, here's you link.

New Screenshots
 

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Man, what a great, innovative game.

Mass jizzage will ensue come October.

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Hey, Hey, Hey I'm the star of a game that is going to be awesome.

Gamespot has a 6 page article about a lot of the things that will be featured in San Andreas, the game looks dope as hell. This is one game I'm really looking forward to.

I like that double uzi action above. I heard they are changing the targeting system also. Hopefully there is some sort of auto aim still associated with it.

Is that man smoking a blunt?

That's awesome.

I was reading the Gamespot forums, and even though everybody that posts there are complete fucking retards, they got me worried with their talk about older versions of the PS2 not being able to play the dual-layered disk that GTA:SA is supposed to come on.

Can anybody shed light on this subject?

Hmm, I'm not really sure about the different "versions" of PS2, and their capabilities (regarding dual layer discs), but if that were the case, I'm sure Rockstar would consider releasing a non-dual layer disc version, like a 2-disc version. Would be sensible to me.

yea, that duel layered thing scares me too. If anyone knows anything about it let me know please. Also, this game looks amazing and I cant wait for it to come out.

A buttload of the info here. I just became doubly excited.

http://fivestarstuff.com/list.htm

SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT!
If you haven't beaten Vice City, please do not read this post.




1) DIRECT DEPOSIT. You shouldn't have to go collect your money from your assets. They should direct deposit into your account.

2) NO BOSSES. People like Lance Vance Dance and Sonny Forrelli took too long to kill. They're human just like everyone else in the game that is not you. They should go down w/ one shotgun hit.

3) MORE EFFICIENT WEAPONS. The range of sniper rifles should be extended. Also, smg's like uzi's and mp5's shouldn't take a million shots to kill one person. They are still bullets afterall, rapid fire or no rapid fire.

4) MORE EFFICIENT BREAKS. The breaks should be available to make turning easier while speeding, not just to slow the car down to a stop.

5) PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS. In Vice City, you start off as an ex con just out of prison. Pedestrians, should treat you like any average Joe Shmoe. But when you take over an entire city, they should move out of your way when you're walking down the street, or maybe even have someone take your picture.

6) PROPERTY ENHANCEMENTS. All home-properties should not only have a save point and maybe a garage, but should also be accessible from the inside. A new wardrobe for each estate would be nice, too, as not all mob bosses walk around in hawaiian shirts. You should also be able to take hookers with you into your estates. :)

7) GANG ENHANCEMENTS. Gangs should have more of a purpose than just to walk around and shoot at your gang. You should be able to ally with or go to war with different gangs, and it should show in the gameplay. Rival gangs should try to kill you when they see you, while allied gangs should help you whenever you're being chased by other gangs or the police. Also, the police should be considered a gang, and if you're allied with them (would be a special alliance that you get w/in a storyline), they shouldn't bug you if you commit a few crimes here and there.

8) POLICE ENHANCEMENTS. Just because you have a star shouldn't mean all police know where you are and that you are a criminal. Stars should be officer-specific, and once you kill that officer, the star should go away, unless of course another officer sees you and radios it in, which should add on to your wanted level instead. It sucks knowing you're going to either die or get arrested just because you accidentally ran over a cop.

9) ABOLISH TIME LIMITS. Time limits just make the game more difficult than it should be.

10) CHEAT ENHANCEMENTS. A few cheats that were noticeably missing are infinite health and infinite ammo. Sure, cheats take away from the chutzpah of the game, but some people just like to run around and cause havoc without worrying about dying or whatnot.

I'm a huge fan of the good GTA games (GTA & GTA2), GTA3 was pretty good, albeit extremely glitchy and buggy, GTA:VC was terrible in terms of glitches, Rockstar just rushed the hell out of it. However, if Rockstar actually takes the time to put a little effort and polish on this game, it might actually be good. If so, I'll wait for the inevitable (and far superior) Xbox version.

I enjoy stopping by the San Andreas forums at Gamespot. Not for new information, but to see what new topics those complete retards have come up with. I found these forum titles within 5 pages. I didn't edit any of them.

"(On Topic) Do you think Tommy Vercetti is dead when San Andreas takes place?"

"When does an exsisting trailer will be held?"

"Where there any ''Sublime'' songs in the early 90's?"

"Body piercings. Thats waht we need"

"I bet you 5 dollar that sunglasses will be in the game."

"Do you think that we will learn about how CJ got his skills?"

"how many gin n juice versions are there gonan b?!?!?"

"2 Pac Or Not 2 Pac, That Is The Question!"

"DO u really think they will DROP osmething at the end just becuase its to much"

"Oh man, I can't wait to throw someone off the golden gate."

"Is cars more important in this game?? Eveyone read!!!!"

"For all of you who want lightsabers in the game ( I HAVE PROOF)"

Actually, I am really looking forward to that!

I love this pic:

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It will make for some really cool jumps

The dual-layered shit is just that: shit.

All PS2s can read dual layered DVDs, so there is no reason why they could not read dual layered DVDs formatted as PS2 game discs.

Less linear is always a good thing. Interaction with environment, as well.

Check out the first look footage of GTA:SA here!!!:
http://www.iconzarena.com//downloaditem.aspx?did=217

Really psyched about this one. If only they could get licensing for real car names. For some reason that really gets me.

I've heard that from a lot of other people too. I don't get why it matters.

Yeah, but Sony's exclusive means that rockstar will have about 6 months to port the game to PC making it infinitely better than it will be on PS. Look at GTA Vice City: Sucked balls on PS2 (IMO) but played so well on PC. Crisper textures, further draw distance, smoother framerate... and (trumpets and fanfare).... MOUSELOOK! The one thing that will make any PC game player infinitely more accurate than any console inclined gamers

As for the comment about GTA not being original.... I think you need to lie down, you obviously are not feeling well.

It still boggles the mind in regards to why there won't be an Xbox version.
It makes no sense, and sony must have dished out major dollars to keep it exclusive.
But it sucks for the gamer because so much more could have been accomplished with the xbox. :(

I don't think I can wait 6 month lol, Get it on PS2 the first day then get the pc version. :cool:

I heard this a little while ago, about the time of the GTA III realese. That sony paid for 3 GTAs to be exclusive. Haha im not a credible source. But its something i heard. I totally agree though, this game needs X-Box. or game cube ;)

I wished they had some sort of collectors box i could put all 3 of the GTAs in.

i heard a while ago too that Rockstar was contracted to make 7 GTAs (whether that includes GTA1, 2, and london as well as vice city being considered 4) and i think it was a deal with sony. but then again i'm not a source either...i have to find my GTA:VC game pro. :thumbsup:

Rockstar simply bought the license to 7 GTA games. That doesn't mean they're making them...some people think they bought the licenses to trick people into thinking San Andreas wasn't the true GTA game being made. Seems like a waste of money, so I actually think they bought the licenses for future GTA games.

-Lasereth

Opps, sorry about the giant orange text. lol, didn't notice the enlarged text till now. :lol:

They have a new trailer and some new info at their website . The new trailer kicks some ass.

The problem with licensed cars is the the car makers don't want to see their precious cars damaged in games. So if GTA did license real cars it means that basically all cars would have to be invincible. Which sucks, but hey, if you get it for the computer someone will probably make a mod to change the names from the ones in GTA to the actual name the cars were modeled after. (Didn't something like that get released for GTA:3?)

[Guess]Some companys might not want to be asossiated with a game such as that. All the flack that these games get, could reflect badly on a car company. Endorsing such a product, could backfire on a car company.[/guess]

I was under the impression that GTA: San Andreas would be coming out on XBox, if a little later than the PS2 release?

They released 3 and Vice City on the XBox, so why not San Andreas?

I want to get this game, but I'd also prefer to play it on XBox.. But has it been confirmed that the game won't be coming to XBox, ever?

Thanks.

They actually confirm it for PS2 only at every GTA launch. Then when the Sony/Rockstar contract ends, Rockstar sells it to whoever wants to publish it on XBox. I remember all of the people going apeshit about Vice City not being on anything but PS2...then 3-6 months later it was already out on different platforms. I'd almost guarantee that it'll be out on XBox sooner or later.

-Lasereth

Nice, good info. Thanks!

I would really like to see money in the game a issue like there needs to be more to do with it then buy guns,hookers,and food

All consumer PlayStation2s are able to read and play dual-layered DVDs. However, if you have an older PS2 that is beginning to go downhill, the ability to read discs is one of the first things that goes (because the laser head assembly attracts a lot of dust). If you're having some disc read errors or anything like that, you should try going in there with some compressed air, and see if that makes it better at all.

There are already a number of PS2 games that are released on dual-layer DVDs (usually ones with lots of content).

Bingle

OOH MY GOSH i just read that you can mod your car in the game thats sweet!!

i can't wait to put some rims and other stuff on a car and drive it around

This game is BAD ASS.

1. The music is great. Totally early 90's stuff. Danzig, Faith No More, Alice in Chains, Dr. Dre, Young MC, etc..

2. Huge as HELL, but like all GTAs, the areas are limited when you first start playing, so I haven't yet seen the other areas of the game.

3. Stats are kinda cool and adds an RPG feel. Periodically you'll get stats.. like if you ride around in a bike and go in some pools, your bike riding stat will go up. If you run around, your "Fat meter" changes.

4. Physics engine is more realistic in terms of driving. Plays much better than the past games.

5. They say "fuck" a lot. Not really a big deal, but I'm glad they haven't held back in terms of dialogue. I know in GTA and VC the most you got was "shit" or "asshole". Makes it more controversial ;)

As for dual layer, it's not. The game fits on one normal DVD-R (unless this one I have cut out videos or compressed stuff, but it doesn't appear so).

I only played for like an hour, but from what I saw, it's nice. I mean, it's nothing revolutionary, but it's definitely a change for the better. I haven't seen any of the more "detailed" features, like car modding or anything yet... but I'm assuming all that stuff comes wayyyyyyy later on.

This game is the reason why I'm getting a PS2.

Can't. Fucking. Wait.

Part of the humour of the GTA series is the subtle satire the car names are. I can't remember specifics, but there was this SVU that was named after its gas hungry ways :)

I hope they change the physics engine (or stats) so that lamp-posts don't fall over when you touch them and cars don't bounce when you walk into them.

Apart from that, I kinda like the GTA series.

Got bored (read as stuck) in GTA2 and am now playing GTA:VC.

Fun.


Mr Mephisto

Actually, I like those "features." When you're just running around, wreaking havoc, sometimes it's fun to be able to push a parked car out into the middle of the street. Also, after playing Driv3r, I really REALLY missed the falling lamp posts.

wow. I just checked the official website and some fansites, and I have to say this one looks amazing. I am just disappointed thta I have to wait the extra 3 days here in Europe to get it!!!

40.5%
hurry up!

Now.. even the slightest mention of warez use to be forbidden here, sure does slip lately....

No...I'm sure he's talking about...the trailer! Yeah, that's it!

Uh huh.... and the talk about the DVD-R was burning the trailer right? :P

:lol:

"40.5%" is hardly anything to fuss about. I do think they mean no posting cracks, etc... when they forbid warez.

I'm sure discussing modchips, usenet, DVD-Rs, etc.. is fine (why wouldn't it be? all are legal). I'd be more concerned about the posts where people admit to smoking weed or something, if anything (even that.. I wouldn't worry about).

I think posting "Here's the URL to the crack of blah" or "The cdkey is xxx-xxxx" is different from saying "I'm downloading it now". As if saying the action itself is forbidden fruit, hehe.

No different from people talking about mp3s in music, I guess. No one's posting direct links, just stating how to get them here and there (p2p, usenet, etc).

Can't wait. Must get Game Now. Anyways that clock countdown for GTA on the Gamestop websites pretty cool. As of right now 2 days 14 hours 28 minutes 52 seconds left. Now what to do for that amount of time.

It should use a dual-layer DVD, from everything I've heard. It's possible that they managed to compress it, it's also possible that the person at the plant or wherever leaked it just grabbed the first layer's master DVD. That would be interesting, if it were the case.

Bingle

This gamel looks mad.

Was supposed to come out here on the 22nd but now they say the 29th. :|
I like the fact when you travel from the city to city you have to use the freeways and pass through small country towns. The ability to swim as well is gonna be cool to.

games like True Crime and Driver3 are don't compare to the size and scope of GTA.

I can't wait!

I'm pretty damned sure it's dual-layer. Prove me wrong, or prove me right.

Well, I don't have a dual layer drive, the game fit on a standard DVD-R, and it has all the music, movies, etc.. so I dunno.

Unless the copy I have mysteriously stops at 50% through, it's the real deal.

Everyone else on usenet is reporting the same - it's the real thing. *shrug*

Dont worry everyone, its NOT DUAL LAYER. It fits on one dvd-r. And yes I do have it so and I could answer a few questions like Samuel L Jackson is one of voices in the game.

I can't wait for this game to come out for PC... Seems that every game always comes out ~2 months after console release.

I REALLY like the fact you can hop fences now.. and CLIMB things.

I'm tryin to get my character to be a HUGE blob of a guy, but it's takin forever.. I've been eating the full meals at the pizza/burger shops (the unhealthy fatty ones), but so far, nothing changed.

You do an awful lot of running, and after a while, regardless of what you eat, it seems your fat meter goes DOWN.

I dunno, I'll have to play with the system a bit I guess. If anyone gets any info/detail on it, post it!

Not only can you climb things but you can actually SWIM.......it's about damn time. I was so sick of drowning when my car flew into the water.

So is this game out now or what? I have it pre-ordered (or my little brother does, actually), and I have the receipt, but heard that it wouldn't be out until later this month. Maybe I should give EB a call...

It's out Tuesday. Everyone who has it downloaded from the net.

:) nice. Very nice. If I had a DVD burner I'd be sending out a few PM's, but alas I do not. Oh well; I guess I can hold out until my li'l bro lets me borrow it.

I can't say why I know, but it is a dual-layer DVD. Yet another reason not to download an "early release" version. :-)

Bingle

According to IGN, it is dual-layer. I'm sure I've read it at Gamespot, too.

Makes me wonder what's missing out of the pirated GTA.

Some cool voice actors again.

Carl Johnson - Young Maylay
Sweet Johnson - Faizon Love
Ryder - MC Eiht
Cesar - Clifton Collins Jr
Kendl Johnson - Yo Yo
Zero - David Cross
OG Loc - Jonathan Anderson
Frank Tenpenny - Samuel L. Jackson
Maddog - Ice T
The Truth - Peter Fonda
Wu Zi Mu - James Yaegashi
Ran Fali (Farlie) - Hunter Platin
Mike Torreno - James Wood
Maccer - Shaun Ryder
Eddie Pulaski - Chris Penn
Officer Hernandez - Armando Riesco
Jizzy B - Charlie Murphy
T-Bone Mendez - Kid Frost
Ken Rosenberg - William Fichtner

To play burned PS2 games on a DVD-R, dont you need a MOD chip or something?

Indeed ya do.

Er, I don't remember, but don't you have to have a specific CD drive in your PS2 to run dual-layer games? If that's the case, how do I check, and replace it if I have to?

Was going to wait until the PC release to get it, but now that I see they've worked Ken Rosenberg in...

No. I believe that was a rumor at one point. But it'll work on all models.

Gamespot has their review up. They have it a 9.6. Pimp that shit here - http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/gta4/review.html.

Thanks for the reassurance, Jeff. I am going to pick up my copy from EB in 10 minutes. Hooray!

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas just received a score of 9.9 from IGN.com:

I'm picking it up in an hour. :)

-Lasereth

oh my Jesus.........

Wow! 9.9 from IGN.

School works keeping me busy though. And since I know if I start playing this it'll absolutely DESTROY my productivity, I'm going to try to refrain from playing it until Christmas break. Methinks it'll pose a larger challange than quitting smoking, but I'll do my best.

I felt Vice City was much better than GTA3. I'm expecting just as big of an improvement for this installment.

Just got back from picking it up, this game is great and a huge improvement over Vice City. The fact that there is no load time between areas is so good you wonder how you just sat and waited for it to load.

Right now I'm rocking the afro with beard combo and starting to get a little gut by drinking lots of soda and eating nothing but pizza, no salad.

I went to EBGames to pick this up for my li'l bro, and it was a travesty. All of the workers had bandanas on, and the clerk had a toy gun and a 40 oz. of "Malt Liquor" (probably apple juice) that he was drinking out of. They even had these black guys come who just stood around trying to look all tough (can anybody say, "racist"?). I just handed 'em my receipt and got the heck outta there before someone took my picture in there.

Oh yeah; the clerks all had "Life" and "Death" 'tatooed' on their knuckles.

Are you serious? There's no way that was approved by Head Office. What city was that in?

On another note... I work there and I haven't had a change to play it. Our new legislature in Canada makes it illegal for us to sell M games to minors, so I was wondering if someone could tell me how much worst this is compared to Vice City? Its my job to keep parents informed on what their kids purchase, and I'd like to be able to tell them an honest answer. What I'm getting at is, can a few of you please tell me all the questionable material in the game, preferrably in a list?

Example:

Prostitution
Violence (Obvious)
Drive-by shootings
Language... etc

Thanks in advance!

(If you're wondering why I just don't play it myself, its because I don't have a PS2 and my store has no extra copies to pop in the interactives :p)

I went to go pick it up and the pre-order line streched out the door and around the corner. I was to meet my friends in half an hour twenty minutes away, so I just said screw it and went there. I'll pick it up in the morning. It's not like I was going to play it this late anyw...all right, I'm lying. If I had it I'd be playing it. :)

Well, I picked up my copy about six hours ago, and played it for about five hours. So far, it seems really cool. I actually preferred GTA III to Vice City, but so far, the game seems to have improved on Vice City in some key areas. I'm not sure yet how I'm going to feel about the whole 'stat' thing. I don't really want to have to stop to find something to eat every few hours or spend a whole lot of time training up my muscle stat. So far, it seems like that aspect is going to be okay, but I'm sort of reserving judgment until I've played a bit more. The frustrating thing about Vice City were those missions/side quests that were just a little too difficult -- they seemed to depend too much on luck rather than on skill, and it remains to be seen if San Andreas will fall into the same trap. In any case, it's a great game so far.

Sorry, bro, but I'm not one to rat out a group of workers who're just trying to make their job a little bit more fun unless they're being especially obnoxious or unsafe. With no disrespect to you, but sorry, I plead the 5th when it comes to which branch they were in.

As far as how much "worse" (better) it is than Vice City, here is what I've seen after about an hour of gameplay:
- Lots and LOTS of F-Bombs.
- When jacking a car, you actually sock your victim in the face before stealing the car.
- Crooked cops.
- CJ jumps a lot higher than Tommy Vercetti (White Men Can't Jump?).
- Gangs will harass you before physically confronting you.
- Graffiti.
- Lots and lots of racial stereotypes.

Yeah, it has really, really bad language. :) Not for kids if they didn't grow up around F-Bombs.

-Lasereth

I'm going to try and rent it later today. Gamespot's review is very postitive --9.6/10 I think--but I'm kinda wary of the character building aspects like fitness and diet. (The Sims: Bustin' Caps, anyone?)

It seems like it'll be another good game from Rockstar, but I still crave serious multiplayer. Gamespot mentioned that there are brief co-op parts, but some split-screen co-op similar to Halo's system would be very, very cool.

Wow, the Gamestop I went to didn't go that far, but they did have GTA bandanas, hats, and t-shirts.

Haha, awesome!

Just curious, how is that racist? It fits the game. The main character is black his buds hang out, wear bandanas and some walk around w/ 40s.

No different than releasing Vice City and, say, dressing up like the Mafia! Just some fun to fit the theme of the game!

AMAZING.... I'm a bit disappointed by the graphics (used to Vice City on the Xbox) but other than that its amazing. Awesome soundtrack, great atmosphere, and overall more realistic than the previous GTA games. So far the most fun thing has been spraypainting people in the face - they fall over and grab at their head, caughing. The climbing is another nice addition, though I haven't had much chance to play with it yet.

Well, it took two hours to hit my first bug. I attempted to get off a motorcycle just as a gangbanger was about to pull me off, and I got stuck in the motorcycle, unable to target enemies or move and was gunned down. Still, I'm enjoying it, although Lance's betrayal in VC has me looking everywhere for potential backstabbers. I feel very poor. The whole "getting respect instead of money" thing is cool, but I want to buy things.
By the way, this is the first GTA where I copped out and bought the strat guide up front. The thing is almost 300 pages. Ill.

i didn't knwo there was 2 player segments niiiiiice

Actually, sorry, I was wrong. The game is single-layer.

Bingle

Speaking of bugs, I found one earlier too. I was playing pool at the bar and the cue had pushed the ball into the pocket while still touching it, and the game froze up. Other than that, fairly bug free. I just hope there isn't a "purple 9's" style bug in it.

Also, the training/special attack button is really nice - melee combat is actually more than random button mashing now.

I am pleased that they took elements of other popular games and incorporated them; I'm currently trying to get past a stealth mission, and I had to do a couple of DDR challenges, which were sort of annoying. However, there is a mission early on in which you ride on the back of a motorcycle shooting pursuers: awesome. A mission I expect to play again and again (thanks to the fact that I left a save right before it :)).

Just picked it up from eb games. I'm waiting to play it after the Bosox-cards game is over. I loved GTAIII but didn't really get into the VC story much and couldn't finish it hopefully the SA magic will be closer to gta III for me

I just bought it for 30$ from a kid because his mom wouldn't let him play it. I was literally walking out the door at work to go buy it when he brought it in :)

I've been playing and hour or two and It's great. I don't get the bad press it's getting. Considering the theme of the game it's expected. I've listened to my fair share of gangster rap and a few movies and and it's no worse. Vice City and GTA3 both stereotyped cultures, and this stereotype just happens to curse more :) I figured Critics would have gotten over the GTA series by now.

There's one thing that I hate though, training requires button mashing and my carpal tunnel is NOT liking it. I'm trying to figure out how to make this macro on this controller work.

Sure it fits the game, but the game itself is racist! lol I dunno...I just wonder what I would say if I was a black guy, and someone came up to me and said, "Hey, can you go hang out at this videogame store for awhile? We're trying to promote this new game about stealing cars, murder, and gangs, and we need a bunch of black guys like you to make them feel like they're inside the game."
Think about it.