Rudel73

Hey i'm in the market for a new MMORPG and need a few suggestions!

I'm just about 90% Sure that i'm going to go buy FFXI, it's got amazing reviews from another forum, but bad reviews from this one so i don't really know...

If there are any other new/newer ones out there please suggest them to me!

But, no UO, Everquest, You know...the old stuff :P

Plan9Senior

If you are a seasoned MMORPGer, then absolutely nothing on the market currently will keep you content. You are best off waiting for WoW or EQ2 to come out. If you are new to the genre, then maybe FFXI might be a good starting point.

Rudel73

Well i guess you could say i'm new to MMORPG's, but not Massively Multiplayer games, i've played a few like WW2Online that aren't as much RPG's...

I don't know, it sounds really cool though!

Moonduck

I don't think there is anything worthwhile on the market right now. I'd return to EQ before I bought anything newer, or even bought anything proposed. I've played Horizons in Beta and wasn't terribly impressed. SWG leaves me flat. Nothing I've seen in WoW or EQ2 really grab me, and I doubt my machine would live through any attempt to play those.

In short, wait a while and see if anything better comes out.

seretogis

There is nothing currently on the market that is worth your money.

What I suggest doing, is going to www.gamespot.com -- click "PC" at the top, then click "Beta Center" in the left nav bar. Then, sign up for half a dozen MMORPG betas and wait for the acceptance emails. This way you can keep busy and not have to spend any cash on crappy games.

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Rudel73

So you really don't think FFXI or SWG is any good? I'm not really a huge gamer i just need a game to play man! I don't mind if it's hard or like everquest or what not

Moonduck

SWG = dullsville

FFXI I honestly haven't seen anything interesting from. What I'm seeing, meh. Then again, I'm not a big FF fan in the first place, so make your own conclusions.

Beltruckus

FFXI is one of the greatest games ever, i'm having a complete ball on it, there is actually a storyline. THe job system is great, THE best mmorpg i've played (i've played eq, daoc, shadowbane, swg, Anarchy online)


edit: SWG sucks huge ass, nothing to do in it at high end.

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Mr.Deflok

Really? What's it 'about'?

Xenomorph

I'd look for a guild or clan that plays on the same wavelength that you do, and go to whatever game it operates in.

I still play Ultima Online, not because it has any value as a game, but because the people who most closely fit my playstyle are in the clan I'm in. The Shadowclan Orcs juggle roleplay with PvP, and pretty much ignore PvE, which I find dull and pointless. UO remains the only reliable game out on the market that you don't have to dedicate your life and firstborn son to that has options other than mindless PvE.

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IckUber

Agreed, ive been having the time of my life, and so have the rest of the 10 friends i play with. not only do i play with them, but i have met many people in game. The lauch was so sucessfull, that they just opend 3 new servers. now would be a good time to join.

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LNCPapa

I'm lovin' FFXI - biggest problem with it is the Windows Key and getting used to the interface.

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tokaok

to hold you over till WoW i reccommend Dark age of camelot.
http://www.darkageofcamelot.com/

not only is it fun but it has a great structure, gameplay, and variety.

it also has a very friendly and engagin community both in game and outside.

camelotvault.ign.com <--- has news/info on it plus you can also find the community forums there if you want some more info.

Plan9Senior

DAOC is the biggest piece of crap, you should be embarrased admitting you pay monthly for it

seretogis

I've heard nothing but hate for the controls, combat system, and xp loss in FFXI -- those are reason enough to keep me from paying $50 and $15 a month just for a frustrating xp grind.

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Ooja Nikaboloko

1.controls - well, if your a FF fan controls arent a problem...

2.combat - same as above , just same as FF games on ps1/ps2

3. xp loss?? what do ya want .. a game with no consequences..... go play an offline game then, MMORPGS arent for you obviously.


From what Ive seen too many people are judging this without having first experienced the game.

But 30 servers, 3 more opening soon and THOUSANDS of people playing cant be wrong.

Skifter2

From the current batch of worthwhile MMORPG's i would definately recommend DAOC too..

Like most other MMORPGs it is a nasty timerobber, and levelling can be an extremely boring activity, but it DOES have some worthwhile PvP that makes it accebtable.

Some of my pet peeves in MMORPGs are Level based systems, crowdcontrol in the form of mezz, roots, stuns etc. I hate these things with a passion...all are in DAOC and i stillplay it almost daily

Stay clear of SWG...way way clear....that game is BAD and extremely boring to boot.

MuadDib

I played SWG for the first 3 months it was up and running. It was horrible. The game is still pretty much in development, they adjust skills and such every couple of days, their are no vehicles yet, and early exploits made it so their are a ton of maxed out super powerful players and anyone who didn't have the time to exploit early on is now forced to get hosed by these guy for the next year while they get to that same level. I quit in disgust, though I would consider going back in a year maybe if they fix most of the issues and make it a whole game.
I played UO for years and every now and then reactivate my account and play. Its just the best for me because I love PvP and no other MMORPG even comes close to offering the same level of PvP and RP that UO does. Unfortunately, it they gimped it something like 2 or 3 years ago and I can't play for more than a month or so before I get fed up because I long for the glory days. But hey its $10 and I get more entertainment in a month of it then I did in 3 of SWG at $15/month.

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seretogis

Some things do not scale very well to a mmorpg, and the typical FF control/combat system seems to me like it would be one of htem (two of them, actually).

I played EQ for three years, and various other mmorpgs for short periods of time -- I don't mind consequences for dying, I just don't want to have to spend an hour killing the same shit over and over and over again just because my DSL went *blip* or something spawned on top of me.

Millions of people voted for George W. Bush and Al Gore. That doesn't make them candidates for President that should be taken seriously.

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Ooja Nikaboloko

If u dont like dying, take more time, plan things out. The xp loss is no where near as bad as people say..

Comparing the popularity of a video game against that of a politician just doesnt cut it im afraid.

People vote for more reasons than liking the person.

however the main thing a game needs to be successful is player enjoyment.

Lasereth

You're bashing DAoC but suggesting EQ2? EQ has just as bad of a reputation of DAoC. Both are addicting but suffer in different areas. MMORPGs are about the people you play with -- there's not a perfect one out there and there never will be. You simply find an online community you enjoy and stick with it.

It doesn't matter what seems. What matters is what actually is. I'm tired of people saying that various games (especially MMORPGs) suck without even playing them or reading a review worth a crap.


You can't expect game designers to make an online game that covers for a crappy ISP. If something spawned on top of you, then take up a sword and attempt to kick it's ass -- if you can't, you'll die. That's not a fault of any game...the enemies have to get there somehow.



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IckUber

Try playing the fucking game instead of "what you hear".

The controlls. I have a playstation 2 controller that i play with my PS2 to USB converter, and it makes the game play like ANY final fantasy, including fully changeable controlls. I will admit that the key board is a gay way to play, because you need to controll the camera at the same time, but with ps2's 2 analog joysticks, the problem dissapears.


Xp loss- yes, ive punched my desk 100 times over, when i die, i loose xp. I hate it, but if the game wasnt hard, then there would be no reason to play it, nothing to learn from. I make better choices, party with the right people, cast a diffrent spell or whatever, after learning from my mistakes. You have to be punished when you die, although, if you can find a nice japanese player to Raise you, you can loose less XP, and even less with Raise II.

Price-its 12.99, not 15, dont scare people away by lieing about the price of the game.

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Ogre840

I play SWG and i love it. Now Mounts are there (ridable animals) and player cities. soon there will be vehicles, and yes there are jedis.

the fact that you can change you class in the middle of the game is great, just in case you do one you dont like, you dont have to stay with it!

SWG rules!

Beltruckus

DAOC is full of lvl bots and buff bots, I tried it again (I tried it at launch) and there are hardly any people to lvl with from 1-20 especially because of the autolvling feature they decided to put in. Also they constantly nerf good classes to make them worse, instead of fixing problems with other classes they nerf the shit out of good classes that are working properly.

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Beltruckus

FFXI you can change job anytime you want and there is actually stuff to do at higher lvls instead of killing the same creature throughout your lvling.

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cradeg

hmm .. i am addicted to EQ , but i guess its a bit late to start with EQ soo i would suggest wait for EQ 2

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a_divine_martyr

How dare you guys forget about Lineage 2.
Open beta supposed to happen soon, with a release date around April/May.

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Rudel73

I bought FFXI and i'm having a blast, thanks for the Suggestions!

If any of you are on Shiva server give me a shout my player name is "Hannelore"