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kel · 08-06-2003, 12:02 PM

OpenGL and DX9 are two sides of the same coin... They are just software interfaces for the exact same hardware. OpenGL is slightly behind the curve right now because all the latest advanced features like T&L are not support by the official OpenGL 1.4 implementation. They are supported as extensions which can be written by any tom dick and harry for any hardware feature. These extensions have variable behavior on different hardware even though they are supposed to be predictable... DX9 is more consistent... They are both supposed to do the same thing, but OpenGL sometimes makes it a pain in the ass... so much so that you end up just not using certain techniques.

But the bottomline is it don't mean jack in the actual game... you can't tell unless you know what to look for, and good artist and engine design beats the hell out of whatever hardware/software implementation you choose. Metal Gear Solid is the perfect example of this.

As for the half-life bug, I believe that the problem lies with the cards design and not the surrounding software haven't looked closely though.

[EDIT]
Oh, and thanks to Nvidia (they kick so much arse... you gamers have no idea what a godsend that company is to programmers...) you can program directly to the GPU in their language CG. This just helps with certain effects, you still need to write the whole gfx engine to handle the objects, vertices etc. seperately...

http://developer.nvidia.com/attach/3716
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Mr.Deflok · 09-20-2003, 11:07 AM

Amazon.com are saying 1st of March 2004, grr.

JcL · 09-20-2003, 01:58 PM

Thats funny because I've been hearing that Hl2 is going to miss its mark and show up in March as well...

battlemouth · 09-23-2003, 03:18 PM

ill be waiting around for the new doom, it looks gorgeous

CyN1caL · 09-23-2003, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by emopwr
i want my DNF WHERE IS DUKE?!?1??!

Its strange that doom3 had a tech demo leaked WAY before anyone ever saw anything from hl2. oh well i hope d3 is worth the wait.

DNF will come in 2004!

Alongside TF2!!

Mr.Deflok · 09-23-2003, 10:09 PM

DNF comes out first quarter 2013.

juanvaldes · 09-24-2003, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
DNF comes out first quarter 2013.

Your far to optimistic.

John Falcon · 09-25-2003, 01:05 AM

I'm not looking forward to Doom3 or Half Life 2.

I'm looking forward to future games made from their engines, however. (Jedi Knight 3? Rainbow Six 4? etc.)

Mr.Deflok · 09-25-2003, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by John Falcon
I'm not looking forward to Doom3 or Half Life 2.

I'm looking forward to future games made from their engines, however. (Jedi Knight 3? Rainbow Six 4? etc.)

Jedi Knight 3 is already out, it's called Jedi Academy.

John Falcon · 09-25-2003, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
Jedi Knight 3 is already out, it's called Jedi Academy.

I think of that as a $50.00 expansion disk.

Mr.Deflok · 09-25-2003, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by John Falcon
I think of that as a $50.00 expansion disk.

A damn good one though.

CyN1caL · 09-25-2003, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by John Falcon
I think of that as a $50.00 expansion disk.

That doesn't require the original to play.

John Falcon · 09-25-2003, 06:35 PM

It's just that it's not a leap like Jedi Knight 1 to 2 was.

Mr.Deflok · 09-25-2003, 10:43 PM

EDIT: DOUBLE FRIGGIN POST (mods please delete is that's ok?)

Mr.Deflok · 09-25-2003, 10:44 PM

What'd'you expect? The game only came out 1 1/2 years after the last. There'll definately be better JK games headed our way though, just not any time soon.

p.s. I LOVE Jedi Academy, fucking love it

08-06-2003, 12:02 PM	#41 (permalink)
kel WARNING: FLAMMABLE Location: Ask Acetylene	OpenGL and DX9 are two sides of the same coin... They are just software interfaces for the exact same hardware. OpenGL is slightly behind the curve right now because all the latest advanced features like T&L are not support by the official OpenGL 1.4 implementation. They are supported as extensions which can be written by any tom dick and harry for any hardware feature. These extensions have variable behavior on different hardware even though they are supposed to be predictable... DX9 is more consistent... They are both supposed to do the same thing, but OpenGL sometimes makes it a pain in the ass... so much so that you end up just not using certain techniques. But the bottomline is it don't mean jack in the actual game... you can't tell unless you know what to look for, and good artist and engine design beats the hell out of whatever hardware/software implementation you choose. Metal Gear Solid is the perfect example of this. As for the half-life bug, I believe that the problem lies with the cards design and not the surrounding software haven't looked closely though. [EDIT] Oh, and thanks to Nvidia (they kick so much arse... you gamers have no idea what a godsend that company is to programmers...) you can program directly to the GPU in their language CG. This just helps with certain effects, you still need to write the whole gfx engine to handle the objects, vertices etc. seperately... http://developer.nvidia.com/attach/3716 [/EDIT] __________________ "It better be funny" Last edited by kel; 08-06-2003 at 01:07 PM..

09-20-2003, 01:58 PM	#43 (permalink)
JcL Crazy Location: Simi Valley, CA	Thats funny because I've been hearing that Hl2 is going to miss its mark and show up in March as well... __________________ "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth then lies." - Nietzsche

09-23-2003, 03:18 PM	#44 (permalink)
battlemouth Robot Lovin' Location: Boston	ill be waiting around for the new doom, it looks gorgeous __________________ like a bullet through a flock of doves

09-20-2003, 11:07 AM	#42 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Amazon.com are saying 1st of March 2004, grr.

09-23-2003, 10:09 PM	#46 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	DNF comes out first quarter 2013.

09-25-2003, 01:05 AM	#48 (permalink)
John Falcon Psycho Location: New York, CA	I'm not looking forward to Doom3 or Half Life 2. I'm looking forward to future games made from their engines, however. (Jedi Knight 3? Rainbow Six 4? etc.)

09-25-2003, 06:35 PM	#53 (permalink)
John Falcon Psycho Location: New York, CA	It's just that it's not a leap like Jedi Knight 1 to 2 was.

09-25-2003, 10:43 PM	#54 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	EDIT: DOUBLE FRIGGIN POST (mods please delete is that's ok?)

09-25-2003, 10:44 PM	#55 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	What'd'you expect? The game only came out 1 1/2 years after the last. There'll definately be better JK games headed our way though, just not any time soon. p.s. I LOVE Jedi Academy, fucking love it