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89transam · 03-03-2004, 05:58 PM

I just beat the game on the dark side and im contemplating doing it again but going light this time. (mabye in a month or so).

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew if knight speed stacked with other feats? (such as flurry). That way, you could do like 9 hits or somehting for every attack....

Lasereth · 03-03-2004, 06:03 PM

I highly, highly suggest you play it again on the light side. The developers said that 50% of the game's quests are avaiable to the light side, 30% to both, and 20% to the dark side. Basically, the game is much much larger if you play as the light side.

I can't answer your question because I'm not a D&D fanatic. I can't remember what the Knight Speed ability did...does it simply increase your attack rate?

-Lasereth

gmoot · 03-03-2004, 08:07 PM

I'm not sure, honestly, but I don't think so. Master Speed says it adds +2 extra attacks per round. I'm not sure about Flurry, but if I remember right it only adds one extra attack. They might stack, but if they do, then the decreased to-hit from Flurry would make such a combo useful for only lower-difficulty enemies.

I never used flurry on my light side character. I did abuse the heck out of Master Speed though. With a level 3 Master Jump feat and level 3 Master Speed, if there was an enemy in my jumping range, he was dead before he knew what hit him. I don't remember exactly, but the Jump feat gives you some nice bonuses, and with dual sabers+Master Speed, that's 4 hits with very very good (almost guaranteed) chance of hitting along with increased damage potential. I was regularly doing anywhere from 80-100 damage to an enemy in one round often before they even noticed me. Plus, after your 4 power hits, Master Speed will still give you 4 attacks for the next few rounds, so all but the toughest enemies in the game should fall before they get more than a couple hits on you.

I lost count of how many times I would spot a group of enemies, Speed/Jump them, and have almost all of them slaughtered before my teammates even got in attack range.

Evil Milkman · 03-03-2004, 08:29 PM

The "Light Side" is fun to role-play. It takes longer, but it's really a blast. I played KOTOR practically every day during Christmas Break. Come to think of it, that's pretty much all I did. All day. It's really a blur.

Lasereth · 03-03-2004, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by gmoot
I lost count of how many times I would spot a group of enemies, Speed/Jump them, and have almost all of them slaughtered before my teammates even got in attack range.

One of my favorite moves in KOTOR was leading the group with a side-character, and then watching the main character do his own thing in combat. If in a big area, my main character would jump like 1/4 of a mile towards the enemies back and forth slaughtering them in one round before I could even get the secondary characters there.

It's really damn cool to see your main character from a different perspective...that's why I used Bastila, Jolee, or Juhani in my group. The Jedi were always ready to kick ass and take names.

Not saying that Carth and Canderous didn't take names with their huge ass blasters, though!

-Lasereth

Destrox · 03-03-2004, 08:59 PM

When I played the darkside I often foudn my self playing the anti-meatbag robot more then my main character.

As for your question, I dont know, but I'd love to get a answer my self. I'm willing to give KOTOR another go seeing as spring break starts tomarrow and I have no money to go anywhere but here. :/

Scipio · 03-04-2004, 09:43 AM

Canderous was my best npc. Get that uber-blaster from that space station planet, with all the upgrades. Then get master rapid shot. Then get him the best armor you can buy. He's insane.

NeverBorn · 03-04-2004, 10:55 AM

Screw the light side! You get no cool powers!!

nanofever · 03-04-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by 89transam
I just beat the game on the dark side and im contemplating doing it again but going light this time. (mabye in a month or so).

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew if knight speed stacked with other feats? (such as flurry). That way, you could do like 9 hits or somehting for every attack....

Flurry, Speed and Duel Wielding all stack giving a character five attacks per round. The downside is the game is WAY too easy if you use that combo in-conjunction with Valor, Strenght+ gaunlets and two nice light sabers. My main has something like +8 to hit when he has full buffs on.

Xenomorph · 03-04-2004, 06:38 PM

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Screw the light side! You get no cool powers!!

The light side powers require a bit more tactical prowess than just "FWOOM FWOOM lifedrain, dead" but when used correctly are at least as effective.

I played my lightside as the melee-heavy, force-light class (Guardian, I think?). I made him a self-healing, force absorbing, rapid-combat machine. Basically used the force powers as a sort of deflector shield and continual medpack while going heavy on combat stats and abilities (from the base Soldier class).

And, was was previously mentioned, there's a lot more content to the light side. Dark side play is basically to screw the quest-givers out of 50 credits or whatever and take off, where the light side actually does the quests.

bltzkriegmcanon · 03-05-2004, 06:29 AM

Yeah, playing as light side makes the game way more interesting and challenging. Having to complete a boatlode of quests for characters can be hard and time-consuming, but it turns out to be quite fun.

Apokx · 03-05-2004, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by NeverBorn
Screw the light side! You get no cool powers!!

Take knight speed,the stat bonuses,resistance to force powers..

My light side > dark side :/

japhyryder · 03-09-2004, 07:24 AM

I just finished it on the light, is everyone thinking I should do it again on the dark, how long (HR's) did it take to finish the dark side?

flamingdog · 03-09-2004, 10:55 AM

i always planned to do it as both. only got part way through dark side before i had to reformat... haven't tried again yet.

i liked my character's portrait as the dark side guy... evil bastard.

lol @ Lasereth - 'take names'. you witty, witty man.

ironchefkorea · 03-09-2004, 02:14 PM

I just finished it on the Light side with a Consular. I wanted a Sentinel, but there's a glitch - when you're at the Jedi academy, the computer tells you the proper roles of Consular and Sentinel, but when you talk to the Master Jedi to choose your crystal, the roles are switched! I was confused, but it all turned out alright in the end. Malak was so much easier than I expected.

I just started a Dark side character...should be interesting, but it's so...arduous, going back and sitting through all the dialogue again, re-doing all the quests. Maybe I should take a few months off before I do this Dark character...

flamingdog · 03-09-2004, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by ironchefkorea
I just started a Dark side character...should be interesting, but it's so...arduous, going back and sitting through all the dialogue again, re-doing all the quests.

That's exactly how i feel. I'd not got that far in I don't think, but I'd notched up a fair few hours. Seems like it would be a huge chore to go back while the whole thing is still fresh in my mind.

charlesesl · 03-13-2004, 12:44 AM

Blasters just suck. Using them to fight jedis is like playing racquetball.

Arc101 · 03-27-2004, 02:42 PM

Yep just completed playing on the light side. Great game, but I'll have to leave it a few months before paying again. Not sure I could stand going through all the dialogue again. I'll try dark side so hopefully you will not have to spend so much time doing all the different quests. Great game, and I will buy the next one they produce.

Crack · 04-13-2004, 11:39 AM

This game REALLY needs a Multiplayer option!

That would kick ass!

Hardcore..
um..dude.

hellkite · 04-14-2004, 08:06 PM

god i loved this game

spent more than 1 week non-stop playing it through first as a light side character

started playing dark side but comp crashed and lost my save game

a kickarse build is the scoundrel/guardian 7/13 route

you want a lvl 7 scoundrel so you get all the sneak attacks, then guardian's force jump

sneak attack is applied everytime you force jump

or if their stunned, so get some force power like statis field or socket your sabers with 'bondar' i think it was.. the stun crystal and go nuts

03-03-2004, 05:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
89transam Psycho Location: Central California	KOTOR Question I just beat the game on the dark side and im contemplating doing it again but going light this time. (mabye in a month or so). Anyways, I was wondering if anyone knew if knight speed stacked with other feats? (such as flurry). That way, you could do like 9 hits or somehting for every attack.... __________________ I'd rather be rich than stupid. Last edited by 89transam; 03-03-2004 at 09:19 PM..

03-03-2004, 06:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I highly, highly suggest you play it again on the light side. The developers said that 50% of the game's quests are avaiable to the light side, 30% to both, and 20% to the dark side. Basically, the game is much much larger if you play as the light side. I can't answer your question because I'm not a D&D fanatic. I can't remember what the Knight Speed ability did...does it simply increase your attack rate? -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

03-03-2004, 08:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
gmoot Upright Location: Ohio	Re: KOTOR Question I'm not sure, honestly, but I don't think so. Master Speed says it adds +2 extra attacks per round. I'm not sure about Flurry, but if I remember right it only adds one extra attack. They might stack, but if they do, then the decreased to-hit from Flurry would make such a combo useful for only lower-difficulty enemies. I never used flurry on my light side character. I did abuse the heck out of Master Speed though. With a level 3 Master Jump feat and level 3 Master Speed, if there was an enemy in my jumping range, he was dead before he knew what hit him. I don't remember exactly, but the Jump feat gives you some nice bonuses, and with dual sabers+Master Speed, that's 4 hits with very very good (almost guaranteed) chance of hitting along with increased damage potential. I was regularly doing anywhere from 80-100 damage to an enemy in one round often before they even noticed me. Plus, after your 4 power hits, Master Speed will still give you 4 attacks for the next few rounds, so all but the toughest enemies in the game should fall before they get more than a couple hits on you. I lost count of how many times I would spot a group of enemies, Speed/Jump them, and have almost all of them slaughtered before my teammates even got in attack range.

03-03-2004, 08:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Destrox Metal and Rock 4 Life Location: Phoenix	When I played the darkside I often foudn my self playing the anti-meatbag robot more then my main character. As for your question, I dont know, but I'd love to get a answer my self. I'm willing to give KOTOR another go seeing as spring break starts tomarrow and I have no money to go anywhere but here. :/ __________________ You bore me.... next.

03-04-2004, 09:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
Scipio Mencken Location: College	Canderous was my best npc. Get that uber-blaster from that space station planet, with all the upgrades. Then get master rapid shot. Then get him the best armor you can buy. He's insane. __________________ "Erections lasting more than 4 hours, though rare, require immediate medical attention."

03-03-2004, 08:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Evil Milkman Addict Location: Illinois	The "Light Side" is fun to role-play. It takes longer, but it's really a blast. I played KOTOR practically every day during Christmas Break. Come to think of it, that's pretty much all I did. All day. It's really a blur.

03-04-2004, 10:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
NeverBorn I'm a pepper bitch..	Screw the light side! You get no cool powers!!

03-05-2004, 06:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
bltzkriegmcanon Holy Knight of The Alliance Location: Stormwind, The Eastern Kingdoms, Azeroth	Yeah, playing as light side makes the game way more interesting and challenging. Having to complete a boatlode of quests for characters can be hard and time-consuming, but it turns out to be quite fun. __________________ What do you say to one last showdown? - Ocelot, Metal Gear Solid 3 The password is "Who are the Patriots?" and "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo." "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo." Gotcha. - The Colonel and Snake, Metal Gear Solid 3

03-09-2004, 07:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
japhyryder no one special Location: Charlotte, NC	I just finished it on the light, is everyone thinking I should do it again on the dark, how long (HR's) did it take to finish the dark side? __________________ It's only entertainment, someone's sick idea of a joke.

03-09-2004, 10:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
flamingdog Still fighting it.	i always planned to do it as both. only got part way through dark side before i had to reformat... haven't tried again yet. i liked my character's portrait as the dark side guy... evil bastard. lol @ Lasereth - 'take names'. you witty, witty man.

03-09-2004, 02:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
ironchefkorea Insane	I just finished it on the Light side with a Consular. I wanted a Sentinel, but there's a glitch - when you're at the Jedi academy, the computer tells you the proper roles of Consular and Sentinel, but when you talk to the Master Jedi to choose your crystal, the roles are switched! I was confused, but it all turned out alright in the end. Malak was so much easier than I expected. I just started a Dark side character...should be interesting, but it's so...arduous, going back and sitting through all the dialogue again, re-doing all the quests. Maybe I should take a few months off before I do this Dark character... __________________ If it wasn't for microsoft, if we lived in the middle east? Y'all wouldn't have no hands....

03-13-2004, 12:44 AM	#17 (permalink)
charlesesl Psycho	Blasters just suck. Using them to fight jedis is like playing racquetball. __________________ It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. Dr. Viktor E. Frankl

03-27-2004, 02:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
Arc101 Addict Location: Nottingham, England	Yep just completed playing on the light side. Great game, but I'll have to leave it a few months before paying again. Not sure I could stand going through all the dialogue again. I'll try dark side so hopefully you will not have to spend so much time doing all the different quests. Great game, and I will buy the next one they produce.

04-13-2004, 11:39 AM	#19 (permalink)
Crack Misanthropic Location: Ohio! yay!	This game REALLY needs a Multiplayer option! That would kick ass! Hardcore.. um..dude. __________________ Crack, you and I are long overdue for a vicious bout of mansex. ~Halx

04-14-2004, 08:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
hellkite Upright	god i loved this game spent more than 1 week non-stop playing it through first as a light side character started playing dark side but comp crashed and lost my save game a kickarse build is the scoundrel/guardian 7/13 route you want a lvl 7 scoundrel so you get all the sneak attacks, then guardian's force jump sneak attack is applied everytime you force jump or if their stunned, so get some force power like statis field or socket your sabers with 'bondar' i think it was.. the stun crystal and go nuts