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Shauk 02-09-2010 10:46 AM

[PC] BFBC2 Players
 


Comes out in about a month.

:D

who's getting it for sure? (or already pre-ordered.)

Lasereth 02-09-2010 04:13 PM

Bought it today on Slickdeals.net: The best coupons, deals and bargains to save you money! for $20 brand new.

Shauk 02-09-2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth (Post 2756951)



you slut, lol.

Nikilidstrom 02-10-2010 09:50 AM

I wish people would stand still for me like that when I'm sniping. Anywho, pre-ordered and ready to go. My nick is WhattaHoot if anyone cares, hope to see you guys in game.

Shauk 02-25-2010 09:37 AM

PC players get a special treat.



preorders and new box buyers get a treat as well


people who buy it used can opt to buy these maps as DLC though.

Gabbyness 02-25-2010 06:18 PM

Dude, I wasn't going to check these vids as the BF/CoD games kinda lost me a couple years ago, but holy craptastic, that first clip was totally bananas.

Gonna have to get me some!

Reese 02-26-2010 01:52 AM

For those of you that play the single player campaign, How do you feel BC2 compares to MW2's single player?

Shauk 02-26-2010 12:29 PM

I'm really looking forward to trying out the conquest maps, they haven't showed any of that in the demo's that I've had a part in and it makes me wonder if it has the classic feel of the battlefield mechanics that they pioneered?

BF1942 was an innovative title from that conquest mechanic alone, it was funny to watch it get ripped off and adapted by star wars:battlefront games. haha. Oh well, March 2nd needs to hurry the eff up.

Lasereth 02-26-2010 03:04 PM

Even though my preorder was canceled I'll still probably get it.

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That dev walkthrough was great.

Shauk 02-26-2010 03:16 PM

what happened to your preorder?

Lasereth 02-26-2010 07:18 PM

It was canceled? Shit on slickdeals.net gets canceled all the time because half the crap on there are fluke prices.

Shauk 02-27-2010 04:07 AM

AH, bummer :(

well tiding myself over with cool montage videos.



Shauk 02-28-2010 04:57 PM

I demand more interest in this game. Dont be a punk and settle for your MW2 games :p


Lasereth 02-28-2010 05:24 PM

Man that first montage was totally badass.

Radio Monk33 02-28-2010 09:38 PM

Heh..skillful edits. I like how he shoots at helicopters that are going down so it looks like it's been shot down by small arms fire. :)

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Oh and I've pre-ordered...I'm sad to lose my 11 levels earned in the beta. And then I'm away on vacation for half of March..grrr.

remy1492 03-01-2010 12:47 AM

I got a lot of unlocks in BETA and rank , dang. Gotta start all over :) oh well, its fun blowing stuff up with C4 and RPG dudes from far away.

Gabbyness 03-01-2010 06:07 AM

That was a very impressive "tutorial." This game looks really excellent.

BurntToast 03-01-2010 02:57 PM

My only hope is that the rest of the maps hold up as well as Port Valdez did.

Radio Monk33 03-02-2010 08:11 AM

Anyone have any luck with getting it off steam? It's supposed to be out today..I was hoping for a midnight release last night. :(

Lasereth 03-02-2010 10:31 AM

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._1741981_n.jpg

CAN'T WAIT TILL 5 PM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shauk 03-02-2010 11:35 AM

1st off.

ADD ME in game "Shauk" :)

2nd off, it's bittersweet, my retail copy of Win7 wont be here til thursday, so i'm suffering from the pre-release shut down every 2 hours ;_;

3rd, holy shit I love all the maps so far.

4th, I've yet to figure out how to adjust the FOV like they said i'd be able to because right now, everyone is hella tunnel visioned, I walked up and took out an entire squad with my knife and pistol as recon because I just happened to be sitting like 45 degrees to the left of them as they all walked right past me.

Sometimes I wish this game had UT sound effects "m-m-m-m-ega killllll"

Shauk 03-02-2010 05:04 PM

Well so far I've done a few multiplayer rounds, again, still enjoying the maps, they'll take me a while to learn the ins and outs and how to approach them with each class.

I had a weird issue with it crashing to desktop without an error of any kind whenever it would finish loading a map.

I tried messing around with some settings.

if you go in to my documents/bfbc2 it stores some config files there.

settings.in has a line that says
directx=auto
I changed auto to 9 even though my card supports 10 because apparently people were reporting really good frame rates.

You can also edit the FoV in there.

that so with that, I went ahead and loaded it up and it stopped crashing.

I went ahead and filled out a post about how I think it's the dx detection that's crashing the game for some people so.. hopefully if anyone here has that problem, that'll solve it until they fix it.

I'm only up to the "crack in the sky" mission right now. I plan on beating it before I get too entrenched in the multiplayer :)

Radio Monk33 03-02-2010 09:10 PM

The multiplayer is terribly buggy right now. Hella hard to get into a game..a few times got the punkbuster kick (wtf). Othertimes it looks like major connection issues trying to get a game. Looks like its fairly widespread. maybe too popular right now.

remy1492 03-02-2010 09:24 PM

yeah in 2 hrs I got to play one complete map.

The single player WW2 thing threw me for one, was just like call of duty WAW.

Lasereth 03-03-2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radio Monk33 (Post 2763575)
The multiplayer is terribly buggy right now. Hella hard to get into a game..a few times got the punkbuster kick (wtf). Othertimes it looks like major connection issues trying to get a game. Looks like its fairly widespread. maybe too popular right now.

Sounds like a typical BF game. :( When will DICE get their shit together with coding?

Shauk 03-03-2010 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radio Monk33 (Post 2763575)
The multiplayer is terribly buggy right now. Hella hard to get into a game..a few times got the punkbuster kick (wtf). Othertimes it looks like major connection issues trying to get a game. Looks like its fairly widespread. maybe too popular right now.

I dunno if you got it for steam but I decided to skip it this time because I had all sorts of punkbuster kick issues with CoD/punkbuster due to it not getting along with steam for some reason.

that said, seems to work fine for me now. Browser still needs some tuning, still takes a long time to get a list of servers or join a game, but eventually does so.

Lasereth 03-03-2010 09:06 AM

Shauk I added you as a friend last night

I tried to get into 10 games and got into 2 of them. :( All I wanted to do in my short amount of time last night was fly a helicopter and I never found one. rage

Shauk 03-03-2010 05:04 PM

Gotcha. Got a couple adds from people I don't know who didn't identify themselves too so. *shrug*

remy1492 03-03-2010 07:43 PM

we allz need friends :)

Lasereth 03-04-2010 06:17 AM

Bleh couldn't get into any servers last night either.

Shauk 03-04-2010 09:46 AM

Yeah i did a "compare" to you and say you had like 2 kills 1 death. It was pretty hard for me to get in to a game, took me half an hour or so to populate the server list, apply filters and then spam join on the server I wanted to play on till there was an opening.

EA's server was really intermittent with connectivity. It wouldn't work for several minutes at a time but as soon as it got me in, it was all good to go.

I am starting to think that anyone intending to level a recon class should just play defense with the machine gun option on conquest maps, since snipers only really feel useful in rush mode to me.

I tried being a "sniper" mode recon guy for the 1st 3 levels and just got raped repeatedly because they're so vulnerable to machine gun fire from pretty much any distance >.>


Once I unlocked the 12x scope though, it was night and day in my survivability.


they just released a new server side update to help with connectivity issues, though I didn't really notice anything being faster/better on my end

Jinn 03-04-2010 10:07 AM

I hate to rub salt in wounds, but the 360 matchmaking is absolutely impeccable. I played a good 8 hours yesterday and the day before, and never once got kicked from a server or had to wait more than 30 seconds to connect.

To console you, (heh, KUN-SOUL, not CON-SUL)the graphics on the 360 look very BF1943ish compared to the PC.

Game is awesome though, that we can all agree on.

I love playing medic.. something about having a machine gun and health kits fits my personality exactly.. run like a maniac, machine gun, run like a maniac, machine gun, sprint past a tank to heal some peeps, revive some peeps, repeat.

Shauk 03-04-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinn (Post 2764012)
I hate to rub salt in wounds, but the 360 matchmaking is absolutely impeccable. I played a good 8 hours yesterday and the day before, and never once got kicked from a server or had to wait more than 30 seconds to connect.

To console you, (heh, KUN-SOUL, not CON-SUL)the graphics on the 360 look very BF1943ish compared to the PC.

Game is awesome though, that we can all agree on.

I love playing medic.. something about having a machine gun and health kits fits my personality exactly.. run like a maniac, machine gun, run like a maniac, machine gun, sprint past a tank to heal some peeps, revive some peeps, repeat.

haha, well, to be fair the consoles style matchmaking service in the PC version works fine, it's just the server browser that causes all the delay for me. It's functional, just not 100% so.

This is one of those games that if you ever decided to sell your console version, you can still opt to pick up a pc version and come play with the rest of us at least :)

Jinn 03-04-2010 12:13 PM

I was a diehard PC gamer, especially shooters, and honed my skill with the likes of Doom, Quake, and ultimately Counterstrike (including cal competition) but I've had to move to consoles as of late simply because I find comfort knowing that the playing field is more even in terms of rendering, and that what I see on my screen with regards to foliage is what they see. Likewise, hacks for console FPS' are historically more difficult to create and maintain, in large part because of the closed nature of the console hardware.

Entirely single player games I still purchase for the PC, like Mass Effect 2, because mouse and keyboard is far superior as a control system. But in competitive games I much prefer the relative equality of consoles, knowing that TV size aside, we're much more even than someone playing on a brand new computer and someone playing on a two year old computer.

Back on topic, I absolutely love the 'armor' perks. It's nice to have a little bit of control beyond standard armor, to say.. hey, I want a bigger sensor range, or I want larger shells, or I want faster repair, or I want more health, etc. I wish they were able to do something about C4'ing a tank as it spawns (before someone gets in it) as it largely deters people from climbing in, for fear that someone has already mined it.

Shauk 03-05-2010 02:52 PM

"btw: PC currently has more people playing and are in game servers than
both the consoles."

/flex
PC Gamers win this round. muhahaha.

Updates to the servers now and soon - Electronic Arts UK Community

Radio Monk33 03-05-2010 10:58 PM

I hope PC gamers flock to BF2 in droves after Infinity Ward/MW2's big fuck you to PC gaming. I'm having more success today..but still a bit glitchy for joining servers through the browser and seeing friends online. But hey, at least I'm not getting kicked anymore.

Shauk 03-06-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radio Monk33 (Post 2764438)
I hope PC gamers flock to BF2 in droves after Infinity Ward/MW2's big fuck you to PC gaming. I'm having more success today..but still a bit glitchy for joining servers through the browser and seeing friends online. But hey, at least I'm not getting kicked anymore.


TBH I'm not even sure who to blame for that fiasco anymore.

Activision bought IW for a mere 5mil, and IW turned around and made them BILLIONS, then on top of that, Activision fired the heads of IW mere weeks before bonuses were due, I guess they got pissed off at the gorilla treatment from Activision so they filed a pretty nasty lawsuit against them. The document basically accuses Activision of forcing them to come out with the sequel when they didn't even have plans to make it, having overly aggressive development schedule demands, and being responsible for the underdeveloped feel of MW2 and all the bugs and balancing issues that MW2 suffers from as a result.

Should be an interesting case.

Lasereth 03-07-2010 11:04 AM

Can't get in a server today either. Says EA server is down or something. Ugh

Radio Monk33 03-07-2010 01:28 PM

Yeah, expect more outages..they are rolling out additional server updates all the time from what I've read.

Makes me sad..im 300 points away from level 5. :(

Shauk 03-07-2010 05:29 PM

Battlefield Blog

400% higher load than they've had beyond all the previous battlefields so they def got caught with conservative estimates. Now we're paying the price of early adoption :\

It's pretty bad but once I get in to a server, I tend to hang on for dear life :p

Lasereth 03-09-2010 05:53 PM

Ok I changed the FOV like you said Shauk and it made the game totally different. Now it's fun as hell. I just played a match and I don't wanna stop even though Lost is coming on ha ha ha ha.

samcol 03-09-2010 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth (Post 2765774)
Ok I changed the FOV like you said Shauk and it made the game totally different. Now it's fun as hell. I just played a match and I don't wanna stop even though Lost is coming on ha ha ha ha.

i checked his post and didn't see how you can change this? i want to like this game but fov and a few other things are driving me nuts...

Shauk 03-10-2010 01:03 AM

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 FOV Calculator tells you how to do it. I wouldn't recommend it for recon players though as it decreases depth in favor of width of view. I tend to leave it at 55 if I'm going to be playing recon.

Lasereth 03-10-2010 06:59 AM

I couldn't stand it when the FOV was at the default setting. It felt like I needed to be 1 inch from my monitor. Weird. I think mine is at 65 now and it's perfect.

BTW the helicopter controls are the same as BF2/BF2142 which is FTW. I got in the blackhawk last night and my squadmates were like how do you fly so good if you're rank 1?? And I was like been doing this for 8 years bros ha ha ha ha ha

Shauk 03-10-2010 04:19 PM

yeah I still can't fly for shit. I don't even try, I leave it to people who can.

Lasereth 03-10-2010 04:52 PM

I keep getting disconnected out of EA online today. :(

Shauk 03-11-2010 01:26 AM

hrm, didn't have any problems.

p.s. neat lil sig generator

Sigg-O-Matic! Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Stats & Signatures

http://bfbc2.elxx.net/sig/clean9/pc/Shauk.png

Jinn 03-11-2010 07:47 AM

Wow dude, play enough? :oogle::thumbsup:

Shauk 03-11-2010 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinn (Post 2766280)
Wow dude, play enough? :oogle::thumbsup:

I've been stuck house-sitting for my dad all week, there isn't anything to do up here so you can tell what I've been doing to entertain myself :p

Gabbyness 03-11-2010 10:47 AM

How is it that I can plant my M249 SAW into someone's chest and he shrugs off my rounds and manages to stab me in the face for a one-shot kill?!?!

FIX IT!

Or am I totally off-base?

Jinn 03-11-2010 12:56 PM

I'm thinkin' you're totally off base. I get more kills with the SAW than any other gun. I love it so so much.

Gabbyness 03-12-2010 12:08 AM

More talking about the power of the knife than the SAW, the SAW is great, the knife is just dumb.

Shauk 03-12-2010 02:06 AM

I think frontal knife damage should be halved, the way it is from behind is fine though. I sneak up on an entire roost of snipers, then I'm going to stab all of them and not have them going "why is there a machine gun going off behind me?"

samcol 03-12-2010 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabbyness (Post 2766342)
How is it that I can plant my M249 SAW into someone's chest and he shrugs off my rounds and manages to stab me in the face for a one-shot kill?!?!

FIX IT!

Or am I totally off-base?

I dont think you are. Something about this game feels odd from other fps games I play. It's either the netcode or hitboxes, but shot registration just doesn't not seem right.

I do like the knife one shot kills in this game and call of duty though, although not remotely realistic.

Lasereth 03-13-2010 09:53 PM

Are there any guns in the game that have a dot sight? It's getting really old using the iron sights on the guns that take up half the screen when you zoom in (like the PKM). I really don't understand why they make it so tunnel visioned when you look down the sights. BF2 didn't have this problem!!! Shooting people at a distance is really hard with the recoil too. I guess I'm just waiting on a good gun or something.

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Not to mention the guns are peashooters in non-hardcore mode. Even in hardcore mode it takes forever to kill someone at a distance if you're not a sniper. I guess I've been playing Call of Duty for too long. Hardcore mode in COD = 1 bullet and you're dead.

I do sorta agree with Gabby though. In normal mode (non-hardcore) I can spray someone at point blank and it takes forever to kill them, enough for them to run up to me and knife me in the face after taking literally 1-2 seconds of pure LMG fire.

Gabbyness 03-13-2010 11:56 PM

Las,

Things get better and better as you get unlocks. I now have a 4x optical scope on my M249 and it's like a completely different game. Similar advances with all the other kits as well.

I stick by my knife comments though, it's ridiculous! You're getting hit with bullets and you can still mow through it, plunge a knife between my helmet and kevlar, and keep moving!

Also!! How about the 40mm "noob tube" usage? A guy can plant one 4.5 feet from his own body and waste me with no damage to himself. Those things have fuzes, I think!

All in all though, I'm really enjoying it more and more. Fun game. I dig Rush a lot.

Lasereth 03-14-2010 07:31 AM

I think the scope is what I need in this game. So you can unlock mods for the guns like COD then? I was under the impression that once you get a gun, it comes like that and you can't change it.

Nikilidstrom 03-14-2010 03:38 PM

nope, you continue to get kit mods like under mounted shotguns and red dot scopes as you progress. And the unluck interval is fairly short, so it never feels like an unlock is taking "forever".

Gabbyness 03-15-2010 04:49 AM

I find the medic is the easiest "class" to get unlocks for and I think most would agree with me. Rez'n people is as many pts as killing 'em and you get bonuses for doing it in your squad. There's no question who needs rezzing because there's a giant defib symbol on your map and on the person's corpse.

Having the damndest time leveling my engineer, as he feels so weak. But apparently once you get the Gustav/AT4 you become a wrecking ball because I know I get smoked by them routinely.

Anyone else have any thoughts? Best weps for each class/etc?

Shauk 03-15-2010 05:27 AM

I found recon to be the hardest to level. You can play them liked a gimped assault role if you have a selection of non class restricted guns I suppose. it's just that engineers always seem to be in supply of things to blow up or repair, medics are always in supply of dead bodies to rez, assault on camper friendly maps can just toss an ammo box in a wookie nest and speed level off that :p

Recon, well, getting kills? any class can do that. Support points only available via spotting & motion mines?

Not that spotting and motion mines are hard to get points off of, but I think it's pretty much worthless on hardcore mode servers AND it's the only support bonus contingent on everyone else actually doing their job and killing them before the "spot" wears off.

Recon is also stuck in an uncomfortable position of "OR"
while every other class gets "AND"

observe..

Assault. Kill dudes, AND supply ammo
Engies. Kill dudes, AND repair
Medic. Kill dudes, AND rez/heal
Recon, Kill dudes, OR, spot them.

You spot them, you get the 20/30 pts whatever and someone else gets 50 for the kill.
You shoot them, you get 50 at the exclusion of any chance of support points


Design flaw IMO.

that said, I have a lot of fun playing assault. Recon doesn't feel like a good class to me considering there are only really 2 maps large enough to take advantage of that 12x scope. Atacama Desert, and Arica Harbor.

Every other map has way too much cover to warrant gimping yourself the points that come with the built in "AND" support roles of the other 3 classes.

Besides, that 6x scope works great on an AN94 or M16 and takes guys down just as fast, doesn't have any of that nasty "dead zone" that recon/sniper guns suffer from.

Lasereth 03-15-2010 12:38 PM

WTF is the Gustav and why do I die to it 10 times per match???

supersix2 03-15-2010 02:25 PM

I just downloaded this game from Steam yesterday and all in all I'm unimpressed so far. The single player campaign is not that interesting to me. The action is not all that exciting and the combat is just...dull. I haven't tried multiplayer yet because I wanted to play through most of the campaign first to familiarize myself with the game but I find it not holding my attention like the MW2 campaign did.

Couple other issues I have are the sounds. The sound is very flat in the game. The gun I am firing sounds like someone 30 feet away is shooting it. The explosion sounds aren't very good either.

I'm not impressed with the weapon selection or the weapon models. I mean the XM-8? Really??! That gun was experimental and never got passed the development phase..why is an operational unit using it? All of the first person gun models lack detail and the coloring just seems off as well. They are too bright or something I'm not really sure.

Maybe I'll try out multiplayer tonight and see if I like it any better. Right now I'm felling like i wasted $50.

Gabbyness 03-15-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth (Post 2767797)
WTF is the Gustav and why do I die to it 10 times per match???

It's the first rocket/recoil less rifle upgrade for the engineer. It has significantly more splash damage (that I've noticed) than the RPG. It's the nasty.

Lasereth 03-15-2010 04:40 PM

Ok this game is starting to get on my nerves. I have the optical zoom now for the medic guns and I still get owned by snipers from halfway across the map in every game mode. The guns are so damn weak that even if I see someone, I pop them once and they take cover and no kill. If I spray them then the recoil makes me miss. Are there any guns in this game that don't suck dick at anything but medium range?? Short and long range are the bane of my existence. I wish there was a super hardcore mode or something where 1 or 2 bullets is a kill rather than spraying 50 rounds into someone (literally) at 10 feet away and them knifing you in the face.

Shauk 03-15-2010 09:11 PM

There is a hardcore mode....

Getting owned by snipers doesn't matter unless you're playing offense and you have limited tickets or whatever.

on the flip side, snipers on offense are pretty goddamn loltastic since they rarely ever get up from the nest to actually help push on rush or contribute on conquest points. Usually the recon vs recon war is a completely separate subgame that I just laugh at since both sides are just playing to stroke their epeens.

I dunno, you can play recon for a few days straight to get a feel for where they will be hiding so you can just walk around as any other class with your LoS in mind at all times. but if you get popped, it's not the end of the world. Camper #215 just wasted his time popping you while you were probably being helpful playing a medic.

I can't answer about the medic guns but I know assault gets some nice guns. I can pop people from some pretty impressive distances with the m16.
The best people in this game aren't running and gunning, they're creeping (quickly) along from cover to cover trying to find advantageous positioning to hit the blindside of a victim while being in the sweetspot rangewise. It's very much a skillful asset to be sneaky and try to find an entrance that doesn't have cover.

I always feel like I'm walking in to a game of russian roulette every time I go in to that building type that has the staircase in the middle and skylights. I wish this game had flashbangs, haha.

Gabbyness 03-16-2010 12:33 AM

I gotta echo pretty much everything that Shauk said. I do very much love the 8x Sniper teams on Offense when I'm D. Fine, shoot the crap outa me, but you're not getting any closer to "B."

I find the M60 w/ 4x to be pretty accurate and mean. I have not gotten the M16, though people say very good things about it.

Shauk is also right about knowing where to look to find potential enemies. After playing Africa Harbor 10 or so times when I *do* go Recon I know almost exactly where people are going to be. Now, I can't kill them in one shot (weak gun) but at least I know I'm improving somewhat.

Stick with it. My K/D ratio was 0.6 when I first started out, now it's steadily creeping up.

Lasereth 03-16-2010 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shauk (Post 2767972)
There is a hardcore mode....

See one of my posts above about my opinions on hardcore mode. It's not very hardcore. It still takes a lot of shots to kill someone in HC. Plus having half the game not on your UI isn't fun! I wish there was a hardcore mode that still had the UI. The UI in COD4/MW2 being gone in HC isn't a big deal, but in BC2 the UI is very important because it's so minimal. Not being able to tell if your tank can take 1 more RPG hit is FTL.

BTW I had a blast playing last night on the one snowy forest map.

Shauk 03-16-2010 10:42 AM

you complain too much. lol.

you have to consider all the factors here. You're obviously new and haven't unlocked a lot of stuff yet. Thus, you're on the bottom of the food chain.

Things stacked against you right now is that your stock gun still takes 6ish body rounds or so to put someone down (in normal mode) out of a 30 bullet clip. If you hit 20% accuracy, you'll proooobably down someone in that clip.

the later guns like the AN94/m16 whatever take people down in 3-4 shots, and fire in controlled bursts so youll usually take someone down in 2 trigger pulls instead of the pray and spray recoil you've got with ironsights and stock fodder weaponry.

still takes some fire discipline with those weapons not to just blow your clip in panic just because you've got bullets whizzing your way.

Those are just baseline numbers, doesn't even include factors like people with the body armor spec or the upgraded ammo power spec.

Hardcore mode is pretty much 1 shot 1 kill or maybe 2-3 if you're still using crap weapons.

Lasereth 03-16-2010 10:49 AM

If the guns are really that much different as you level up then that makes a lot of sense (even if it's annoying). I'd rather skill have more to do with whether you take someone out over the accuracy and power of the gun, even level 1 noob vs level 20 guy.

The 1-bullet kills in HC mode sound good, but surely the guns aren't 300% more powerful as you level? (1 bullet kill vs 3 bullets to kill)

Shauk 03-16-2010 11:58 AM

Bad Company 2 | DenKirson on Xanga

bookmark it soldier, this is your new field manual. :p

Nikilidstrom 03-16-2010 03:21 PM

I have to agree on the early medic guns, the recoil is a huge pain, and they couldn't drop a kitten. But since grabbing the t88, the medic has been a blast to play. It has minimal recoil, and while a little under powered, I have no problem catching people from a distance. But if they gave LMGs the range and power of a sniper rifle, what would be the point of recon?

As for the role of recon, I think you are completely underestimating it Shauk. I know I complained earlier about the sniper rifles, but my mind is completely changed. In conquest I can often single handedly hold a flag from the right position with the sniper, and in rush I can usually keep one of the objectives clean on defense, especially after the tanks have opened up the walls. On offense you are a little more limited, however you can keep people clear of a set charge, and again its a lot easier if the walls hae been blown out by tanks. You just have to be more concerned about winning the round than personal stats.

Anywho, still loving the game, best so far in the BF series.

Lasereth 03-16-2010 04:50 PM

Wow I just played a few matches and I think I'm finally starting to get the hang of this game. I went 18-5 in one match with the PKM, got like 3,000 points in 1 match as medic. Sometimes just waiting for the chance to attack while your squad spawns around you is the best choice instead of rushing in. I used to be a BF fanatic but I haven't played a BF game in 3 years so I guess I was a little rusty ha ha ha ha

Shauk 03-17-2010 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikilidstrom (Post 2768248)
I have to agree on the early medic guns, the recoil is a huge pain, and they couldn't drop a kitten. But since grabbing the t88, the medic has been a blast to play. It has minimal recoil, and while a little under powered, I have no problem catching people from a distance. But if they gave LMGs the range and power of a sniper rifle, what would be the point of recon?

As for the role of recon, I think you are completely underestimating it Shauk. I know I complained earlier about the sniper rifles, but my mind is completely changed. In conquest I can often single handedly hold a flag from the right position with the sniper, and in rush I can usually keep one of the objectives clean on defense, especially after the tanks have opened up the walls. On offense you are a little more limited, however you can keep people clear of a set charge, and again its a lot easier if the walls hae been blown out by tanks. You just have to be more concerned about winning the round than personal stats.

Anywho, still loving the game, best so far in the BF series.


That's the thing, for me, the most effective path to playing this game long term is to stop playing stuff once you've maxed it out (like i'm max recon/assault/vehicle right now, so i need to work on my engineer and medic.

after that it's about points per game, and for that, classes that have support roles are the way to go usually. (it may vary from map to map)

I still feel there are only really 2 (maybe 3) maps big enough to require the range that a 12x scope brings you.

when weighing the advantages of each class vs another, it makes me wonder why I would choose a class that weak in close quarters and lacks a unique support function (it's all about the points maaaaan!) vs anything else.


I find the number one class right now that I want to stab in the stupid face are medics.

I get mowed down by them more than any other because with access to the 4x scope and the ammo upgrade, coupled with freaking 100 BULLETS before they have to reload = ultimate spray & pray.

It's gotten to the point while I level that I just tag along with a light level medic or something and wait for them to die, grab their kit, res them, and play as a medic while I level something else :p

yeah so right now my play patch is, points for class unlocks, followed by points for leveling to 50 or whatever (play whatever is suited to your situation), followed by play to win I guess? I guess if I don't care about points or leveling then I'd play recon to cover mcoms or flags, but I dunno, a high K/D ratio doesn't get you anything in this game, nor does winning or losing aside from a handful of bonus points.

Orchrist 03-17-2010 06:06 AM

Fighting groups of medics is oh so fun, the mass spray of bullets and them constantly reviving each other. Those later guns make all the difference. Even with the early unlocks you tell a huge difference right off the bat. First assault rifle vs XM-8 no contest. the XM-8 blows it out of the water even with iron sights. I'm still using the basic sniper rifle though because the few I've unlocked so far are all the high rate of fire low damage rifles, can't wait to get the 50cal sniper rifle, I've had a chance to use it a few times and it's quite a bit more effective.

Overall I think I preferred the leveling system in 2142 better, your not linked to playing a class with it's underpowered starting guns to level it, exp is the same no matter how you earn it and you choose what to unlock with each rank-up. That and for the MOST part the higher level guns in 2142 didn't seem to outright TRUMP the basic guns, they were more specialized in their uses so they tended to conform better to different play styles, but at least the new players had a fighting chance.

Gabbyness 03-17-2010 06:38 AM

I'm so hot and cold with this game, sometimes I'll go 3/11 scraping by to get any pts I can and then the next two maps I'll be 2:1 K/D ratio and crushing everyone under my boot.

Strange. It isn't always bound to whether I'm winning or losing the map either.

Is Alt-fire the last upgrade for vehicle? I just got it tonight, WAY ahead of any other classes. I got some lucky streaks with the Abrams/Bradley.

Lasereth 03-17-2010 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Orchrist (Post 2768471)
Overall I think I preferred the leveling system in 2142 better, your not linked to playing a class with it's underpowered starting guns to level it, exp is the same no matter how you earn it and you choose what to unlock with each rank-up. That and for the MOST part the higher level guns in 2142 didn't seem to outright TRUMP the basic guns, they were more specialized in their uses so they tended to conform better to different play styles, but at least the new players had a fighting chance.

Yes! The Krylov in 2142 was the best gun in the game IMO which is one of the first if not the first gun you get. I also hate not choosing your unlocks and just getting them randomly as you level.

samcol 03-17-2010 07:38 AM

wow...changing my fov to 80 made all the difference in the world. it helped my k:d ratio and i swear it improved my fps somehow.

thanks for the tip :thumbsup:

dippin 03-17-2010 09:43 AM

bought it.

The one thing that I dislike so far is the absurd overuse of mortar attacks.

Gabbyness 03-17-2010 03:05 PM

Wait 'till you get "noob tubed" 14 times a map :)

Lasereth 03-17-2010 03:20 PM

I just got the accuracy modifier for the medic kit. Ok now I see what it's all about...the guns go from flat out sucking donkey dick at rank 1 to being as good as the other BF games once you rank up. I went 2 or 3:1 kill to death last 3 matches!

Gabbyness 03-17-2010 03:44 PM

Learning has occurred! YEAH! Nice work, Las ;)

Shauk 03-17-2010 09:06 PM

I feel like I'm so helpful in this thread. /patselfonback

(in reality I just post things other people found) ;p



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Gabbyness 03-18-2010 04:11 AM

You're obviously a very good player Shauk . . . but . . .

1m 37s, hilarious lifespan. Mine's probably like 15s.

Lasereth 03-18-2010 04:17 AM

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Nelson Bay is probably my favorite map BTW.

Jinn 03-18-2010 08:01 AM

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My problem is doing well on the wrong team.

I always get stuck with the people who don't know a grenade from a hole in their ass. My K/D and W/L make that pretty obvious. :)

Shauk 03-18-2010 10:15 AM

crap, I'm gonna have to go hide in a corner for a whole game and cheese up my average :p

Don't be intimidated by my score or playtime or anything.

I've been gaming since I could move my thumbs and started on the atari 2600, and I'm not working or anything so my free time tends to be spent in all sorts of odd ways.

Jinn 03-18-2010 11:22 AM

Yea - I envy it, but am not intimidated. I've also been gaming since the 2600, but work 60 hour weeks and have a live-in full-time girlfriend. :)

Lasereth 03-18-2010 12:50 PM

Yeah working 40 hours a week and being married = playing a few times a week for an hour at a time. In college and before I got my current job I would play 10 hours of Battlefield in 1 day.

Lasereth 03-18-2010 04:26 PM

Wow I've been owning face tonight. I just experienced my first crash to desktop though. I was like 20-3 K/D with tons of points as medic in my squad and right before we blew up the last MCOMM station it CTD'ed. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Lasereth 03-19-2010 09:54 AM

I have the same problem as Jinn. I always get on the fail team. Every now and then I'll get on a team that just "gets it," and we push comm stations relentlessly until they're down. Then sometimes your team never even makes it to the comm stations the whole match, never even setting 1 charge.

I think 1 single squad can change the outcome of this game and whichever team has the teamwork squad is the team that wins.

Shauk 03-19-2010 10:32 AM

Yeah now that i've been playing a medic for the last couple of hours, I'm really starting to see why they attract the noobs. You can rock a pisspoor 0/10 ratio and still top the scoreboard, but with a freaking gun that has 200 rounds before reloading, it's amazing that you wouldn't be able to mow people down.

I pop the ammo upgrade and a scope and it's STUPID easy to rack up kills as long as you're not a piss poor aim and you're facing the right direction.

Ran in to a hacker last night with a 64/3 k/d and people just yelled at him and told him to gtfo while he denied it. Yet I personally watched him spinning 180 degrees instantly and taking out people in quick succession behind cover (myself included)

it almost makes me want to invest 100$ in to a usb/software solution to play on the ps3 with my mouse/keyboard since I still suck with the controller. I just don't feel the precision I want is offered with the analog controls.

I couldn't find a way to change teams on the console, seems like the only way to get on the winning side is to sit on that team until enough players rotate out that the law of averages falls in your favor.

On pc it's just as easy as automatically switching as soon as you join, people don't notice. It's cheap, but no sense in saddling yourself with a bunch of failures who don't even know how to spot.

(seriously it's a free 20 points, just freaking do it)

tcp 03-19-2010 11:10 AM

They really need to improve auto team balancing, stacking the teams just exacerbates the problem and makes every game boringly one-sided.

They seem to have went a bit far in tweaking the dispersion to make the game less of a twitch shooter. They also really screwed up pilot controls/sensitivity; I suppose in an attempt to make it fit with the arcade-style of the rest of the game. It is just funny how it didn't work and every noob crash lands within seconds.

At least the maps are just big enough to flank in and the destructible environment redeems most of the disturbing features. I just hope the only new maps we see won't be limited to DLC.

What are some of the crazy exploits you know about? The C4-laden UAV sneak attack probably takes the cake.

Anyone else only play engineer? I haven't even touched the other classes.
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Shauk 03-19-2010 11:49 AM

Engineer is the most disappointing class to me.

Not my playstyle at all, and it took for freaking ever to unlock all the engineer guns, which are really not all that interesting. They're all just silenced, low accuracy, high fire rate, medium damage spray guns.

Not exactly my choice for going in to squad combat.

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dippin 03-19-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Shauk (Post 2769593)
Engineer is the most disappointing class to me.

Not my playstyle at all, and it took for freaking ever to unlock all the engineer guns, which are really not all that interesting. They're all just silenced, low accuracy, high fire rate, medium damage spray guns.

Not exactly my choice for going in to squad combat.

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You are forgetting the sniper rifle with splash damage, aka the Carl Gustav.

Shauk 03-19-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dippin (Post 2769617)
You are forgetting the sniper rifle with splash damage, aka the Carl Gustav.

yeah those noobs can stand in the open and get hit by that all they want, really don't care :p

Not a fan of when they guide it through a window of a building i'm squatting in.

40mm grenades are too powerful, should take 2 to take down a wall, not just one, esp when they can camp on their own ammo box.

Shotgun range seems a little long, I had some medic on top of the lumber mill of some map pop me all the way down on the road leading to the train depot (the other conquest point being the farm)

Something seems wrong about that... being sniped with a shotgun.

supersix2 03-21-2010 11:27 AM

After playing multiplayer, I'm addicting to this game. It was a little rough starting out with the crappy starting weapons. But wow this game has been fun. The sounds are still lacking in my opinion but it may be an issue with my computer and not the game.

Anyone else having sound issues? The sounds are just flat to me and the explosion effects don't sound right at all.

Lasereth 03-23-2010 04:54 PM

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tcp 03-24-2010 02:14 PM

Sounds are not spectacular, you may want to bump up the quality, it starts on medium by default. I think it's only in changed in your config file BTW.

Last night, on one server I was playing, I saw over 30 PB Bans for aimbot in a matter of hours. I don't know if the server was goofing up or hacking is way more common than I thought.

dippin 03-24-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tcp (Post 2771355)
Sounds are not spectacular, you may want to bump up the quality, it starts on medium by default. I think it's only in changed in your config file BTW.

Last night, on one server I was playing, I saw over 30 PB Bans for aimbot in a matter of hours. I don't know if the server was goofing up or hacking is way more common than I thought.

There is a LOT of hacking, but what has contributed to the massive number of bans recently is that the server browser is not working completely right, sometimes falsely reporting that a server has punkbuster off when its on, and right at the beginning PB wasn't working at all. So it gave hackers a false sense of security.

Shauk 03-24-2010 04:43 PM

yeah I've seen some crazy like 138/5 dude or something the other day, people were yelling at him hardcore.

was kinda hilarious, I just went and found another server though, no reason to stick around and nerd rage when the solution is clear.


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