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Old 11-08-2008, 12:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Left 4 Dead: Zombie apocalypse multiplayer co-op!

I know a few people are really looking forward to Left 4 Dead, the next major release from the legendary Valve (and Turtle Rock Studios--read: Counterstrike).

For those who haven't heard much yet, have a look at video below.

Gameplay footage:

If you preorder the game now (the release date is November 18), you get early access to the demo! I'm thinking of doing this because I'm dying to see how it is. I love multiplayer co-op games, and this one looks amazing!

Has anyone played the demo yet?

How is it?
Is it good?
Do you like it?
OMG, what's it like?!

What do you guys think about this kind of gaming? I think it's going to be really engaging and rewarding. I hope to see more of this in the future. I like where Valve is going with this.
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Pre-ordered...

downloading...

I trust Valve enough to buy a game before reviews.
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Old 11-08-2008, 02:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, thanks, man. I just gave into peer pressure.


I'm locked and (down)loading....

UPDATE:
aberkok and I fired this up and gave it a go.

Two thumbs up!

There's some amazing co-op gameplay here, and I highly recommend at least trying the demo when it gets a general release!

It's the kind of gameplay that makes it impossible to survive unless you know how to work together. I think voice chat will be quite advantageous for this one.

It's not all about firepower, it's about deciding when to use it. This isn't a game about shooting all willy-nilly until everything is dead. Doing that just might get you--and your fellow survivors--killed.

I'm really excited about playing the demo more, and more for the release of the game.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The demo is filled with awesomeness but it is two VERY short levels. Single player works well enough to be fun but multiplayer is definitely what it was made for.

I saw someone complain that is was just HL2 with zombies but I have played the first 2 levels about 30 times and I am still having fun.

My biggest complaint would be that none of my friends on steam have preordered the game yet so I am stuck playing with a bunch of random kids. Then they run from the rooftop to the safehouse as fast as they can.

I like taking my time and looking in every room of every building.
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
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OMG! I love games like this! I'm a huge Resident Evil fan and I can't wait for RE5! Do you know if this game will be available on Play Station 3 at anytime? My PC's are too out dated to play the new video games that are out today and I don't own an Xbox.
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Old 11-09-2008, 07:04 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Sorry, SheDevil. I am pretty certain that Valve said they're not doing L4D on PS3.
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Old 11-09-2008, 07:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Sorry, SheDevil. I am pretty certain that Valve said they're not doing L4D on PS3.
Aww Darn it! I love zombie games! I've been into Resident Evil since RE3 came out. I've played them all and RE2 is my favorite. I went and bought a game cube just to play RE remake! I must say that it was well worth it, too. I wish Capcom would re-make RE2 as well.

Oh well, I have been planning on upgrading my PC's but it won't be anytime soon...maybe I'll get an alien ware like my friend has...??? I dunno...

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Old 11-09-2008, 11:01 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Am i going to be able to buy this at a store? i'm quite tempted to get this game, but i don't really feel like buying it over steam.
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Am i going to be able to buy this at a store? i'm quite tempted to get this game, but i don't really feel like buying it over steam.
You can preorder it on Amazon.com/.ca, which has a DVD-ROM version.

Do it, and make sure you're on the TFP Steam Friends group list.
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Do it, and make sure you're on the TFP Steam Friends group list.

I didn't know there was a TFP group...
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Old 11-09-2008, 03:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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To everyone who reads this thread: If you want to fight off the zombie horde with fellow TFPers, be sure to join the group on Steam!

It's a public group.
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Old 11-12-2008, 07:39 AM   #12 (permalink)
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ok im game.. what is steam group and where do i sign up at? sorry all i know is wow. so im lacking on cool uber stuff that is way better than wow. heh

i played CoD most of the versions, DF: landwarrior and unreal tourney. played them all till i wore out 3 kbs and 5 mice heh



oops welp i got the steam platform in.. getting the demo now.. just gotta figure out where you are all at on the steam platform now


what voice program do you use? ive only used ventrilo most my time online in games.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:08 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Okay, if you go into Steam, you should be able to search for groups. Just type in a search for "Tilted Forum Project." The alternative would be to post your Steam ID and one of us could invite you.

Voice is built-in.

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Okay, after having played the (rather brief) demo a bit more, I'm really starting to like this game.

Friendly fire is a huge issue. This is because of the nature of the zombie mobs which can come out of nowhere, and from any direction. Always check your fire! (It's actually quite funny to hear the voice sets in response to friendly fire. ) It's all too easy to walk into someone's "firing solution," especially when in close quarters. Most of my friendly fire is now a result of one of my team moving around too much and getting in the way--as I'm already firing! Your positioning and thoughtful movements are key.

This is going to take a while to get used to, but sometimes you just have to resort to melee or just standing there until you can get a clear shot. There is absolutely no way to turn off friendly fire, it's an integral part of the gameplay. I've taken to the habit of crouching when I'm in front so people can shoot over me. But this only works for so long, since the game is so dynamic. You never really know when or from where zombies will come at you.

I've also taken to the habit of always looking behind us.

This game will make you paranoid.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:15 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Alright this game is awesome. I love how you have to play like a military unit in order to survive. Truly having covering fire, truly watching your shots, truly helping each other out in order to live. Plus it's so different every time you play. Unless it gets hosed for having a demo that is better than the actual game, I will be buying it.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:52 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I'd glad all that the video game industry saves all the good games until the middle of fall semester. Fuckers.
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Old 11-15-2008, 02:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Anyone else have this pre-loaded and burning a hole in their hard drive?

I keep trying imagine what the other maps will be like. I like what they've done with what we've seen in the city so far.

They did a great job with the apocalyptic cityscape. Abandoned cars, torn-up apartments, collapsed stairwells in the subway system. Generally, the environment is set up well to allow for an anything-can-happen scenario where zombies can get at you from places you didn't know had gaping cracks or holes in them. They even come at you as they spill out from the rooftops.

It's one of those games where it's hard to for your team to hunker-down defensively. There are no easy choke points and you always feel you should keep moving for fear of something nasty coming at you. There are no static spawn points, so you never know what will happen.

I'm guessing the longer you take, the more worn down you'll get before you find the next safe room. But at the same time you can't move too quickly for fear of attracting too much attention too quickly.

Why do I have this much to say when I've only played the demo? Plus it's a small demo at that.

November 18th can't come too soon.
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Old 11-16-2008, 06:24 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Played the 360 demo last night and I had a blast. I don't think my PC can handle it otherwise I'd try it for PC too. Getting this from GameFly first to try it before I buy it.
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Old 11-16-2008, 07:17 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm guessing the longer you take, the more worn down you'll get before you find the next safe room.
Yeah maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea to take a victory lap of the final room before entering the safe room. Oh yeah, that's what you did last time we played.
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Old 11-16-2008, 08:14 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Yeah maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea to take a victory lap of the final room before entering the safe room. Oh yeah, that's what you did last time we played.
Dude, I was totally checking out spaces I hadn't seen before the end of the demo.

Oh, and you failed to mention how I also managed to shoot you in the head a couple of times in the "safe" room....
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:16 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Oh, and you failed to mention how I also managed to shoot you in the head a couple of times in the "safe" room....
That was hilarious!!

I fully expect this game to help us explore new areas of our friendship.
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I fully expect this game to help us explore new areas of our friendship.
I've always got your back, man.
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Old 11-16-2008, 10:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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This game...rocks....so...HARD!
I feel like I've had more fun with a videogame than I have in years! I will buy this for sure.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:30 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Welcome to the fight for survival, my friend! Tomorrow is the day!

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I've noticed they've just added a feature for making games based on Steam group, which means it will be easy for Steam TFP members to set things up.

So for those of you getting this game, please be sure to join the Steam group "Tilted Forum Project."

As much as it pains me to say this, I might not be on tomorrow night for the release because I have a book launch to go to. If I don't get home too late, I might jump on, so we'll see. Definitely Wednesday night after 9 or 10 some time.
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Old 11-17-2008, 05:06 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Glad to see I'm not the only one detonating the gas tanks when my friends walk by them in the final room of the demo!
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Old 11-17-2008, 07:11 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I had to break my "no video games 'till the end of the semester" vow last night to play the demo.
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Old 11-17-2008, 09:37 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Glad to see I'm not the only one detonating the gas tanks when my friends walk by them in the final room of the demo!
I actually did this by accident the first time. I just started randomly shooting things and the next thing i'm yelling "I'M ON FIREEEEEEEEEE"


this game is actually somewhat difficult on expert. But aside from that setting, the game is too easy in my opinion.
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Old 11-18-2008, 04:48 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Ahh what fun. The game unlocked at midnight and I played until 4AM and had to get up at 7AM. I haven't done that for a while.

If you want to try something difficult and FUN, try the versus mode. Basically two teams (8 people) take turns playing each stage of a campaign... but you have 4 as survivors and 4 as the zombie bosses.

Much fun to be had with this game.

Oh and I LOVE the tank.
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:48 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I'm so jealous!

It pains me that I have an event tonight and can't play. I don't know if I'll get home at a reasonable hour to play it enough to satisfy me. If I stay up too late, I usually catch a cold, especially at this time of year.

I heard about that versus mode, and I liked what I read. Is it true they make the zombie team cycle through the Tank to allow for even play? (It's the ultimate uber class, I'm sure.)

Personally, I'm most looking forward to seeing the other maps.

I'm also interested in how the reputation tracking is. (Yes, your fellow players will know about your bad friendly-fire habits....)
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:04 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Just to let you guys know, Circuit City has this for $39.99. I will be getting this today if anyone else wants to join me.
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Old 11-18-2008, 11:22 AM   #30 (permalink)
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$39.99 for 360 or PC?
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well, I don't know about the 360, but I just got it for the PC for that price.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:44 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I played the demo over the weekend, and it is now disabled. I will be picking this up later in the week as it is a lot of fun. Seriously, a LOT of fun.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:57 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I heard about that versus mode, and I liked what I read. Is it true they make the zombie team cycle through the Tank to allow for even play? (It's the ultimate uber class, I'm sure.)
Yes you randomly get the Tank and it only appears at certain times (I am not sure yet how it is determined). Most of the time you have a Smoker, a Boomer, and 2 Hunters running around. The Tank is maybe once per section of the campaign.
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Old 11-18-2008, 02:28 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Just to let you guys know, Circuit City has this for $39.99. I will be getting this today if anyone else wants to join me.
wish I would have known that. Game Stop gave me hell to get the $5 off pre-order deal. I had to get the manager and everything. Even though Gamestop.com has it for 44.99 pre-order, along with the rest of the universe.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:49 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Yes you randomly get the Tank and it only appears at certain times (I am not sure yet how it is determined). Most of the time you have a Smoker, a Boomer, and 2 Hunters running around. The Tank is maybe once per section of the campaign.
hardly seems fair. whoever plays as the boomer is really getting the short end of the stick.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:59 PM   #36 (permalink)
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hardly seems fair. whoever plays as the boomer is really getting the short end of the stick.
Why? I love playing as a boomer... find a place to hide up high and puke on them as they walk by... watch the horde come running... rinse and repeat.
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Old 11-18-2008, 10:44 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Why? I love playing as a boomer... find a place to hide up high and puke on them as they walk by... watch the horde come running... rinse and repeat.
agreed, the boomer is the bane of our campaign runs. the smoker and the hunter are meh and the tank is just time consuming.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:22 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Why? I love playing as a boomer... find a place to hide up high and puke on them as they walk by... watch the horde come running... rinse and repeat.
oh...

i was under the impression that it's literally the 4 zombie bosses against the 4 humans.

my mistake.
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:13 PM   #39 (permalink)
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oh...

i was under the impression that it's literally the 4 zombie bosses against the 4 humans.

my mistake.
Nope it's like playing a campaign. There are tons of random 1 shot zombies and the assortment of boss zombies. I don't know what the normal respawn rate is but there were times I had to wait 18 seconds to respawn as a zed.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:39 PM   #40 (permalink)
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