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Old 11-02-2008, 10:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Star Wars: The Old Republic

Game Info Overview | Star Wars: The Old Republic

Bioware and Lucas Arts...

Hmmm will it be another failed attempt? I hope not..


Play Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ and forge your own Star Wars™ saga in a story-driven massively-multiplayer online game from BioWare and LucasArts. Explore an age thousands of years before the rise of Darth Vader when war between the Old Republic and the Sith Empire divides the galaxy.

Choose to be a Jedi, a Sith, or from a variety of other classic Star Wars roles, and make decisions which define your personal story and determine your path down the light or dark side of the Force. Along the way you will befriend courageous companions who will fight at your side or possibly betray you based on your actions. Together, you will battle enemies in dynamic Star Wars combat and team up with other players to overcome incredible challenges.

Join us. Your personal Star Wars saga begins in Star Wars: The Old Republic.

And a quick overview from the Dev Team...

http://www.massively.com/2008/10/23/...and-star-wars/

James Neri, LucasArts Design: Star Wars: The Old Republic is about bringing innovation to the MMO space. As we discussed before we're innovating by adding story, companion characters and meaningful choice. Some of the other things we're doing are very exciting – we're bringing Star Wars combat to the MMO space. We really feel that Star Wars combat is about epic blaster combat and lightsaber duels. Very fast paced, visceral combat. That's something we want to bring to this game, and I think we have. Meaningful in-game choices is another major element of the game, as we discussed before.

One of the other things about MMOs is that they're very big. Huge. Our game is huge. It's the equivalent in story content and square footage of every other BioWare game that has ever been produced and released combined. Just think of all those games, put them all together, and we have more content than that. That's a lot of content.
One thing we want to be clear about is that even though we are adding new things to the MMO space – story, companion characters – we are still a massively multiplayer game. We know that we have to have the features that people who are fans of that genre are expecting. We know there are different audiences.

We need to appeal to the BioWare audience – fans of Knights of the Old Republic and Mass Effect – and we need to appeal to fans of the MMO genre. We've kept those both in mind, and we feel we've succeeded in that regard.

Rich Vogel, Co-GM BioWare Austin: When Gordon and I talked to Ray and Greg and formed the Austin studio, we had a lot of people come down from Edmonton, especially in design and art and animation. In world building, we had a lot of people come down from Edmonton, James came from Edmonton, and we have people that worked on Mass Effect. The animation system that you saw in Mass Effect, people that worked on that are with us as well.

Gordon and I worked to bring art and programming together for the studio. We have about ten years experience per person, averaged across the team, they're veterans. We feel like we've assembled a really really great team to build this game with.

Daniel Erikson, Lead Writer BioWare Austin: Role-playing games at BioWare have always been based on a few central concepts – pillars, if you will – of what makes a role-playing game. This has been true since pen-and-paper games. The first of the pillars is combat. Real basic. You make a role-playing game without combat ... I guess you made an adventure game.

"We need to appeal to the BioWare audience – fans of Knights of the Old Republic and Mass Effect – and we need to appeal to fans of the MMO genre. We've kept those both in mind, and we feel we've succeeded in that regard."
Exploration. You need to go new places, you need to see new things, you need to have exciting adventure. Progression. So we're going to go up levels, we're going to get loot, we're going to get cooler and bigger.

And ... story. Now this has been true in every game that's ever been done that's an RPG until we went to the MMO space. And then somehow one of these fell off the truck on the way to MMO Land and it never really got in there. When we started talking about it, what we heard was "Well, you can't do a story in an MMO." We thought, "Well why?" The answer we pretty much got was, "Because people haven't." That didn't make a lot of sense.

Rich Vogel, Co-GM BioWare Austin: We can say that we'll have many different worlds for you to explore, and that you'll have a method you can use to travel from world to world. Again, we can't go into details on other space elements. That isn't something we can talk about at this point.

We also can't talk about ground vehicles. But, obviously, Star Wars has a lot of vehicles. So ... it's definitely something that is on our plate.
"I'm very proud of our players there, and we remain committed to Star Wars Galaxies."


This might be a question mostly for Jake. What has LucasArts come away with, from the experience on Star Wars Galaxies? What have you learned that you can avoid repeating in The Old Republic?

Jake: First thing: Galaxies is one of the things I still work on. I'm very proud of our players there, and we remain committed to Galaxies. Even with this game in development. We're constantly looking at what's gone well and what's gone wrong there to learn lessons. One of the biggest things, that James talked about ... we want to make sure we grab the player right out of the gate. Early on, with a compelling and heroic story, launch into the world. That's something I think we could have done better with Galaxies.

"We think of the web as part of the service ... There's no difference for me from someone that's on the web and somebody that's in-game."
As a company I think LucasArts is now more experienced dealing with community and understanding what that really means. The importance of listening to those folks, of being in tune with what's going on inside the game on a day-to-day basis. I think we're definitely bringing that sort of approach to this title. But hey, Galaxies is still going strong. We're going to continue to learn from it and bring lessons learned to both teams.

Are you guys doing anything with player-driven environments, player towns, anything like that?

Rich: We're looking into things like that, but we can't talk about it. Warhammer has been doing a lot of nifty things with Keeps along those lines. They're part of EA and we can talk to them about their experiences. We're allowed to look at all the stuff they've done with that.

"We feel because it's an MMO and players play MMOs because they want to feel like they're a part of a vast world, you can't make too heavy use of instancing or you take that feeling away."
Are you engineering the game to be web-facing at all? Achievements, Facebook tie-ins, anything like that?

Gordon Walton, Co-GM BioWare Austin: We think of the web as part of the service. It's part of the game service. So you'll see some very competitive stuff from us there. That's where I'd leave it. There's no difference for me from someone that's on the web and somebody that's in-game. In the big scheme of things, they're still a customer and we're delivering entertainment experiences to them. Regardless of the platform.

Will the game make use of instancing?

Rich: Yes, there is going to be a form of instancing. That's very important to a lot of different things – being able to do storytelling, being able to do experiences that aren't disrupted in public areas ... they are a part of our game. We do have both though, and we want to make sure you don't feel like you are in a single-player game.

Jake: We feel because it's an MMO and players play MMOs because they want to feel like they're a part of a vast world, you can't make too heavy use of instancing or you take that feeling away. It is a balance, though, like Rich was saying.

Rich: I met my first friends online by getting in trouble with a monster and they came over to rescue me. That is the kind of experience you can't get without public areas.
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I liked the games, but I really don't like the Old Republic universe. I wish they'd stick to 'modern' star wars for an mmo.
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Drider: This looks cool and might actually kill WoW for me. I'd like to say more, but first: what are your thoughts on the interview? What are your impressions on the game in general?
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Old 11-02-2008, 06:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'll look into it about 4 months after release. MMO's I just wont touch anymore till a few good patches.
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Old 11-08-2008, 10:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Drider: This looks cool and might actually kill WoW for me. I'd like to say more, but first: what are your thoughts on the interview? What are your impressions on the game in general?

well in all honesty they just released the info on it so aint much i can tell so far. I've two friends that will be in the beta for sure so i get some cool info when it starts.

they wont have comp armor. they wont have the buffs that doc's had in SWG.. and the space combat will be more along x-wing vs. tie fighter..

they are trying to remember the three basics of SW.. its a space opera. Space battles, Jedi and light sabers. heh

the thought of a underlining story line running in the whole back ground of the game as it flows is kinda cool.. Unlike wow, where you go in and do an instance but you rely more on the wow site for background that story, this game will have it in there. What killed wow for me was the time I had to put in instances. You spent 4-6 hours raiding each time, just for a hand full of drops no one uses. My pally did kara for over 5 months and yet all the plate that would drop was healing gear. I just never had a good roll for the T4 items sigh. Fact we could never get passed Kara told me im wasting my time in this game. And anyone on Farstriders would tell you on horde, Domaorn rocked tanking he just was very unlucky getting gear.

Though my doubt is how they intend to work this out.. lets face it say they have 2 millions subscribers in around 6 months after start. How will every one be apart of this all? They are doing instances like wow.

Once again we get player houseing. Fact is SOE isnt apart of this. LA has learned their lesson from SWG. They are planning to listen to the community more. Lets face it, when its all said and done, we are the bosses. With out us, they kill the servers. In SWG, they saw something that wasn't working and made it worse.

We all jumped ship and went to wow... wow to me is the lazy man's game. and why its all appealing to all. Its cartoonish and easy to play. We will get a dynamic combat system again. Alot of us that play these type mmo's are tired of point and click and the game takes care of it for us. We want a challenge.

Unlike SWG, we get two factions. Republic and Sith.. But under it all its all about the force. Unlike the "modern" SW genere, we are in a time at its hight. No hideing in the background, no fear of being hunted down. We can walk in the daylight with sabers showing. (that is if you want to, heh)

We will get more options, like Sith force shields, and such. To the "modern" times its artifacts, to us it will be.. "Darth Bob, we just created this thing we'll call it a Sith popcorn suncrusher!!"

the fact we get to fly ships instead of just a "zone" mechanic will be nice.

Over all I like the fact they went back to basics, included stuff from other mmo's but are trying some new things.

But like SWG, I think we will yet again see an increase in P2P. SOE uped the standard price per month when they launched SWG.

Plus, lets face it to me the two "big" game companies out there is Bizzard and Bioware. Bioware just makes kick ass role playing games all the time. Blizzard just cashes in on remade ideas. D1,D2, now D3.. SC1, SC2 or the triligy of millions.. heh and WC in all its genere.

I think wow only worked out cuz everyone was fishing around for a game, and it took off. When JTLS came out for SWG, everyone including me fell, joystick play was usless. Made ACE in a few days and was like "yawn.. anything else to this expac?"

Right now I ended my two wow accounts, im waiting on D3 and this game to come out. Till then im catching up on all the sci-fi shows i missed heh Sigh, 4 years of it

But, with bio in the mix ill hold passing judement till i find out. As, for me and my council of jedi 6 here in louisiana. We will be going over thier "Sith Lore" with a fine tooth comb. We are all about SWs.. lol the 2nd day SW trivia pursuit came out we had it memorized or knew it before hand. Ive watched the classic SW movies at least 250 times each. Every weekend for as long as we can remember. To us, it never got old.
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If It's a WHOLE LOT more like KOTOR and a lot less like SWG and Mass Effect, I'll be happy.
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Old 11-09-2008, 02:49 AM   #7 (permalink)
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the KotoR games were the only games I really got into, ever. I can't live without my KotOR.
Yes, I know I'm lame, people tell me all the time what sort of games I'm missing out on. Meh. I've tried and failed miserably with all kinds of games. We all have our favourites.
It sounds like it'll be a lot like Guild Wars, which I enjoy... except it'll keep going and going. Mouahaha!
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Star Wars: The Old Republic: Star Wars Old Republic MMO To Be "Microtransaction-Based"

EA has hinted that the game will microtransaction based. Basically instead of earning that awesome lightsaber, you can just pay 10 bucks for it. If this turns out to be true, I'm passing on this game.
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Great comments, Drider. I hope this game doesn't suck. I'd love to play a MMO in the Star Wars universe, regardless of time frame.

cybermike, I hope it simply means they're going with a pay-per-hour or pay per quest system or something. I wouldn't mind that. It basically means you pay for what you do, rather than pay the same amount as everyone else even though I sometimes play WoW 10 hours a week, when some kids play that much every day. Having to pay for gear or other such privileges would really suck .
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:56 AM   #10 (permalink)
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What happened to KotOR 3? How many people would've rather had KotOR 3 than this? I would much rather have KotOR 3.
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Old 12-15-2008, 10:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I guess KotOR 3 will never happen, Eso. I think they opted for a never-ending MMO instead of finishing one of the coolest Star Wars stories ever. I wanted to go to the edge of space with Revan....it all feels so unfulfilled!
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