07-09-2008, 08:04 AM | #1 (permalink) | |
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Quest for the perfect chocolate chip cookie
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Chocolate Chips Cookies Recipe by Jacques Torres click to show I'm no baker. I can't really do anything that requires exact measurements and putting into the oven. I like to peak too much, and seeing in through the window doesn't satisfy me. I need to see inside clearly. But I never thought about the salt content of cookies. I know now after doing much food research that salt is an important product of cooking even if something is sweetened with sugars.
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07-09-2008, 08:34 AM | #2 (permalink) |
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
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Modal ontological cookie argument (based on the work of St. Anselm of Canterbury):
1. Imagine C, a perfect cookie. 2. C is, by definition, a confection than which nothing greater can be conceived (imagined). 3. Existence in reality is greater than existence in the mind. 4. C must exist in reality, if C did not then C would not be that which nothing greater can be conceived (imagined). |
07-09-2008, 09:03 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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Ah, but Plato argued that there exists in the abstract a perfect and ideal cookie, greater than which it is impossible for any other cookie--real or otherwise--to be. While a recipe for this abstract ideal cookie may exist, it is impossible to make it into a "real" perfect cookie, for the process of actually mixing and baking translates the ideal into its inevitably imperfect physical form. While it may in fact be a very, very good cookie, its very temporality and transience differentiate it from the abstraction of fundamental and ideal cookieness.
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07-09-2008, 09:30 AM | #4 (permalink) |
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One of the first things I learned to bake was a chocolate chip cookie using the Toll House recipe. We baked them constantly when I was younger--I come from a long line of bakers on my mother's side, and this was considered the introductory recipe, to learn the basics of baking. Our strategy usually involved making enough dough for a couple of batches--one we would bake straight off, and others we would bake later. Yes, the dough changes over time. I definitely prefer a chocolate chip cookie whose dough has had time to sit and chill--perhaps that is the beauty of the commercially-made Otis Spunkmeyer cookie; it spends a lot of time chilling.
To me, the perfect chocolate chip cookie is the one I'm eating. At that moment, as it melts in my mouth--it is cookie nirvana. Obviously I have some go-to cookies for cookie nirvana--a number of bakeries here in town make chocolate chip cookies beyond compare, and I do like my own a lot.
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07-09-2008, 02:21 PM | #5 (permalink) |
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So many great chocolate chip cookies. So little time.
Salt is required in order to have crispocity in your cookie.
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07-09-2008, 02:27 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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I didn't realize that it was part of the chemistry. I was astounded by the photo, those big crystals of salt are amazingly tempting!
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07-09-2008, 02:36 PM | #7 (permalink) | |
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I too am tempted to try the sea salt on cookie. Looks yummy.
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07-11-2008, 11:33 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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salt in chocolate baked goods...gives it the extra tang.
Will be trying this recipe...with a few modifications sadly (some ingredients I can't get here!). Will come back with news.
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07-11-2008, 01:37 PM | #10 (permalink) |
Tilted Cat Head
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really.. you can't just post that link and walk away with not a single photo of such description... I mean it's not like you saw bigfoot or something...
it looks and sounds oddly scrumptious.
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07-11-2008, 02:23 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
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07-11-2008, 03:48 PM | #12 (permalink) | |
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I have been playing with this recipe over the last little while with excellent results.
I usually let my dough rest for a few hours but am going to try the 36 route. I will also add that salt is the key to a great tasting cookie. I've even added more to some recipes (with mixed results). Quote:
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07-11-2008, 04:12 PM | #13 (permalink) |
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So I just finished cookies for my neighbor. The original Tollhouse recipe, with coconut and dried cherries added into the mix. Theyre really quite fab.
Thanks for the inspiration.
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08-20-2008, 08:05 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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I decided to gives these a try one night...
(I skipped the glaze) The bacon was actually a pretty subtle flavor for the most part. I used maple cured bacon, so it had a sweeter flavor compared to a strong smoky bacon. If you went out of the way to savor the cookie and break down the flavors the mix of white, semi-sweet chocolate and bacon were easy to identify. The recipe also called for almond extract which really brought out an amaretto like aroma, very pronounced when mixing, quite a bit more subtle out of the oven. Overall, the pairing was very similar chocolate covered pretzels; a sweet and savory mix. The texture of the cookies was really nice as well, had a definite "chunk" factor to them which was a bit unexpected considering the lack of nuts. These were very rich cookies, but not overwhelmingly sweet. I'm not gonna say everyone will love these cookies, seriously if you are Jewish and diabetic stay far away, but I think most people will enjoy them if they approach them with an open mind. Out of 10 people that tried them, the worst reaction I got was that they were just ok. Most of the responses were in the neighborhood of "fuck me these are pretty damn good." -----Added 21/8/2008 at 12 : 11 : 32----- I really do like the basic tollhouse recipe, but I do add an extra 1/4 cup of flour to it for a bit more body. Also tried the addition of kosher salt on top and really liked how it worked out. Last edited by Shagg; 08-20-2008 at 08:11 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
08-20-2008, 08:14 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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Short of extracicating and putting to practice the above recipes, I find that my standard for a "superb chocolate chip cookie" revolves around the familiar notion of the Entenmann's brand.
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