I think Ashlee is hotter than Jessica but I hate them both and I am very glad she got caught lip synching. What a bitch. Too many excuses. This remind anyone of "oh it was a wardrobe malfunction"?

A professional musician would never have just walked off the stage. The show must go on.......

:lol: :lol: :thumbsup:

She doesn't quite strike me as smarter....than anything. Maybe a rock. Maybe.

I don't know how many of you watch any "reality tv" but there was this show on MTV called the Ashlee Simpson show. I saw a commercial for it once and she really cannot sing. The SNL mishap came as no suprise to me. serves her right. she thinks she's entitled to a music career since her sister can sing. but she forgot one thing. you have to know how to sing to be a singer.

lol she said it was acid reflux that made her lose her voice earlier in the day. what crap

Yes, I realized that after I posted it. I had read all the posts on the first page and did not see that there was a second page of posts. But thanks for pointing it out. :rolleyes: By the way, you misspelled "allready".

The funniest thing about the whole situation was her dance. We all know Britney can't sing, but at least she can dance. Ashlee can't even do that.

Who cares?

A LOT of the big "singers" lipsync concerts, includng Janet Jackson, Shania Twain, even Britney Spears. Maybe it was acid reflux, maybe somthing wrong did happen. Jesus, you don't even know her, you don't have to watch her, and here you are tearing her apart for somthing maybe she coulden't control? Hell, the only guy NOT lipsyncing the superbowl last year was Kid Rock.

It's not that big of a deal, lots of these stars do it. Watch some of those shows about Britney and other up and coming stars, you learn alot about what these stars go through during performing, it's not that big of a surprise she was lipsyncing..

On the other hand, it was damn funny.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Brilliant.

I cannot see how people don’t expect this out of many artists. They are seen delivery countless perfect performances every night in perfect tune. When I attend a concert it isn’t to hear what I can listen to at home, it is to hear the raw power of a performance going on in front of me. The possibility of mistakes additions and the emotion of the members on stage coming through at that moment. Recorded performances are formulated some times of hundreds of takes to get the right tune. Watching too media as I do, I caught the Ashlee Simpson show which I am sure many of these “angry” fans storming her website I’m sure have seen. It was made evident on the show that the consistency and strength of her voice was a major issue. Even after a growth was found in her throat she was able to deliver a great performance a few nights after. I can think of countless artists that have had to cancel months of touring because of vocal problem.

Yet in the fast paced candle length longevity of pop artists it is the fans of such and record labels who are at fault for performances packaged with sparklers, snakes, and explosions with no real content from what you are there to see. The fan artist relationship is that of any other, you are going to have good times and bad. The lee-way to cancel a leg of a tour has not show itself prevalent in the bubble-gum music industry. But out of sight out of mind? As long as these fans are given the illusion that their artist is before them singing their heart out its fine. Its all simply denial, just as magic with sexy assistance, flashy machinery, and brilliant wordplay all draw you away from the deception at hand allow you to feel a moment of wonder. Yet that is the job of a magician. That is why people support a magician’s performances. People know that artists are lip syncing, you know which ones.

So why are these artists allowed to continue on this rampage of falsehood. Because fans continue to support it, like voters support bad politicians. There are great artists out there, yet you have to look for them, the good things in life aren’t going to be packaged pretty and given to you. You have to search for them, the voices you don’t hear on the radio are built on live performances and rigorous touring, of many different genres. Riding the roller coaster I guess you could say that all the work is done for you. Just coast along an get up on the next big high. If you want to be close to an artist and see the drive of day after day of performing not for money or fame but for the passion of doing so search the internet, check out mp3 sites, and support those who are in it for the music and not the package. Tell your friends, family, and kids, go to a local venue, you’ll hear sounds and sights you’ve never seen before in the bubblegum world.

With the diversity of music out there you can find something geared towards you and not the masses, not a culture, not a dollar sign, but you. Sure some may legitimately like pop music, and yet they may miss an entire musical world, there are underground pop, hip-hop, rap, rock, and more artists that offer the same only with substance and not a package. Just with any movement, you want to end lip syncing and other crap currently spouted by the record industry, its going to start with you, your kids, your neighbors, your friends, and strangers.

Nice picture that rocks. After the performance she put in on Monday night I wish she was lip-synching again, my god she has no talent at all, she can't even scream with a hint of talent. Watching SNL was great because well I like to see stars (she isn't a star) get busted for doing stupid shit, and too see if they take responsibility for their fuck upo and low and behold she and her dad blame it on the drummer.

I can't believe I typed something in an Ashlee Simpson thread now I must go and re-contemplate my life.

What show was that?

Shania doesn't lipsync in concert. I saw her on her last tour, front row, and she definitely sings live.

Shania does lipsync on shows like Top of the Pops, however, but so does every other artist.

But then they arent artists. I have never ever seen a band live who lip synched and if they did I would throw someones shoe at them.

I'll give you a hint: It's a daytime talk show watched by 20 million people daily.

THE ROSIE O DONELL SHOW!! :D

Asta!!

Actually, she made her national debut on 7th heaven, and shoved her singing down everyone's throat by getting her show on MTV since she was on 7th heaven. But my point was that SNL does not have to have someone just because they were on MTV, and that show has 0 affiliation with MTV.




Wait wait wait... you think Ashlee has a "fantasic voice"? Are you serious? You have to be just trolling to try and make me upset, there is no way you can believe that screaming into a microphone for cookie cutter teeniebop songs can be considered "fantastic". If you seriously think her voice is as good as the other people you mentioned, you... no, you're just wrong. It's not even an opinion, you are flat out wrong. I'm a vocal performance major in college, trust me, I know what constitues talented singing and a fantastic voice. She screams. Notice how she ALWAYS has a sore throat and a messed up voice? That isn't a coincidence. Did you even watch her show? Perhaps the episode where she was recording her album, and she couldn't even sing her song in the studio? You've gotta be joking. And no, i'm not going to "deal with it and move on". It's my life passion, maybe something you don't understand. I can make more musical tones come out of my ass, where's my contract and millions of dollars?

As far as Alicia Keys goes, where do you get YOUR information? As far as I can tell, from her website/other websites, she writes all her own stuff. You do not realize how hard it is to sing and play the piano as well as she does.

http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/artis...tistID=1034214

She started piano at age 7. She was classically trained, including the study of Bach, Mozart, Chopin (her favorite composer). She has sung most of her life, and played the piano most of her life. She writes all her own music. So, I gave a source that told about her life, where are the support of these "facts" you stated, or did you just assume to try to defend yourself? Come on.

I really want to know if you think Ashlee Simpson has the same musical talent of someone that attended the Performing Arts School of Manhattan, and has dedicated her life to music. Ashlee was probably singing (read: screaming) in the shower one day after 7th heaven and heard Britney on her stupid radio and was like HEY! I sing like crap and am hot too! Surely I can get a contract!

That entire side of the industry makes me sick. So do the people who support the crap. I don't care who you blame it on, it isn't right.

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Did she perform on the music awards on monday or tuesday? What was her performance like then?

Yes, terrible. She apparently got a shot for her voice. Funny, she had the same problem twice on her tv show!

Oooo...prah.

The place of my work is a poorly kept secret for sure.

Hook a brother up with a free car!

^ You catch Josh Groban on Oprah the other day? My mom did and Tivo'd it for me to hear it. Now he can sing. Even Tom Hanks was a little moved during the performance. Where did that guy come from? I don't know too much about the dude.

Asta!!

I was in the studio that day. We ended up retaping the song, but I don't know why. He sounded good the first time. (These singers usually have some person who nitpicks the shit out of everything and wants stuff redone).

Hmm that is unusual. Well guy did a good job.

Asta!!

Josh Groban is one of my favorite singers. He's an actual musician, and is really talented. Good stuff. If someone tells me Ashlee is as good a musician for him, I might really cry IRL.

I never knew he was a musician as well. What does he play? On Oprah he had someone accompany him on the piano....So I assumed he is unable to play that....or is it that he is unable to sing and play at the same time or he just prefers not to? Either way he has more talent than most.

Asta!!

He can and does play the piano, but he is primarily just a singer. He co-wrote a few of his songs on his newest album as well. He turned down Carnegie for a recording contract though, so again, primarily just a singer.

He was accompanied by a live pianist as well as a recording backing track (w/o vocals I may add). Like most Oprah guests, he had the lyrics in the teleprompter, but usually that's more of a safety net for the singers.

fyi - drudge is reporting that 60 minutes was there at SNL filming a story about behind the scenes at SNL that will air on Sun - they filmed the who incident from behind the stage - might be kinda interesting to watch...

Yup, I just saw a promo about it on the tube.
It showed Ashlee walking around in a huff and backstage crew members scrambling around looking to find an exit. :p


By the way Derwood, is there any way you can tell me when they're going to re-air the Josh Groban episode?

I like the way the guy carries a tune. :thumbsup:

I wish I knew actually, because I missed it tuesday. I only wanted to see it again because I'm in one of the "bumpers" for a second. Bumpers are the 5 second tape piece that leads in out of commercials. This season, they are all pieces of people "working around the studio", so there is one of the stage manager counting down, some of the control room, and then one of me running a spotlight. I saw it the day we taped, but haven't seen it during a show yet.

Best I can tell you is that on www.oprah.com there is a link that says "This Week on Oprah" that tells you that weeks shows. They will re-run some shows during Christmas time.

Cool. I think Shania was on that show twice. Was it her most recent appearance when she was on with Dolly Parton?

And do you have any juicy backstage gossip about Shania? :p

Appreciate it, Derwood. Thanks. :)

Some people is suprised that she mimes her songs... FFS every singer does it!!! nobody bitches at any other crap singer. Are people so dumb that they cant work out when a radio edit is playing.

And when she is responsible for operating the studio equipment herself then you can label this as being her fault.

Anyway, I love it when this happens cause it shows that you should always sing live.

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Haha, I love it. I highly dislike that tart. It serves her right, when she tries to be so "real". It really annoys me her riding on the coattails of her horrible sister. And their Dad creeps me out, how he manages every aspect of their lives, and gave Jessica a promise ring not to have sex. Ugh.

Her complete lack of professionalism got me the most.
She showed her idiocy by jumping around like a fool.
She showed no respect to the band when she walked off. That was incredibley arrogent, and then to blame them!! The audacity of that bitch, stunned me. What incredible gall.

I blame the greater audiance though. We (whoever we are) are allowing frauds like her and her ilk to sell millions of records. The radio is overflowing with the same shit, and real musicians are harder and harder to find in the mix. The teenage girls, whoever, is buying this crap, is to blame.

If the audiance was failing to pay for this shit, by holding artists to higher standards, it would go away. Ashlee sold a shitload of albums to some group of "music appreciaters." Someone made money of her awful voice. I mean, god, to digress for a second...she sounds BAD. Really, really bad. Even on the radio, in overly massaged vocals it's clear she can not sing. But still she sells boatloads of CDs....

I think one facet of our RIAA friends current "disaster" is that the vast majority are NOT supporting fucktards like her, and that is accounting for a major loss in CD sales. I don't want her shit, and I'm not going to buy it. I don't know anyone in, or near, my age range (I'm 27) that would buy an Ashlee S album. Pop is narrowly focused on 14 year old girls. They can only buy so much.

I will buy Eminem's new album, coming out 11-16-04, that'll be the first album I've purchased in....um........ah......wait.......um......shit.....I know there was...wait, no.....but......no.....um........ahh........crud........ah.....um.......OH. no, shit...........um.....

I'm pretty sure it was Outkast's "Speakerboxx." Before that I honestly don't remember, but at some point I did buy Korn's "Take a look in the mirror." Maybe, I've bought 6 albums in the last 2 years. Maybe...

Either way,
Ahslee should be ashamed, but I don't think she'd understand why.

If I have a teenage girl, she will be grounded for months before she ever buys anything like that. MONTHS.