choskins

Did anyone see this? She came out to sing her second song. The band starting playing, she started dancing, then a voice track came on for the first song she sang. She looked around, laughed and walked off stage. Did she just get busted lip syncing?

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SteelGlider

Yes, I do believe she just pulled her own Milli Vanilli.

Jeff

I didn't see it, I'd LOVE to see this video of this though.

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pan6467

LOL..... SNL USED to advertise they didn't have lip-synching.... how the mighty have fallen

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choskins

She said during the closing that the band started playing the wrong song, so she just walked off. however, the voice track was for the first song she sang that night. Was she planning on singing it again?

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SteelGlider

Somebody must have cued up the wrong vocal track, or the machine did, or however they do it. Most bands I know would just stop and start again if they started playing something wrong....but if your singer can't really sing, then I guess they would walk off stage, lol.

Jeff

Damn, I had a link to the video, but it died.I'll post one, if I find another.

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Nimbletoe

Hahahahhahaha, serves the whore right.

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Paradise Lost

I can't believe she would just walk off stage, at least the band could play their instruments
and at least try to put the thing back together.

KMA-628

I just saw that on Tivo, that was hilarious.

Ooops - - cut to commercial, no second song

trickyy

that's pretty funny, what kind of a goofy jig/skip/dance is going on there?

i don't remember this happening before on the show. i would think they could restart and re-edit for the western time zones. did they play the mistake in the later broadcasts?

kind of a cheap lip sync, you know...i don't think she dances as intensely as other pop artists. so singing *should* be easier.

Xepidemic

that sucks for her! nice little dance she did there! to bad it will probably be edited here on the west coast...

Fremen

Kudos to Jeff for getting the clip up first.

Here's a little clearer clip...
http://www.collegehumor.com/news/ashlee_snl.wmv

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ChrisJericho

I saw it here in Seattle, the recorded vocals were definitely there because I was thinking to myself "Wasn't that the first song she played?."

Personally, I think it's pretty shady to blame your screw up on the band, they obviously were playing the right song.

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Jeff

That doesn't work for me,


And I really hate that fuckin Irish jig she does.

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Mr.Deflok

Oh man.... man, there's nothing else one can say at a time like this.... but... it's just one word....

OWNED!!!11

sgn43

I'm in CA, and when I saw it, I didn't hear the vocal track kick in, but I saw the clip on the net and I couldn't stop laughing. As much as I hate manufactured pop music like hers, I can't help but feel bad for the girl. That's a huge screw up on a huge stage in front of the entire country...and then to come back with "my band played the wrong song"....how in the world do you live that down.

maleficent

Why do I get the feeling she'll be the subject of a SNL skit in a few weeks.. if it takes that long....

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Zubon

I didn't hear a vocal track when I watched it. It sounded like backup music, then they play the guitars and sing over it.

Meh. SNL's people messed up her song.

choskins

They must have edited it Zubon. Did you watch it on the west coast?

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choskins

Here is the latest:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/goss...p-210457c.html

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james t kirk

First off, I am not sure who this girl is, therefore, I am old, but besides that, she must be another Brittany clone.

Whatever.

The really really really sad part of all this......

SNL is inviting such dip shits to play on the show.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Used to be you could see REM, U2, the Stones, et al on SNL.

Now, you have some teeny bopper crapola.

Derwood

She wasn't lip-synching. She was singing over a track of her own voice. It happens all the time on the TV show I work for. Whenever we have pop artists on performing, they always sing live over a track of their own voice.

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Ace_O_Spades

Arghhh! Goddamn search not working!

Yeah I saw this, it was almost painful to watch

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Stompy

That's like claiming a person can actually draw when all they do is trace.

You sing the parts that are very easy to sing, but let the background take care of the parts where you have the possibility of slipping up... like high notes or drawn out breaths, etc.

Just as bad as lip synching!

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meanSpleen

I think the idea is to play it out loud to the audience, and directly into the artists ear. That way they can get a performance that is closer to the album/recorded version that the masses really want to hear.

Its not fun to go listen to a band/artist and have them do a song that comes out completely different than what you were expecting. Possibly due to missing their cues and just hitting the wrong notes

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trickyy

thanks for the video links...someone hijacked the content on the last two, though

edit: this guy has clips
clips of stewart on crossifre and triumph included as a bonus

sure, blame the band. like touring musicians don't get crapped on already.

Ace_O_Spades

I disagree

I find this is what makes live performances creative and interesting... Letting the artists just go out and jam, have some fun, improvise a little.

That's what live music is all about.

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choskins

Quote of the Day !!!

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anleja

um, Jeff's "simpsonfuckup" link in post #15 is NOT what I wanted to ever see, EVER. Ugh, vomit.

Derwood

Many singers (like Beyonce, for example) have multiple vocal tracks on their albums, and the networks want a performance that is as close to that as possible. Thus, they sing one of the tracks live, and the others are on track.

It's just the way it is. Ashlee was just the one caught at it. It's not cheating and it's not lip-synching. Britney lip-synchs (ie her mic is off, it's all off the track, and her lips barely match what is being sung). It's easy to tell the difference.

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Nimbletoe

You are missing the point. There is no reason a true musician should have to listen to their pre recorded crap to be able to sing it similarly to how it sounds on their CD. Ever heard Josh Groban sing? It's identical basically. You know why? Because he can SING. It is one thing if you are dancing, and cannot keep enough breath to dance at the rate you are and sing the whole song. But Ashlee Simpson does not dance. Well, unless you call doing a jig like a good dancing. She doesn't even move much, and she still needs to karaoke her own damn song. Pathetic. She has no business performing music, and can only make a career out of it because society is so obsessed with something we have little control over: looks. It drives me up the wall.

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Seething

Blaming it on the band was the worst part. It's one thing to fuck up and apologize for it. It's another to fuck up and blame it on someone else (who were doing what they were supposed to do). The wrong song was cued up (vocal track or not) and they started playing along to it. As for the lip synching, I'm reminded of a Family Guy episode...

"Hey, you're not really playing that. You're just a big fat phony! PHONY! PHONY!"

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Derwood

Well she isn't a true musician, so there you go.

You also can't put the same rules of performance on all forms of music. Pop music has it's own set of rules.

On the TV show I work for, Shania Twain performed to a track, and her band basically, well, "band-synched". Amps off, drums muted, etc. She sang, but the band was just there for show. Of course, you can argue whether she is Country or just Nashville Pop.

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Derwood

Plus EVERYONE on our TV show has the lyrics in a teleprompter.

ALso reminds me of a White Zombie concert I went to about 6 or 7 years ago. They had a huge amount of prerecorded track going on. THere were times when the guitar and bass players stopped playing, but you still heard guitar and bass.

This was no different. Band was playing over a track of themselves.

The big key is that usually the vocal track is just fed into the ear monitors of the artist, not into the TV feed. Bad job by the sound guys at SNL.

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Jeff

Oh god, I'm sorry. The host changed the file. I'll edit my posts.

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Willravel

Who on MTV is a real musician? This isn't 1984. It's fake. Did you miss the fax?

opackfan

i prefer to refer to this incident as ASHLEE SIMPSOWNED! thank you! i'm hear all night

choskins

Funny! Simpsowned!

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Nimbletoe

Last I checked, SNL wasn't on MTV.

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