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Slavakion · 05-12-2004, 05:51 PM

Maybe it's just me, but why why why wasn't Jasmine in the bottom two tonight? If I didn't have the need to see who wins, I'd just stop watching right now.

EDIT: Good Captain Christ, they are such morons. The person they voted off was, in my opinion, one of the top two. (Omitting name in case it's tape delayed -- I don't know)

By the way, sorry that there's already a general AI topic. Didn't see it until too late.

/venting of rage

mr sticky · 05-12-2004, 06:04 PM

Slava, I just sworn off watching this show for the rest of the season!

I mean WTF?

onodrim · 05-12-2004, 06:11 PM

I've been watching this season mainly because there was some honestly good talent....and they both just ended up in the bottom two with the best of all of them leaving. I have now officially lost all interest in the show, and I doubt I'll watch it from now on. I'll just find out who wins from the papers. I honestly can't comprehend the way the results went tonight. It's really rather pathetic. I share your frustrations completely.

Batman976 · 05-12-2004, 06:12 PM

I agree that Fantasia should have been in the bottom two, but it should have been Jasmine there with her. Diana has slowly worked her way into a front runner for me. I couldn't stand her at the beginning of the series, now I love her. It's just the opposite for Fantasia, in my opinion.

Jeff · 05-12-2004, 06:34 PM

You wanna talk about America being populated by morons with bad taste? Let's talk about those that actually watch this shit.

Jay kay.

Batman976 · 05-12-2004, 07:09 PM

Better American Idol than The Swan.

fnaqzna · 05-12-2004, 07:35 PM

This just in... Pop music appeals to the lowest common denominator.

Fremen · 05-12-2004, 08:56 PM

So, who lost tonight?
I slept through it.

Batman976 · 05-12-2004, 09:36 PM

Spoiler: LaToya

viper11885 · 05-12-2004, 10:48 PM

I didn't watch it. But saw on their forums on the results. Quite shocked to see that one of the singers I thought had the most talent was voted off. I definately thought that it would be a race between Latoya and Diana.

WarWagon · 05-12-2004, 11:20 PM

This show is still on?

Buk · 05-12-2004, 11:47 PM

This kind of thing happens because casual viewers don't vote, only the most hardcore viewers do, and they usually have a favorite that they will vote for no matter how badly they do. Their only reason to vote is to keep this person on the show for another week. If they don't have this fanatical following then they can't compete... Latoya never seemed to have that, and 3 weeks ago Jennifer Hudson suffered from the same problem.

Say what you will, Latoya may have had talent, but I got the impression that she had no clue what to do with it beyond sing what was put in front of her...

Of course I am one of those people who don't vote. /shrug

onetime2 · 05-13-2004, 04:10 AM

I am still of the belief that the "voting" is rigged. On just about every occasion the option that would cause the most controversy and cause the most people to talk about it happens. Personally, I like Jasmine. She's not the best singer but she's got a far better personality than the others who are left. Fantasia is terrible IMO as she's got a very nasally singing voice that just grates on me. Latoya was the best of the remaining 4 as far as singing goes. Their strategy may be that the winning contestant from the other seasons got a bit overexposed and their albums didn't perform exceptionally (especially when you consider how much press they got) yet the contestants who were near the top but didn't win had pretty impressive album sales. They're trying to build public outrage (or at least dissatisfaction) so Latoya's and Jennifer Hudson's albums will sell better.

clonmult · 05-13-2004, 04:30 AM

Fantasia seems to have gone down in my opinion ... Jasmine is okay, but why did they choose such a lousy bunch?

John wossisface, the redhead was terrible at almost all points. No major personality, no singing ability (other than the lounge lizard style), not even obviously good looking.

JPL was also a pretty bad singer - couldn't hold a note, but at least had a bit of personality.

The big guy seemed to be the best of the lot, but got booted out.

Regardless of the voting and whos in/out, they'll all stand a chance of getting a recording contract out of the whole show.

Wonder what the tie-ins are though - do they have to sign with a label related to the show, and go with Simons 19 management team? I'm intrigued ....

onetime2 · 05-13-2004, 04:38 AM

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Originally posted by clonmult
Fantasia seems to have gone down in my opinion ... Jasmine is okay, but why did they choose such a lousy bunch?

John wossisface, the redhead was terrible at almost all points. No major personality, no singing ability (other than the lounge lizard style), not even obviously good looking.

JPL was also a pretty bad singer - couldn't hold a note, but at least had a bit of personality.

The big guy seemed to be the best of the lot, but got booted out.

Regardless of the voting and whos in/out, they'll all stand a chance of getting a recording contract out of the whole show.

Wonder what the tie-ins are though - do they have to sign with a label related to the show, and go with Simons 19 management team? I'm intrigued ....

I'm sure that a certain number of the top vote getters (maybe the top 5) have to sign with him and then there's probably a "right of refusal" clause where Simon's label gets the first shot at a number of the others and, should the label pass, they could go on to others. The contract with his label may be limited though because I just heard on the radio that Clay Aiken is shopping for agents (or signed with agents) who will get him print ad and acting work.

I do agree with you about why they've gotten down to such meager talents when there were quite a few throughout the audition and competition phases that I think performed better. Of course the judges are the "pros" and they could never be wrong (at least in their minds).

Fremen · 05-13-2004, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Batman976
Spoiler: LaToya

Gracias.

gmoot · 05-13-2004, 10:54 AM

I'm of the mindset lately that the whole contest is a setup. America may vote, and those votes may influence how the show's producers choose the outcome of the competition, but they do not decide it.

LaToya and Fantasia were bottom two last night because its been clear from the beginning that the judges want one of them to win. It's the same reason Jennifer got the boot a few weeks ago. 3 very talented women will split the vote and weaken them all. So will 2. If either one is going to have any chance of beating Diana (who for the last few weeks the judges have been trying to convince America is a serious contender to win), then one needs to take a dive. Personally, I wish they had chosen LaToya to be the winner, because Fantasia's voice just drives me up the wall.

kutulu · 05-13-2004, 11:14 AM

AI is such a terrible way to estblish music. What the fuck happened to respecting the real musicans who actually learn to play instruments and *gasp* write their own songs? What happened to people struggling for their art? Tour the country in a smelly van and build a real fan base.

I hate pop music. It's such a talent vaccum

onetime2 · 05-13-2004, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kutulu
AI is such a terrible way to estblish music. What the fuck happened to respecting the real musicans who actually learn to play instruments and *gasp* write their own songs? What happened to people struggling for their art? Tour the country in a smelly van and build a real fan base.

I hate pop music. It's such a talent vaccum

Well, some of them do make it through the process. Kimberly Locke supposedly wrote the vast majority of her songs and I even like one of them (gasp). But I agree, it's weird to see so many contenders in there that have nowhere near the level of skill and experience so many others do.

Batman976 · 05-13-2004, 12:19 PM

I've never watched it, but I hear Nashville Star contestants write their own songs and play instruments.

I busted out my DVD of season 1 of American Idol, and I gotta say, those contestants were leaps and bounds above this years contestants. They all had a lot more personality too. I didn't watch season 2, but man, has this show gone downhill.

cherriesue · 05-13-2004, 12:33 PM

How is this show still on?

matteo101 · 05-13-2004, 01:26 PM

Good god did Jasmine have a bad performance on tuesday, then to make it... When she was celebrating I was about to snap. Fantasia hopefully will win, personally i don't give a shit, winning Americon Idol means shit, look at Reuben...

illesturban · 05-25-2004, 07:33 PM

I don't think it's fair to criticise the contestants on AI. Lets face it, for the most part, most of them have some sort of talent. I know for one thing, Tamyra, my favorite from season 1 wrote all 13 or however many songs on her new cd and even co-wrote the single for this year's winner. I think it's a great way for great talent to find their way to success.

Anyways, if Fantasia does not win after those final two songs she sung tonight I'll be pissed. She had me MOVED with that last song she sang man. And her rendition of Summertime is my favorite song she sung this season so I'm glad she did that. I'm still bitter LaToya wasn't there with her but this will just make it easier hopefully for a great singer to win....hopefully.

Anyways yeah she killed it tonight, I mean it was the BOMB. Just great; especially the last song. She better win dammit!

Derwood · 05-26-2004, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherriesue
How is this show still on?

I don't know, maybe because a quadrillion people watch it every week? Duh.

If a quadrillion people watched an hour of paint drying every week, that would also be on every season.

Fremen · 05-26-2004, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Derwood
I don't know, maybe because a quadrillion people watch it every week? Duh.

If a quadrillion people watched an hour of paint drying every week, that would also be on every season.

You better get that idea written down and notarized before some dickweed in Hollyweird steals it.

MexicanOnABike · 05-26-2004, 02:41 PM

someone probably said this but i'm too lazy to read them all.
America is populated by morons, the same kind of morons who think of these stupid shows in the first place! theres so many "reality shows" that it's sick! i've stoped watching TV completely after Angel ended on wednesday. it's all the same crap over and over! "oh look! another survivor(up to 9) another american idol(up to 4?)" I MEAN GET ORIGINAL WITH THE TV! bring back shows like seindfeld, the simpsons, family guy, futurama, friends, angel, buffy, STTNG, DS9, and a few more i can't name right now. i know some might not agree but thats what i watched. (mostly all canceled now.)

MexicanOnABike · 05-26-2004, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Derwood
I don't know, maybe because a quadrillion people watch it every week? Duh.

If a quadrillion people watched an hour of paint drying every week, that would also be on every season.

thats the problem. If there was only QUALITY shows on tv and QUALITY movies, idiots would watch those and they'd get smarter!

ex: how many idiots died trying to imitate jackass?

warrrreagl · 05-26-2004, 08:11 PM

And the new joke goes something like this:

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be ... Fantasia Barrino.

Or maybe I'm the only one who is monumentally annoyed with the nasal sound of her quack, er I mean, voice.

illesturban · 05-26-2004, 09:01 PM

^hey, change the damn channel. I mean dang... lmao.

Darklight Adept · 05-26-2004, 10:01 PM

My Wife watches this show every week, and on my day off (wednesdays) I got to watch the results shows with her. To tell you the truth, I'm of the following that believes it's rigged. The top contenders get kicked off so they can start work on production earlier (Latoya/Jennifer)

But seriously, what kind of crack-smoker likes Fantasia's Voice?

And Diana, eh, she can do great every now and then...

But seriously, if the show hadn't been rigged, Latoya would have won.

Well, the other portion of the rigging is in the allowing of multiple calls by those fanatical idiots that will sit there for the whole 2 hours redialing that number to vote for their favorite.

ALL MY VOTES ARE GOING TO such and such...damn, this show might be plausible if they only alllowed one vote per phone number.

matteo101 · 05-27-2004, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darklight Adept

But seriously, what kind of crack-smoker likes Fantasia's Voice?

Millions of americans! I do to, I think she has a great voice.

05-12-2004, 05:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Slavakion Mjollnir Incarnate Location: Lost in thought	American Idol or Why America is Populated by Morons With Bad Taste Maybe it's just me, but why why why wasn't Jasmine in the bottom two tonight? If I didn't have the need to see who wins, I'd just stop watching right now. EDIT: Good Captain Christ, they are such morons. The person they voted off was, in my opinion, one of the top two. (Omitting name in case it's tape delayed -- I don't know) By the way, sorry that there's already a general AI topic. Didn't see it until too late. /venting of rage Last edited by Slavakion; 05-12-2004 at 06:02 PM..

05-12-2004, 06:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
mr sticky Psycho Location: NC	Slava, I just sworn off watching this show for the rest of the season! I mean WTF? __________________ The sad thing is... as you get older you come to realize that you don't so much pilot your life, as you just try to hold on, in a screaming, defiant ball of white-knuckle anxious fury

05-12-2004, 06:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
onodrim Cosmically Curious Location: Chicago, IL	I've been watching this season mainly because there was some honestly good talent....and they both just ended up in the bottom two with the best of all of them leaving. I have now officially lost all interest in the show, and I doubt I'll watch it from now on. I'll just find out who wins from the papers. I honestly can't comprehend the way the results went tonight. It's really rather pathetic. I share your frustrations completely. __________________ "The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there’s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides" -Carl Sagan

05-12-2004, 06:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Batman976 is you wicked? Location: I live in a giant bucket.	I agree that Fantasia should have been in the bottom two, but it should have been Jasmine there with her. Diana has slowly worked her way into a front runner for me. I couldn't stand her at the beginning of the series, now I love her. It's just the opposite for Fantasia, in my opinion. __________________ The following statement is true. The preceding statement was false.

05-12-2004, 06:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jeff And we'll all float on ok... Location: Iowa City	You wanna talk about America being populated by morons with bad taste? Let's talk about those that actually watch this shit. Jay kay. __________________ For those who believe in God, most of the big questions are answered. But for those of us who can't readily accept the God formula, the big answers don't remain stone-written. We adjust to new conditions and discoveries. We are pliable. Love need not be a command or faith a dictum. I am my own God. We are here to unlearn the teachings of the church, state, and our educational system. We are here to drink beer. We are here to kill war. We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us. --Charles Bukowski

05-12-2004, 07:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
Batman976 is you wicked? Location: I live in a giant bucket.	Better American Idol than The Swan. __________________ The following statement is true. The preceding statement was false.

05-12-2004, 07:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
fnaqzna Meat Popsicle Location: Left Coast	This just in... Pop music appeals to the lowest common denominator.

05-12-2004, 08:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	So, who lost tonight? I slept through it. __________________ Google

05-12-2004, 09:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Batman976 is you wicked? Location: I live in a giant bucket.	Spoiler: LaToya __________________ The following statement is true. The preceding statement was false.

05-12-2004, 10:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
viper11885 Insane	I didn't watch it. But saw on their forums on the results. Quite shocked to see that one of the singers I thought had the most talent was voted off. I definately thought that it would be a race between Latoya and Diana.

05-12-2004, 11:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
WarWagon Loser	This show is still on?

05-12-2004, 11:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Buk Addict Location: Seattle, WA	This kind of thing happens because casual viewers don't vote, only the most hardcore viewers do, and they usually have a favorite that they will vote for no matter how badly they do. Their only reason to vote is to keep this person on the show for another week. If they don't have this fanatical following then they can't compete... Latoya never seemed to have that, and 3 weeks ago Jennifer Hudson suffered from the same problem. Say what you will, Latoya may have had talent, but I got the impression that she had no clue what to do with it beyond sing what was put in front of her... Of course I am one of those people who don't vote. /shrug

05-13-2004, 04:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
onetime2 Junkie Location: NJ	I am still of the belief that the "voting" is rigged. On just about every occasion the option that would cause the most controversy and cause the most people to talk about it happens. Personally, I like Jasmine. She's not the best singer but she's got a far better personality than the others who are left. Fantasia is terrible IMO as she's got a very nasally singing voice that just grates on me. Latoya was the best of the remaining 4 as far as singing goes. Their strategy may be that the winning contestant from the other seasons got a bit overexposed and their albums didn't perform exceptionally (especially when you consider how much press they got) yet the contestants who were near the top but didn't win had pretty impressive album sales. They're trying to build public outrage (or at least dissatisfaction) so Latoya's and Jennifer Hudson's albums will sell better. __________________ Strive to be more curious than ignorant.

05-13-2004, 04:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
clonmult Crazy Location: Wherever I lay my hind quarters	Fantasia seems to have gone down in my opinion ... Jasmine is okay, but why did they choose such a lousy bunch? John wossisface, the redhead was terrible at almost all points. No major personality, no singing ability (other than the lounge lizard style), not even obviously good looking. JPL was also a pretty bad singer - couldn't hold a note, but at least had a bit of personality. The big guy seemed to be the best of the lot, but got booted out. Regardless of the voting and whos in/out, they'll all stand a chance of getting a recording contract out of the whole show. Wonder what the tie-ins are though - do they have to sign with a label related to the show, and go with Simons 19 management team? I'm intrigued ....

05-13-2004, 10:54 AM	#17 (permalink)
gmoot Upright Location: Ohio	I'm of the mindset lately that the whole contest is a setup. America may vote, and those votes may influence how the show's producers choose the outcome of the competition, but they do not decide it. LaToya and Fantasia were bottom two last night because its been clear from the beginning that the judges want one of them to win. It's the same reason Jennifer got the boot a few weeks ago. 3 very talented women will split the vote and weaken them all. So will 2. If either one is going to have any chance of beating Diana (who for the last few weeks the judges have been trying to convince America is a serious contender to win), then one needs to take a dive. Personally, I wish they had chosen LaToya to be the winner, because Fantasia's voice just drives me up the wall.

05-13-2004, 11:14 AM	#18 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	AI is such a terrible way to estblish music. What the fuck happened to respecting the real musicans who actually learn to play instruments and gasp write their own songs? What happened to people struggling for their art? Tour the country in a smelly van and build a real fan base. I hate pop music. It's such a talent vaccum

05-13-2004, 12:19 PM	#20 (permalink)
Batman976 is you wicked? Location: I live in a giant bucket.	I've never watched it, but I hear Nashville Star contestants write their own songs and play instruments. I busted out my DVD of season 1 of American Idol, and I gotta say, those contestants were leaps and bounds above this years contestants. They all had a lot more personality too. I didn't watch season 2, but man, has this show gone downhill. __________________ The following statement is true. The preceding statement was false.

05-13-2004, 12:33 PM	#21 (permalink)
cherriesue Insane Location: trying to avoid being groped	How is this show still on? __________________ we die only once and for such a long time

05-13-2004, 01:26 PM	#22 (permalink)
matteo101 In transition Location: north, no south abit, over to the right, getting warmer...there!	Good god did Jasmine have a bad performance on tuesday, then to make it... When she was celebrating I was about to snap. Fantasia hopefully will win, personally i don't give a shit, winning Americon Idol means shit, look at Reuben...

05-25-2004, 07:33 PM	#23 (permalink)
illesturban Psycho Location: Lubbock, TX	I don't think it's fair to criticise the contestants on AI. Lets face it, for the most part, most of them have some sort of talent. I know for one thing, Tamyra, my favorite from season 1 wrote all 13 or however many songs on her new cd and even co-wrote the single for this year's winner. I think it's a great way for great talent to find their way to success. Anyways, if Fantasia does not win after those final two songs she sung tonight I'll be pissed. She had me MOVED with that last song she sang man. And her rendition of Summertime is my favorite song she sung this season so I'm glad she did that. I'm still bitter LaToya wasn't there with her but this will just make it easier hopefully for a great singer to win....hopefully. Anyways yeah she killed it tonight, I mean it was the BOMB. Just great; especially the last song. She better win dammit!

05-26-2004, 02:41 PM	#26 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	someone probably said this but i'm too lazy to read them all. America is populated by morons, the same kind of morons who think of these stupid shows in the first place! theres so many "reality shows" that it's sick! i've stoped watching TV completely after Angel ended on wednesday. it's all the same crap over and over! "oh look! another survivor(up to 9) another american idol(up to 4?)" I MEAN GET ORIGINAL WITH THE TV! bring back shows like seindfeld, the simpsons, family guy, futurama, friends, angel, buffy, STTNG, DS9, and a few more i can't name right now. i know some might not agree but thats what i watched. (mostly all canceled now.) __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

05-26-2004, 08:11 PM	#28 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	And the new joke goes something like this: If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be ... Fantasia Barrino. Or maybe I'm the only one who is monumentally annoyed with the nasal sound of her quack, er I mean, voice. __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

05-26-2004, 09:01 PM	#29 (permalink)
illesturban Psycho Location: Lubbock, TX	^hey, change the damn channel. I mean dang... lmao.

05-26-2004, 10:01 PM	#30 (permalink)
Darklight Adept Crazy Location: Houston, Tx	My Wife watches this show every week, and on my day off (wednesdays) I got to watch the results shows with her. To tell you the truth, I'm of the following that believes it's rigged. The top contenders get kicked off so they can start work on production earlier (Latoya/Jennifer) But seriously, what kind of crack-smoker likes Fantasia's Voice? And Diana, eh, she can do great every now and then... But seriously, if the show hadn't been rigged, Latoya would have won. Well, the other portion of the rigging is in the allowing of multiple calls by those fanatical idiots that will sit there for the whole 2 hours redialing that number to vote for their favorite. ALL MY VOTES ARE GOING TO such and such...damn, this show might be plausible if they only alllowed one vote per phone number.