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Fremen · 04-07-2004, 04:00 AM

I recently read a hardback copy of Timothy Zahns' "Star Wars: Survivor's Quest" (a pretty good book, imo) and noticed that the cover was attached upside down.
In other words,
If you put it in a bookcase, with the spine to where you could read it, then opened it up to read from a page, the words would be upside down.

I was wondering if a book like this would ever be considered a collectible, because of errors, or would it not be considered a "serious" enough genre to rate anything?

Also, have any of you noticed any book errors of your own?

Cynthetiq · 04-07-2004, 04:20 AM

if it's a hardbound with dustjacket first printing, you may have something truly collectible.

Otherwise, IMHO it's just something that is neat, and possibly you may find a buyer on Ebay if you marketed it right.

Bill O'Rights · 04-07-2004, 05:17 AM

It will also depend, in no small part, on the number of "defective" copies that are out there. If everyone that they printed is wrong, then...nothing. If they caught the error after, say...a couple of hundred, and of those only a few made it out of the door...then yeppers, you might have something. Just put it up somewhere, and let your great-grandkids worry about it.

Fremen · 04-07-2004, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by Cynthetiq
if it's a hardbound with dustjacket first printing, you may have something truly collectible.

Otherwise, IMHO it's just something that is neat, and possibly you may find a buyer on Ebay if you marketed it right.

It's a hardbound w/dustjacket, but I've forgotten how you tell if a book is a first edition.
Although, I suspect it is because of the adverts in the bookclub newsletter.

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Originally posted by Bill O'Rights
It will also depend, in no small part, on the number of "defective" copies that are out there. If everyone that they printed is wrong, then...nothing. If they caught the error after, say...a couple of hundred, and of those only a few made it out of the door...then yeppers, you might have something. Just put it up somewhere, and let your great-grandkids worry about it.

I think I'll just put it up like you say, 'cause I don't have any clue as to how to find out if it's one of a few, or like the whole batch.

Thank you, guys.
I appreciate the advice.

Cynthetiq · 04-07-2004, 07:38 PM

google is your friend...

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First Printing or Fifth Printing? How Can You Tell?

One of the most frequently asked questions I hear pertains to identifying first editions.

For example, a new collector recently wrote:

Hi there: I know virtually NOTHING about books and am trying to learn from your site. (Thanks for being there). I am collecting Harry Potter and on ebay.com I find a number of people referring to the "number line" being 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 in the book and therefore something special. Could you tell me what a number line is and what it means in terms of the value of the book?

A number line tells the reader to which print batch a copy belongs. If we determine that its a first edition, first printing copy, it will probably be worth more than a copy from a later edition and/or printing.

But, to really understand what this means, let's take a look at the big picture. What's an edition? What's a printing? Why does it matter?

An edition refers to all copies of a book printed at any time from one typeset and without significant changes. In the case of the Harry Potter series, the first edition of the first book was a hardcover book published by Bloomsbury in the UK. Many other editions have followed: an American edition by Scholastic, various paperback editions and even so-called collectors editions.

Impression or printing refers to all the copies printed at any one time within an edition.

So, for example, let's pretend that for the first printing of Harry Potter, the publishers produced 10,000 copies. That's the first printing. Then, after Harry became wildly popular, the publishers printed another batch of, say, 100,000 copies. The batch of 100,000 is the second printing.

Nearly all book collectors are only interested in purchasing a first edition, first printing copy of a book. In theory, this is because, the earliest copies are closest to the authors true intent, without changes, etc.

However, I think that most book collectors collect first edition, first printing copies because they're harder to come by and, thus, more valuable. In other words, it's just more fun that way. For many of us, being a book collector (as opposed to just a book reader) is as much about the thrill of the hunt as anything else.

This is why number lines are a very big deal to collectors of modern first editions. A number line is the easiest way to determine if the book is a true first or a later, less valuable printing.

So, how do you decipher the number line? Easy. The lowest number in the number line indicates which print batch the copy belongs to.

So, 123456789 shows the collector that yes, indeed, this is a first printing, as is 987654321 or even 13579864, whereas 23456789 normally indicates a second printing (Random House is an exception to this rule. On some volumes they state First Edition and start the number line with 2. Go figure.) Don't concern yourself with the order of the numbers, just look for the number 1! When publishers use letters, A=1, B=2, and so on.

That's all there is to it!

http://collectbooks.about.com/librar.../aa061001a.htm

Fremen · 04-07-2004, 07:49 PM

Yes, google is usually friendly.

I can't find a number line or a letter.
I wonder if on occasion they don't put anything at all?

Once again, thanks for your help, Cyn.

Reese · 04-08-2004, 05:39 AM

I have a star wars shadows of the empire action figure, It's Leia but the package is for chewie. I thought it was pretty cool but i don't think it was worth much. It'd still hold onto it for a while

04-07-2004, 04:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	book publishing errors I recently read a hardback copy of Timothy Zahns' "Star Wars: Survivor's Quest" (a pretty good book, imo) and noticed that the cover was attached upside down. In other words, If you put it in a bookcase, with the spine to where you could read it, then opened it up to read from a page, the words would be upside down. I was wondering if a book like this would ever be considered a collectible, because of errors, or would it not be considered a "serious" enough genre to rate anything? Also, have any of you noticed any book errors of your own?

04-07-2004, 04:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	if it's a hardbound with dustjacket first printing, you may have something truly collectible. Otherwise, IMHO it's just something that is neat, and possibly you may find a buyer on Ebay if you marketed it right. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

04-07-2004, 05:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bill O'Rights will always be an Alyson Hanniganite Location: In the dust of the archives	It will also depend, in no small part, on the number of "defective" copies that are out there. If everyone that they printed is wrong, then...nothing. If they caught the error after, say...a couple of hundred, and of those only a few made it out of the door...then yeppers, you might have something. Just put it up somewhere, and let your great-grandkids worry about it. __________________ "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony "Hedonism with rules isn't hedonism at all, it's the Republican party." - JumpinJesus It is indisputable that true beauty lies within...but a nice rack sure doesn't hurt.

04-07-2004, 07:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	Yes, google is usually friendly. I can't find a number line or a letter. I wonder if on occasion they don't put anything at all? Once again, thanks for your help, Cyn. __________________ Google

04-08-2004, 05:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
Reese Delicious	I have a star wars shadows of the empire action figure, It's Leia but the package is for chewie. I thought it was pretty cool but i don't think it was worth much. It'd still hold onto it for a while __________________ “It is better to be rich and healthy than poor and sick” - Dave Barry